The difference between you and me madam is that you can quote stuff properly but I will be sober tomorrow afternoon.
Good day to you!
realPolithicks
Pesky wabbit..
Inquisitor
The Sunday Times has another angle to the Sunday Business Post story. Did other papers not have journalists covering the case? According to ABC circulation 60,000 copies of the Mail on Sunday were bought on average in the last audit (and about 30,000 per edition of Irish Daily Mail). If the Mail pull out of Ireland (it is currently looking for voluntary redundancies) where would those 60,000 go? To the Sunday Indo or to the Sunday Times?
Dub Spot
The bin.
Panty Christ
Angela Kerins being reintroduced into Irish society. RTE will complete with a full fluffy victim extract on prime time next week.
Praetorian.
See ya next Tuesday…despicable individual…with absolutely No shame.
You’re bang on the money…Turdbridy will no doubt host her in the next month…she’ll play the victim card.
this country boils my piss.
Chucky R. Law
I’m sure she’ll be happy to explain how she was worth every penny of her €350k package!
Giggidygoo
And the coffin business, aflannery ec. etc.
Catherine costelloe
You would think as CEO , Angela would be on top of her brief but she floundered like a fish out of water. Frank Flannery (FG) was involved in Chinese coffin flatpack disaster with Angela Kerins’s brother & these questions caused her much discomfort before PAC. It’s ironic she overdosed on pills & gin considering her head of Rehab ! The fact is she was a nurse but way out of her depth with 90 million budget of our money.
Frilly Keane
Shur’ you’ve a nurse heading the NCH
Via Tallaght
Via NCH – Mater site
Via James
Sum’ting like that
Btw I think Angela’s husband was also involved in the flat pack coffin enterprise.
Which demonstrates btw
A number of probity and conflicts that people turn a blind eye ta
Anyway
All that’s neither here nor there to me
She’s going to get her payday
My issue is why are we still talking about her in this sense
The real questions I want to see being the principal matter for debates
Is why Frank Flannery wasn’t held to the same scrutiny his Female replacement was?
Would PAC have they exceeded their remit if it was an ‘Alan’ Kerins
Would the _ úck
Lilly
Who goes to the trouble of mixing a G&T to overdose?
eoin
There’s a strong whiff of reputation laundering around alright.
Even if you accept she was treated unfairly at the public accounts committee, the fact is, she was one a huge salary of nearly €0.25m, received a raise during the austerity years and the charity was supported by tens of millions of taxpayer money. Those facts and similar concerns at the CRC led to a collapse in charitable donations in 2014.
Dub Spot
Tried to make her boss of rehab. See said more, more, more.
Will
That Star on Sunday headline is despicable.
Panty Christ
Outrages and genius
Spud
+-1!
Bet they had it ready to roll much earlier but maybe thought it’d be better if the poor lad recovered.
Joe
There are times when a headline, no matter how puntastic, should be put aside. Terribly poor form from The Star.
Catherine costelloe
The parents had to give permission . I’m sure the Star photographer doesn’t park in children’s ICU either.
Dub Spot
+1 Come on BS, why give this nasty rag the oxygen of publicity? It’s bad enough getting the oxygen of oxygen. Doesn’t deserve one pixel. Please drop it from future posts.
dan
By that logic you dump the Sunday World too, which is nothing but a PR rag for gangsters.
And then you need to dump the Sunday Independent which dines out on tragedy porn.
dylad
I heard the Cadburial is next Thursday.
Frilly Keane
Fogra … Lads serious announcement
I think I might be a bit Ctrl Alt
Definitely transitioning into a bitta’ve Alt sum’ting alright
I’m still coming to terms with the Change
So any help, ye know yerselves
Already ‘much appreciated
‘came here to the Papers
Since I’m pretty sure before I go to bed tomorrow
Clampers and a few others will have it all sorted out
Maybe even a Conversion Therapy Spa weekend thing, with links n’ stuff
Yep
Need to get a handle on it now
I was caught earlier reading Zappone’ Spirituality for Feminists
Aloud
I’ve reached rock bottom
eoin
Chin up there Frilly, your best years are ahead. Is it true the secret to happiness is in acknowledging and being grateful for what you have?
