41 thoughts on “Mountjoyless

  1. RadAndSubtract

    I think people are realizing the Gardai don’t have anywhere near the manpower to enforce the restrictions, and our society has little or not social cohesion, consideration is seen as a weakness to most, so expect to see more flouting of the lockdown over the weekend

    1. Clampers Outside

      That’s not the Commissioner’s view though, who said we’ve been for the most part very cooperative :)

  2. some old queen

    I argued that there should be closures of schools and business well before they happened but health- mental and physical, does not stop just because there is a new virus on the scene.

    In comparison to other countries, for the most part, Irish citizens have complied with the guidelines so far so is this really necessary? As long as people are socially distancing then they will not be spreading it- unless we are not being told the full story of course. .

    1. realPolithicks

      “unless we are not being told the full story of course. .”

      There’s a conspiracy around every corner for you, isn’t there.

        1. Rob_G

          Well it’s all ‘strange’, of course.

          I’m just not sure where I see the scope for a conspiracy – cui bono?

          1. Clampers Outside

            Nope, me neither.

            What I do see is an “err on the side of caution” approach.

            – – – – – –

            It’s like wearing masks.

            You don’t need to know if a virus is airborne to decide masks are a good idea.
            A fact of not knowing whether a virus is airborne or not can be reason enough to warrant wearing a mask.

          2. ReproBertie

            The government want us to stay indoors so they can upgrade the birds from clockwork to solar power.

          3. some old queen

            My point is that it is so OTT that you can’t help but wonder if there is another LOGICAL explanation for it.

            What harm is a single person doing sitting reading a book in a park? The same carry-on is happening in England- police drones searching rural hillsides while tubes with little or no ventilation are still packed with people. Airports open and not even a check to see where the passengers have come from.

            There really is a bang of punching down with all of this.

          4. ReproBertie

            “What harm is a single person doing sitting reading a book in a park?”
            Which single person? If they can be out reading their book in the park why can’t we? Why not 5,000,000 single people sitting in a park reading books?

            People are ignoring the guidelines. This allows them to be enforced .It’s temporary and it’s not that big a deal.

          5. some old queen

            What harm is there in allowing people walk straight off a plane and head to wherever they choose is the real question.

        2. realPolithicks

          It is strange of course Bodger, but how could it not be given the current circumstances. I simply don’t see everything that happens as some sort of conspiracy. These are reasonable “temporary” measures introduced in an attempt to control an unprecedented viral outbreak. People are under enough stress as it is and we don’t need any additional “theories” thrown into the mix to worry people even more.

          1. realPolithicks

            I hear what you’re saying Bodger and it is very important that measures are “temporary” but I’m going to assume that they are temporary until I have an actual reason not to.

          2. f_lawless

            But in liberal democracies around the world there’s been a growing tendency for governments to use crisis conditions as a justification for claiming exceptional powers for themselves to the point where it’s becoming normalised. You could argue Ireland is following suit in this trend too.

            Who’s to say there won’t be a mutation of the virus at some point in the future? Could easily happen. Or a new virus? Will we be content for the Irish state to put us in an open-ended lockdown for, who knows, several months on end, every time a similar danger is identified? Will taxpayers be forced to bail out banks and pay unsecured bondholders again in the ensuing economic meltdown? Living in a perennial state of crisis or emergency whereby the constitution is routinely suspended cannot be seen as living in a free society..

            Just reading a related interview with Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben:
            https://non.copyriot.com/giorgio-agamben-normalising-the-state-of-exception-under-the-covid-19-epidemic/

          3. ReproBertie

            Do you really think the economy can handle this sort of shut down for long?

            Why is it that people leap to assume the worst about the future when it comes to “what if?” scenarios?

            Who’s to say this won’t end with a world more in tune with the needs of others and more willing to put the common good ahead of personal greed?

        3. Newname

          Video shows the change in obituary pages in bergamo before and after the virus hit.
          https://youtu.be/PFgq1oYo1N4
          Reaction back home seems about right to me, I want to see my friends and family protected from what has happened here

  3. Shayna

    Shayna visited Mountjoy when she was a kid. To see the back yard where James Connolly strapped to a chair was killed by the British. People need to go outside, but – come on?

        1. Paulus

          Trying to remember which of our politicians used to refer to themselves in the third person?

      1. V

        Like Micky Marbh / Stillorgan

        Or

        Gort Álainn / the lovely famine aka where the number 8 brings ya; Mayfield

    1. some old queen

      Once more for Jesus- how many additional people over the monthly average have died so far?

      1. Lilly

        You could ring The Irish Times and ask if there’s been a spike in death notices and if so, by how much.

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