Paul Murphy TD
One of the 1.5 million people in Ireland with underlying conditions?
The far-right think your lives don’t matter.
Those who can safely protest should join the protest against them on Saturday at 1pm at the GPO.
— Paul Murphy (@paulmurphy_TD) September 8, 2020
Hardcore.
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the far right?.. PMSL..
Paul Murphy? PMSL..
bogus asylum seekers … GTFO
First People Before Profit, then Ruth Copinger, now Paul Murphy.
I never realised that these people knew so little.
So disappointing.
[I suppose if you spend your life standing with a placard in your hand there isn’t much time leftover for knowledge acquisition/study.]
“Protect immuno-compromised people from the far-right’s mass-meetings… by organising mass-meetings of our own”
Did you read the tweet?
No. Does it explain how a mass meeting of socialists poses less of an epidemiological risk than a mass meeting of far-right activists of a similar size?
Presumably one would observer social distancing and related precautions (masks) and the other, wouldn’t.
While it’s heartening that they will probably wear masks, many of the recent protests (BLM, among others) did not seems especially socially-distanced.
hopefully Covid 19 is smart enough to know the difference between the two protests
Ignore the far Left and far Right. Opposite sides of the same coin.
what happened to a reasonable middle ground of common sense, civic duty and respect,
Honestly, on a lot of quarters of the internet, “centrism” seems to be a bad word.
I’ve even seen people who wouldn’t consider themselves “far” anything, the likes of Una Mulally for example, having a rant at centrists.
Surely the benefits of taking the best features from either side,which is what centrism is, and forming a compromise that is good the majority is apparent.
I suppose it’s indicative of an unwillingness to compromise on anything, which may be from being over saturated with US culture and internet culture.
Most of them don’t realise how centrist they are to be fair.
that’s a good point, I’m on a few forums, running, cooking, bitta gardening, ( I know the glamour never stops) and I can garantee you everytime comments go nuclear it’s generally Americans, I’m sorry but they seem unable to have any reasonable discussion without a whole load of drama, it’s as if being keyed up is normal, agressive, abrupt, personal, 9/10 it’s an American. I left a running group because every second post was about “carrying” when running, ffs much as I like a big guns who needs to be tooled up to go running ! Also you do see that becoming the norm, shouty shouty opinions.
I digressed a little, but basically I agree Harru
I fantasize that the next form of teenage rebellion will be shunning smartphones and social media! I’ll admire the hell out of them
I suppose achieving centrism is the challenge, i.e. is it too far right or left .
The Scandis seem to do it well, even if they are a little boring but maybe that’s what it takes.
I fear they will have forgotten how to live without it, talking to other germy humans ?!
The scandis, how I wish we operated more like them and sure you just have to know how to loosen them up ;) (They like drinking in their underwear)
Ha ha ha! Carrying guns while out running! It’s so crazy the way they live with guns. My God! Let’s hope they never forget to put the safety switch on.
I agree on the centrist idea. I’ve noticed that most of my friends are close to this, or just left of centre. They really don’t know or care much for the left and right wing tribalism going on in the USA. In a country as heavily armed as the US I would fear for gun violence close to election results.
you might shoot your self in the foot !
I’ll get my sweaty singlet…
Most people who call themselves centrists are generally to the right of the centre.
To call Paul Murphy far left and claim him to equivalent to people like the national Party illustrates this shift to the right. The actual far left are people further left than Paul Murphy and don’t receive any media attention and wouldn’t run for election to the Dáil.
The same thing happening in the US to a greater extreme. Trump and his supporters expressing very far right views while calling Joe Biden far left. No Democrat is far left least of all Biden.
the left has gone up in a puff of smoke, it hangs on in some countries, we aren’t one of them, neither is the US
Scandinavian model is good, but you lose a whole lot with it. The Irish mindset is more liberal, forgiving and accepting of mistakes or bad luck or non preparation. That does not really exist here. You fall, it’s your own fault, because the system has prepared for it. Deviate, and tough, pick yourself up.