Dub Spot
As long as you don’t sign up for the Women’s Mini-Marathon (10K) you’ll make it on honesty alone. Peace.
So, was it Enda Kenny that was promising the sun, moon and stars to Facebook?
Dgg
The very simpleton
eoin
Just how close did the SBP come to caving in to DOB? The Sunday Times has new info
“It can also be revealed that representatives of O’Brien, the Post and Chubb, the newspaper’s insurance company, held talks on the third day of the court case to discuss settling the action. It is understood that O’Brien was seeking an apology and the payment of a low six-figure sum [he got €150,000 jury awarded damages in his case against the Daily Mail and Paul Drury in 2013]. Sources say there was a gap of €50,000 between what O’Brien wanted and what the Post would pay, so the trial continued.”
So, the SBP had libel insurance with Chubb. I wonder what the excess was and what legal costs are covered.
It seems like a very small difference, €50,000 in the context of proceedings that are estimated to have cost “in excess of €1m”. It’s hardly a big sum for Chubb, it’s a huge sum for the SBP which is living hand-to-mouth.
It’s a most peculiar case, on this occasion, DOB didn’t sue the journalists individually, in contrast to his previous form. The journalists, Tom Lyons and Ian Kehoe, turned up every day to defend their work even though both have left the SBP after Kilcullen took over; their performances would have been critical to the success of the defence. At least three of the 11 jurors were siding with DOB until the judge said he’d accept a majority verdict.
Frightening for the media in this country.
Johnny
Nice piece of damage control by the judge who appears to live in a very regal style,amazing how little information their is available on Judges in Ireland-its like a secret society.
‘Now Crosthwaite House is for sale through DNG for €2.275 million. Its owners, High Court judge Bernard Barton and his wife Anne Marie, who are on the board of multi-denominational charity the Military and Hospitaller Order of St Lazarus of Jerusalem, are downsizing now that their four children are grown.‘
What’s also somewhat frightening is not one hack or commentator has analyzed/discussed the judges “performance’,are they beyond reproach or criticism in Ireland ?
Here’s the judge who’s a member sorry knight of some truly funky,Catholic charity thats invite only,meets in secret and is impossible to find any financial info in,despite being a charity-only in Ireland….
The Sunday Times also notes the fact the SBP didn’t attack DOB’s reputation even though, in many peoples’ eyes, after the Moriarty Tribunal, he has no reputation
“the defendant had not challenged O’Brien’s reputation, although that was a defence available in law. “
eoin
Does anyone see the irony in DOB accusing Irish journalists of being malicious in publishing information that a jury has held to be in the public interest, while, at the same time, seeking millions in donations from the Irish taxpayer for his Front Line Defenders charity, a charity which claims it tries to protect journalists, press freedom and freedom of speech (I poo you not)
How sleazy is this government, it gives millions of our money to an organisation founded and chaired by the very same individual who spent three weeks in the high court falsely accusing journalists of malice and of fabricating stories. If the jury last week had found against Tom Lyons and Ian Kehoe, these two fine journalists would be facing a bleak future in their careers. Is DOB really going to walk into the sunset without there being any consequences for his charity.
Frilly Keane
Well
He’s not walking inta the sunset
Really
He’s got done for costs here
Costs that include Michael McDowell
Even after a trip through taxing
It’s still gonna hurt
I mean
The morta’ alone ….
He’s not going ta’ handle this well
I promise ye
Sum’tings brewing
Martco
hope you’re right about the hurt.
but to my sense of it there’s definitely a bang of something concocted about this case. almost as if it were a try before you buy demo.
a mill (and that’s if it even gets paid) to someone with access to all sorts of slush fund trickery is nothing, it won’t stop him upgrading the kitchen in his house next week now will it? in return he arguably he gets that chill effect weapon he’s been after for years now…like take me on and this is what’s involved lads, its all neatly documented now.
for me it’s about as believable as a Kerins cash bestseller.
Giggidygoo
It’s a FG government. The leaders in sleaziness.
