Impasse The Buck

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Simon Coveney (left) and Boris Johnson in Dublin in 2017

“Boris Johnson is outlining a very clear and firm position but it is a totally unreasonable position that the EU cannot facilitate and he must know that…”

“We all want to get a deal but, at the moment, nothing credible has come from the UK government in terms of alternatives to the backstop.”

Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney this morning.

Meanwhile…

British Transport Secretary Grant Shapps insisted Britain had made alternative proposals to replace the backstop, and it was wrong of Ireland and other EU countries to suggest otherwise.

“It’s just not true,” he said.

“So it’s a cover when they keep saying: ‘You are not putting forward ideas’- we are putting forward ideas”.

Johnson ‘totally unreasonable’ in backstop dispute – Coveney (RTÉ)

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21 thoughts on “Impasse The Buck

    1. martco

      just more chaotic guff, per design. it’s even making Coveney look good.

      there’s no way out of this folks

      the only horse in town is exit no deal & resultant shennanagians, upheaval, border control, violent reaction to same, leading to border poll & the question we will all eventually be threatened with – 32 counties

      per my crystal ball ;)

  1. GiggidyGoo

    So Boris met Merkel and Macron last week, and said that he had proposals to put in place as alternatives to the proposed backstop. It’s quite clear he hasn’t – he hasn’t produced anything workable yet, and has just rehashed what was proposed and rejected already – and has now taken the cowardly way out for himself. Sounds Batty, but there you go.

    1. Joe Small

      Its also very clear that Boris’ main negotiator David Frost has no proposals whatsoever to discuss at his meetings with the European Commission. He’s already focusing on what to talk about after a no-deal crash out on 31 October – in otherwards cobbling together a trade deal between the EU and the UK once Boris has won his overall majority.

  2. eoin

    Remember that time [four years ago] when Grant Shapps was forced to resign “in disgrace” in a bullying scandal?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/28/grant-shapps-resigns-over-bullying-scandal

    At the time, Shapps said “I cannot help but feel that the steady stream of those who raised smaller, more nuanced objections should have perhaps set alarm bells ringing sooner.”

    Perhaps time for Shapps to pick up on nuances here.

    Coveney says there *have* been proposals from the British side. It’s just “nothing credible has come from the UK government in terms of alternatives to the backstop.” Shapps response “[insisting] Britain had made alternative proposals to replace the backstop, and it was wrong of Ireland and other EU countries to suggest otherwise” overlooks the nuance. Perhaps something for Shapps to reflect on when he loses his job again in the next few weeks.

  3. Mr.Fart

    as much of a shambles as the brits are, theyre right on some of this. they are leaving the EU, theres a certain amount of things they shouldn’t have to adhere to. paying a 50 billion get out fee for one. the only thing in the way is the border in ireland, and thats easy to fix. just strike up an understanding with ireland in terms of allowing free(ish) passage over the border. like the common travel area thing, just do it similar to that. done. border issue fixed. as for trade deals, just make a deal with each individual trade partner country. theres 27 or whatever, get a load of lads workin on each seperate deal like months ago! itll take a lil while teething problems, but they’ll be fine in a few months. then we should take a leaf outta there page and leave the EU, they absolutely ravage us.

        1. dav

          “50 bil get out fee. its literally a fact.”
          Sigh, https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-divorce-bill/
          “The latest estimate for the size of the UK’s ‘divorce bill’ upon leaving the EU is £33 billion (€36 billion), assuming the UK departs on 31 October this year.
          This is based on calculations the UK and EU have agreed, although the final value may still change. ”
          “The calculations are an estimate of the UK’s commitments to the EU, valued according to a set of agreed principles. The bill is made up of:
          •The UK’s contribution to EU annual budgets up to 2020;
          •Payment of outstanding commitments; and
          •Financing liabilities up to the end of 2020.”

          1. Rob_G

            Maybe the ’50 billion’ thing refers to a historical exchange rate, before sterling started dropping like a stone.

    1. John G

      You don’t think they should have to pay a leaving fee. Who picks up the tab paying all the salaries and pensions of the former and current UK staff that work in EU Institutions then?

    2. Joe Small

      Firstly, its not €50 billion. Its not even £39 billion. Every month the UK stay in the EU, the bill shrinks and it refers to commitments they have already made as full EU members. Think of it as a friend who orders three courses in a restaurant and then leaves before dessert thinking he won’t have to pay for any of the meal.

      Secondly, trade deals are an EU competence. No EU member state signs a trade deal – the EU signs them on behalf of the EU as a whole and a pretty good job it does too, negotiating on behalf of 500 million people.

      Thirdly, your idea of Ireland leaving the EU is a bit silly. We’re an open international economy. Going back to our own currency and having to negotiate trade deals on our own with the UK and the US, for instance, would leave us in a very weak position. Our multinational sector are here because of our EU access. Many would leave quite quickly.

  4. eoin

    It’s all getting very “1984” in Airstrip One, sorry Britain.

    A majority of MPs in Parliament is opposed to the five week proroguing. They say Bojo is undermining democracy by not allowing representatives of the people to debate and pass laws.

    Bojo, in a classic example of doublespeak is now saying these MPs opposed to him are actually enemies of the people and are collaborating with the EU. While Bojo is trying his best to convince the EU he will really leave with a no-deal, these other MPs are undermining him, he says because they’re giving the EU hope there won’t be a crash-out no deal.

    And yesterday, a special adviser of the Chancellor no less was “frogmarched” out of Downing Street by police after being accused by an unelected adviser to Bojo of leaking information to rival and lying about it. The Chancellor was unaware of the matter until he heard from the media. Imagine Gardai frogmarching that wee Chris Donoghue lad out of Government Buildings and Simon Coveney not finding out until some randomer from RTE asked him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7409193/Leak-fury-No10-Dominic-Cummings-quizzes-former-aide-Operation-Yellowhammer-document.html

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