Community spirit is even looked after with dugnad, a scheduled public meet up to do work on the locality, schools etc. This goes from five till seven with coffee and cake, twice, three times a year and you no longer have to speak to or acknowledge your neighbors beyond this.
Kids are looked after spectacularly well, the most amazing schools, activities and huge amounts of staff and resources. You hurt yourself or get sick, you will be treated within one or two hours, be it a specialist or just a plaster cast.
And yet, it’s quite soulless. It is automated society, loudness is not appreciated, we’ve been told to stop laughing in a pub. My friends come over once. Once. (12 euro pints are more the reason)
I feel safe here and looked after, I pay 38% tax but the only friends/acquaintances I’ve made here in eleven years are foreigners too.
Wish for it, but don’t give up what you have just yet, it may not be worth it.
I dunno, a little personal accountability would go a long way here,
I hear what your saying though but that warmth and understanding you miss here is not reflected in how the country is run so how sincere is it ?
Good point. Does a nanny state mean you as a person don’t have to look after anyone else or have a civic duty because you pay someone else to do it?
It’s about sacrifices and how you feel yourself I suppose, but a happy medium would be nice, in both countries.
I love how my neighbours will come and knock on my door if I leave the car lights on, or take delivery of post… small things. I have a friend whose neighbour regularly drops him in a brace of pheasant or flank of venison during shooting season. It’s the people that make living here worthwhile.
Centrism is a cop out. It’s the “very fine people on both sides” argument.
I’d say very ignorant and unbending on both sides,
I guess it’s how you visualise a middle ground, I see it as more of a base line of respect and communication from where you can educate people out of biased ignorance and knee jerk fear reactions
shouting people down just makes them more stubborn in their BS, ultimatums don’t work, but that’s were everything is going just people shouting at each other, it’s disfuntional
I guess what I’m trying to say is even when you know someone is wrong does just telling them you’re wrong ever get you anywhere ?
This is a nonsense, @Dasiy – very, very few people are either communists or far-right (be that libertarians or actual Nazis or whatever).
I’m sure that 90% of the people you know and get along with well would qualify as “centrists”.
Most people either lean to the left or the right without going to the extremes. It doesnt’ make them centrists – which in its current format is just another right wing construct anyway.
I guess we have a different definition of central, is everything to get hijacked by extremists ? ( I don’t mean you Daisy )
“Most people either lean to the left or the right without going to the extremes. It doesn’t’ make them centrists “ – I would have thought that this matches exactly the description of a ‘centrist’.
What is a centrist, then, if not the above?
…liberals, centrist, middle-of-the-road, whatever…really just people who don’t have an opinion on anything but criticise yours…
spoken like a true cynic but sadly and likely quiet true,
we live in a time of knee jerk shouting unresearched opinions and it’s never been so easy or encouraged.
how is it possible to be both a liberal, and at the same time not have an opinion on anything?
It seems to me that some people identify really strongly to some philosophy or other, and then get frustrated that they can’t pigeonhole everyone else as either one of ‘us’, or ‘them’.
that’s not how I read bisted’s comment, I’m not speaking for Bisted and maybe I’m wrong but I thought he was implying that however people label themselves it’s not particularly deep or sincere, that beliefs haven’t really been thought out, that the labels are lazy and superficial, so they aren’t really liberal for example, just like the sound of the word without examination
…the best definition of a liberal I’ve heard was as a student in England during the miners strike…you were left if you cared about the plight of the miners…right if you didn’t…and liberal if you cared only for the pit ponies…thankfully Bog-R, neither you nor I will ever be accused of putting ponies before people…
Rob might ;)
What an oddly specific choice of example to pigeonhole ca 60+ % of the electorate here…
…at a guess, you are including the current government parties in that 60percent…strange bedfellows maybe but definitely not centre…but here…the blueshirts are playing a stormer…to come a poor third and end up calling the tune…fairplay!
“Protect immuno-compromised people from the far-right’s mass-meetings… by organising mass-meetings of our own”
LMFAO
Far left and far right.