Frilly Keane
I’d say they’re _hitting themselves
Seriously
Like
Their entire strategy is
“Smile for the Camera”
If that friendly environment is no longer available to @CampaignForLeo & the Gang
Well
It could be game over
They’d still have RTÉ I suppose
I’d say while they’re still in full Confidence n’ Supply comfort
They’ll keep throwing money at him since that’ll cost them nathin’
Shur’ tis only taxpayers money
Question
How d’ye reckon his weekend is going
Giggidygoo
I reckon his weekend is being spent reading over Barnier and Merkel’ instructions, and trying to have his spin unit (they’re not gone away) write something for him to announce over the next week.
In the meantime, Theresa May looks to have backed the EU into a corner and they’re going to have to re-write the ‘proposed backstop’ into some kind of face-saving waffle (for us poebs), but re-writing the bullet-proof, cast iron ‘agreement’ which was never agreed, into another Irish sell-out.
bigx
Should we assume you have forgotten or just willfully ignored the sleaze that was and is F.F.
Do the names De Valera, Haughey,Ahern ,Lawlor ,Burke.Flynn mean nothing in your little world or in trumpian fashion are they your heroes.
jusayinlike
digress and deflect from fg incompetence.
try harder..
Lilly
No one’s arguing with that. Throw Labour in too. FFGL.
gringo
Ok ,so we have the lies from the Brit papers, now can we have the lies from the Irish papers?
speaking of church-based tracks, I just came across this odd-ball, but kinda great, psychedelic-Catholic-synth-folk-70s-obscurity performed by a nun. Give me Sister Irene O’Connor over Hozier any day! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEOXg92gwl4
f_lawless
‘Last American Vagabond’ podcast – ” US Threatens Ireland Over Israel Boycott & Netanyahu’s Slide Towards ‘Jewish Fascism’ ” (An American political commentator’s perspective on the sinister influence Israel has over the US political class)
Ah! Brand new day. Brand new argument.
Sort of…
The difference between you and me madam is that you can quote stuff properly but I will be sober tomorrow afternoon.
Good day to you!
Pesky wabbit..
The Sunday Times has another angle to the Sunday Business Post story. Did other papers not have journalists covering the case? According to ABC circulation 60,000 copies of the Mail on Sunday were bought on average in the last audit (and about 30,000 per edition of Irish Daily Mail). If the Mail pull out of Ireland (it is currently looking for voluntary redundancies) where would those 60,000 go? To the Sunday Indo or to the Sunday Times?
The bin.
Angela Kerins being reintroduced into Irish society. RTE will complete with a full fluffy victim extract on prime time next week.
See ya next Tuesday…despicable individual…with absolutely No shame.
You’re bang on the money…Turdbridy will no doubt host her in the next month…she’ll play the victim card.
this country boils my piss.
I’m sure she’ll be happy to explain how she was worth every penny of her €350k package!
And the coffin business, aflannery ec. etc.
You would think as CEO , Angela would be on top of her brief but she floundered like a fish out of water. Frank Flannery (FG) was involved in Chinese coffin flatpack disaster with Angela Kerins’s brother & these questions caused her much discomfort before PAC. It’s ironic she overdosed on pills & gin considering her head of Rehab ! The fact is she was a nurse but way out of her depth with 90 million budget of our money.
Shur’ you’ve a nurse heading the NCH
Via Tallaght
Via NCH – Mater site
Via James
Sum’ting like that
Btw I think Angela’s husband was also involved in the flat pack coffin enterprise.
Which demonstrates btw
A number of probity and conflicts that people turn a blind eye ta
Anyway
All that’s neither here nor there to me
She’s going to get her payday
My issue is why are we still talking about her in this sense
The real questions I want to see being the principal matter for debates
Is why Frank Flannery wasn’t held to the same scrutiny his Female replacement was?
Would PAC have they exceeded their remit if it was an ‘Alan’ Kerins
Would the _ úck
Who goes to the trouble of mixing a G&T to overdose?
There’s a strong whiff of reputation laundering around alright.
Here’s the full Mail On Sunday story
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/my-suicide-attempt-after-pac-mauling-–-angela-kerins-reveals-harrowing-ordeal-in-explosive-new-book/ar-BBUj3RN
Even if you accept she was treated unfairly at the public accounts committee, the fact is, she was one a huge salary of nearly €0.25m, received a raise during the austerity years and the charity was supported by tens of millions of taxpayer money. Those facts and similar concerns at the CRC led to a collapse in charitable donations in 2014.
Tried to make her boss of rehab. See said more, more, more.
That Star on Sunday headline is despicable.
Outrages and genius
+-1!
Bet they had it ready to roll much earlier but maybe thought it’d be better if the poor lad recovered.
There are times when a headline, no matter how puntastic, should be put aside. Terribly poor form from The Star.
The parents had to give permission . I’m sure the Star photographer doesn’t park in children’s ICU either.
+1 Come on BS, why give this nasty rag the oxygen of publicity? It’s bad enough getting the oxygen of oxygen. Doesn’t deserve one pixel. Please drop it from future posts.
By that logic you dump the Sunday World too, which is nothing but a PR rag for gangsters.
And then you need to dump the Sunday Independent which dines out on tragedy porn.
I heard the Cadburial is next Thursday.
Fogra … Lads serious announcement
I think I might be a bit Ctrl Alt
Definitely transitioning into a bitta’ve Alt sum’ting alright
I’m still coming to terms with the Change
So any help, ye know yerselves
Already ‘much appreciated
‘came here to the Papers
Since I’m pretty sure before I go to bed tomorrow
Clampers and a few others will have it all sorted out
Maybe even a Conversion Therapy Spa weekend thing, with links n’ stuff
Yep
Need to get a handle on it now
I was caught earlier reading Zappone’ Spirituality for Feminists
Aloud
I’ve reached rock bottom
Chin up there Frilly, your best years are ahead. Is it true the secret to happiness is in acknowledging and being grateful for what you have?
As long as you don’t sign up for the Women’s Mini-Marathon (10K) you’ll make it on honesty alone. Peace.
If you pay money to read a redtop, you aren’t helping.
Why are paper headlines leading cultural debate?
…I’m going back to my UFC stream
For all you people still trying to find your way to the party, I’m at that party right now!
https://youtu.be/TqXQjvhwke4?list=PLSfdZtdO6G9ws4VkLaIqb35-Z5RIWEsSM
Elle m’a pas appelée
Ne passe pas ta vie à attendre d’être appelé
now look what you’ve made me do
que?
The neeeeeckkkk a YEW!
que?
busted bro
So, was it Enda Kenny that was promising the sun, moon and stars to Facebook?
The very simpleton
Just how close did the SBP come to caving in to DOB? The Sunday Times has new info
“It can also be revealed that representatives of O’Brien, the Post and Chubb, the newspaper’s insurance company, held talks on the third day of the court case to discuss settling the action. It is understood that O’Brien was seeking an apology and the payment of a low six-figure sum [he got €150,000 jury awarded damages in his case against the Daily Mail and Paul Drury in 2013]. Sources say there was a gap of €50,000 between what O’Brien wanted and what the Post would pay, so the trial continued.”
So, the SBP had libel insurance with Chubb. I wonder what the excess was and what legal costs are covered.
It seems like a very small difference, €50,000 in the context of proceedings that are estimated to have cost “in excess of €1m”. It’s hardly a big sum for Chubb, it’s a huge sum for the SBP which is living hand-to-mouth.
It’s a most peculiar case, on this occasion, DOB didn’t sue the journalists individually, in contrast to his previous form. The journalists, Tom Lyons and Ian Kehoe, turned up every day to defend their work even though both have left the SBP after Kilcullen took over; their performances would have been critical to the success of the defence. At least three of the 11 jurors were siding with DOB until the judge said he’d accept a majority verdict.
Frightening for the media in this country.
Nice piece of damage control by the judge who appears to live in a very regal style,amazing how little information their is available on Judges in Ireland-its like a secret society.
‘Now Crosthwaite House is for sale through DNG for €2.275 million. Its owners, High Court judge Bernard Barton and his wife Anne Marie, who are on the board of multi-denominational charity the Military and Hospitaller Order of St Lazarus of Jerusalem, are downsizing now that their four children are grown.‘
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/the-ultimate-victorian-on-elegant-dún-laoghaire-park-for-2-275m-1.3471509
What’s also somewhat frightening is not one hack or commentator has analyzed/discussed the judges “performance’,are they beyond reproach or criticism in Ireland ?