Two cheeks of the same butt
What “Workers” (because that is all we are; workers = cash cows) are they defending and what are they defending on behalf of LBTGQ+ABCDEF………..it seems like they collated a random number of recent protest headings and created a “mash-up” protest.
What are they defending for LGBT+ people? The rights that Gemma, the National Party, and the organisers of these protests would like to take away from them. Your mockery of them illustrates the need to stand up for their rights.
Here is an example of an LGBT+ issue that needs to be addressed:
“Irish National Gender Service now insists adult patients’ parents be present at assessments”
https://gcn.ie/irish-national-gender-service-trans-activist/
Are you gay george- or just one of those jackboots who demand gay people think in a certain way?
Wants vaccines for all.
Trial of the most promising vaccine stopped in the UK.
The patient got transverse myelitis!!!
Transverse myelitis is an inflammation of both sides of one section of the spinal cord. This neurological disorder often damages the insulating material covering nerve cell fibres (myelin). Transverse myelitis interrupts the messages that the spinal cord nerves send throughout the body.
yes John, and in your expert opinion, was the vaccine the cause of this illness?
They already had 2 prior delays with other unexplained complications.
Which the reason we need to test vaccines.
Which the reason we are testing vaccines.
I think Paul Murphy has run out of things to protest about
or at least to be seen as the Protester in Chief about
bit of a squeaky bum there on the 1st count in City West
less than 7% 1st preferences
could be in trouble if Sean Crowe takes a running mate
any available transfers after that will fancy Carly Bailey surely
IMO anyway
Predicting election results a few months after the formation of a government is more than a bit premature.
Hardly
Paul Murphy hasn’t enough of core support there in DSW to promise him any reelection comfort
He was 6784 votes short of reaching the quota in a 16 horse race there last time out
In other words 60% were transfers
He needs another Water Protest type profile
Mind you his TDs pension is now secured
+ V.
There should be no demonstrations till the virus is beaten.
take a 2 minute walk anywhere in the city and youll see no one is following guidelines at all. everyones given up.
Where are you in the city? The vast majority of people were wearing masks on public transport and in shops in Dublin yesterday. One luas I took was a bit ful,l but there was no staff to regulate access to keep the 2 metre distance and all bar 2 people were masked.
The ‘virus’ will never be beaten- its like the wind, it comes and goes – it is part of MOTHER NATURE.
It does not stop outside pubs which serve food or because someone is behind the till in a supermarket or because you are wearing the equivalent of your granny’s net curtains while concealing your face.
Superstitious voodoo nonsense to make YOU feel better does not change the hard science.
I hate when old friends fight…
https://twitter.com/LiberalLarry5/status/1220441372530028544
I think I actually hate this little rabble rousing silly. He really is the epitome of everything wrong with the Neo-Right (i.e. the ultra-left)
me too. He’s loving the development of a far right. it gives him purpose. He never really actually wants to achieve anything, he just wants to bluster and shout. I hate Varadkar, but when Varadkar was speaking in the Dail and saying there’s too much interupting going on, Murphy then interupted him, completely proving his point. And that’s the last thing ya want. Also he organises way too many marches, for way too many causes. It dilutes numbers and makes marches meaningless. Like marching for workers rights in a mine in Kyrgyzstan and stuff like that. He has no end goal. just to be a students union president for the rest of his days. If there was a whiff of getting in power he’d be gone. That”s why he keeps developing more an more smaller parties, because if they actually united they might get in power, and thats not what he wants.
Are the Left wing politicians still ignoring the Uiguir genocide in China? It’s funny how the left wing in a lot of countries are staying silent on this issue, it goes against their narrative of a communist country. Like communism was ever a good idea, under the USSR how many died during that period? 25 million or something crazy high. So the CCP are just doing what communist leadership has always done, which is force compliance, or prison, or death. Has Paul Murphy said anything about what is going on in China?
You would think after WW2, Rwanda, Bosnia/Serbia, Rohinga in Myanmar, the majority of people in politics would say never again, but apparently trade with China is more important. Cash!
More to the point- why are the oh so political Islamist in the west so silent on this issue?