Here’s the judge who’s a member sorry knight of some truly funky,Catholic charity thats invite only,meets in secret and is impossible to find any financial info in,despite being a charity-only in Ireland….
https://www.st-lazarus.net/en/events-news/events/15-news/members/89-ireland-h-e-the-chev-bernard-j-barton-appointed-as-judge-of-the-high-court
The Sunday Times also notes the fact the SBP didn’t attack DOB’s reputation even though, in many peoples’ eyes, after the Moriarty Tribunal, he has no reputation
“the defendant had not challenged O’Brien’s reputation, although that was a defence available in law. “
Does anyone see the irony in DOB accusing Irish journalists of being malicious in publishing information that a jury has held to be in the public interest, while, at the same time, seeking millions in donations from the Irish taxpayer for his Front Line Defenders charity, a charity which claims it tries to protect journalists, press freedom and freedom of speech (I poo you not)
https://www.frontlinedefenders.org/en/right/freedom-expression
How sleazy is this government, it gives millions of our money to an organisation founded and chaired by the very same individual who spent three weeks in the high court falsely accusing journalists of malice and of fabricating stories. If the jury last week had found against Tom Lyons and Ian Kehoe, these two fine journalists would be facing a bleak future in their careers. Is DOB really going to walk into the sunset without there being any consequences for his charity.
Well
He’s not walking inta the sunset
Really
He’s got done for costs here
Costs that include Michael McDowell
Even after a trip through taxing
It’s still gonna hurt
I mean
The morta’ alone ….
He’s not going ta’ handle this well
I promise ye
Sum’tings brewing
hope you’re right about the hurt.
but to my sense of it there’s definitely a bang of something concocted about this case. almost as if it were a try before you buy demo.
a mill (and that’s if it even gets paid) to someone with access to all sorts of slush fund trickery is nothing, it won’t stop him upgrading the kitchen in his house next week now will it? in return he arguably he gets that chill effect weapon he’s been after for years now…like take me on and this is what’s involved lads, its all neatly documented now.
for me it’s about as believable as a Kerins cash bestseller.
It’s a FG government. The leaders in sleaziness.
I’d say they’re _hitting themselves
Seriously
Like
Their entire strategy is
“Smile for the Camera”
If that friendly environment is no longer available to @CampaignForLeo & the Gang
Well
It could be game over
They’d still have RTÉ I suppose
I’d say while they’re still in full Confidence n’ Supply comfort
They’ll keep throwing money at him since that’ll cost them nathin’
Shur’ tis only taxpayers money
Question
How d’ye reckon his weekend is going
I reckon his weekend is being spent reading over Barnier and Merkel’ instructions, and trying to have his spin unit (they’re not gone away) write something for him to announce over the next week.
In the meantime, Theresa May looks to have backed the EU into a corner and they’re going to have to re-write the ‘proposed backstop’ into some kind of face-saving waffle (for us poebs), but re-writing the bullet-proof, cast iron ‘agreement’ which was never agreed, into another Irish sell-out.
Should we assume you have forgotten or just willfully ignored the sleaze that was and is F.F.
Do the names De Valera, Haughey,Ahern ,Lawlor ,Burke.Flynn mean nothing in your little world or in trumpian fashion are they your heroes.
digress and deflect from fg incompetence.
try harder..
No one’s arguing with that. Throw Labour in too. FFGL.
Ok ,so we have the lies from the Brit papers, now can we have the lies from the Irish papers?
– https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/hozier-wasteland-baby-album-review-tom-walker-leave-a-light-on-what-a-time-to-be-alive-a8799611.html
Hozier layers lacklustre pipe organ until the track sounds like a traditional church march to which the bride enters a disappointing wedding night.
What a time to be alive.
speaking of church-based tracks, I just came across this odd-ball, but kinda great, psychedelic-Catholic-synth-folk-70s-obscurity performed by a nun. Give me Sister Irene O’Connor over Hozier any day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEOXg92gwl4
‘Last American Vagabond’ podcast – ” US Threatens Ireland Over Israel Boycott & Netanyahu’s Slide Towards ‘Jewish Fascism’ ” (An American political commentator’s perspective on the sinister influence Israel has over the US political class)
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NIywN_YdMk