Looks like a Biden win.
Until Trump drags it through the courts.
SOQ
“Networks don’t get to decide elections. Courts do.” – Rudy Giuliani
Legal challenges are underway and recounts are underway but, if on the off chance he is successful- all hell will break loose.
Nigel
Courts do not decide elections, voters do. Networks just report.
E'Matty
Tell that to Al Gore.
Nigel
Not forgotten, you can be sure.
SOQ
I suspect the MSM are pumping up the premature electulation in the hope that the judiciary will fold- except Trump predicted all of this last May- so pretty sure there was- and is- a plan in place.
Never underestimate your enemy- especially one who has so far confounded all critics.
Bodger
+ 1
Nigel
Premature? It’s not premature. What did he predict in May? What on earth gives you the impression that Trump has ever been a man with a plan? He doesn’t have a path to victory through the courts.
Nigel
Oh and his ‘plan’ was to sabotage the postal service and denigrate postal voting then have a big enough lead on election night to be declared winner – by the MSM – then stop the count through legal challenges. It was an awful plan and it didn’t work.
…unsolicited payments have been returned…they were only resting in those accounts…
GiggidyGoo
Michilín returned them alright. Kicking and screaming.
Has Regina repaid to the state, the money she got for her ‘promotion’ by, ahem, Varadkar? The Chief Whip allowance?
The pressure is building alright on Lieo. He has to go through it again, and worse, on Tuesday, with the added bonus this time of the names of those expressing confidence in him up there in lights for all to see.
I’ve heard on good authority, the horses mouth, that some FFers have been inundated with emails and phone calls warning them of a withdrawal of support for them and FF if they don’t man up and kick Varadkar out. Likewise, the grassroots FGers are lapping it up, watching him squirm.
I wonder if his da is pleased with the disgraceful conduct.
The eFFers won’t put a hair out of place Gigs
They’ll all follow the Govt Whip
Exceptions might
And I say MIGHT
Be the odd weak seat flirting with their local Sinn Fein Comhairle
Leo will sail through a Vote of No Confidence anyway
Most likely outcome is a suspension via the Ceann Comhairle’s office
Which Leo will accept
With spin around how it is important that the Government be allowed Govern instead of distractions about a few WhatsApps etc
From people who weren’t good people who he thought he could trust
Blah blah eeuwww and more blah
GiggidyGoo
Agree V. But this is weakening FF FG and the Greens. Once he survives the vote, then any state papers marked as ‘Confidential’ can be leaked knowing there’s a precedence. And the blame will lie with FFGr for it. They will have destroyed any semblance of honesty / integrity.
Best we can hope for is the introduction of a Fitness & Probity regime – finally
As rigorous and enforceable as the standards that I am held to
And mandatory induction and ongoing (annual) Ethics, Governance & AML training
At the moment the Minimum Compliance is far to low
Two years old
But still relevant – every word of it
Hard to ignore you when you’re first off the mark almost with a copy and paste comment yesterday and today.
Your posting is piddle poor these days. Let’s try keep that confidential between us though. ROFL! Confidential? ROFL. Guffaw in fact.
Cian
It’s actually the same post for the last three days. It was supposed to reflect the irony of their election results taking so long. But it went over your head.
GiggidyGoo
We know what it was. It was getting in an early comment, top of the page, to distract from our own politics and the disgusting manner that is has, yet again, been brought into disrepute.
I’m just wondering when you will realize your error of judgement in supporting Varadkar. I hope your explanation will be a bit more coherent than this….
…what…not a stock Broadsheet post to be inserted in your absence…like dav’s #thanksblushirts or Nigil’s #putain…
GiggidyGoo
What’s that Bisted? I wasn’t absent at all. Have a look.
Twitter is for twits. I’m not on it. Do you have hashtags for breakfast? Try hash browns.
Cian
LOL
Yeah, because otherwise nobody would have mentioned the US election.
GiggidyGoo
Lame Cian.
So, anyway, apart from copying and pasting the same comment twice once the front pages went up, are you any closer to admitting your error of judgement? At least Simon Harris had the sense to steer away from handing a confidential document to one of Varadkars mats. But as usual, Varadkar tried to bring someone down.
Happy to ignore Varadkar obviously, while waiting up for the De Papers the past three mornings so you can try divert to politics in another country by posting the exact same text in each post.
I posted relevant stuff on the US election before I went to bed.
GiggidyGoo
Yeah, yeah yeah. Exact same post three days in a row, just as De Papers appeared.
Here’s my comment regarding your error of judgement. As in your attempt to set the debate away from the politics that matter at home, three days in a row. You were so engrossed in it – so important – that you stayed miles away from any discussion on Varadkar.
“I’m just wondering when you will realize your error of judgement in supporting Varadkar. I hope your explanation will be a bit more coherent than this….
What I can’t understand though is why you nail your colours to the Varadkar mast, after what he had done. Or will you be a late developer, and ditch him eventually like his friends are doing? I hope you keep a record of SCU instructions (same way as you keep records of what people post here) for future reference.
Cian
GiggidyGoo you’re so funny.
Cian
@GiggidyGoo
Do you have a crush on Varadkar? You obsess about him. Its not healthy. Most of your posts are about him. Do you think he’s sexy? Is that it?
412 posts so far this year where you mention him. That’s an obsession.
Janet, dreams of a steamed clootie
that’s a very uncian like comment
Pat Mustard
That’s kinda creepy Cian.
GiggidyGoo
Actually it’s a very B9 -like comment, same as his earlier one above (‘oh you do care. Xxx’) It’s a run-away comment.
Maybe Cian has given up and another of the SCU Members is now operating his account.
Nice to know that as well as keeping history on what’s posted here, they’re also counting the frequency of words. ROFL. Sad boyos.
Leo’s lolly must have been upped to have the SCU Members working weekends. Not even time for a leak.
Roll on Tuesday
GiggidyGoo
@Pat Mustard.
It’s a simple process to scrape a website. The SCU Members can call in the services of a lowly IT nuru to do it. You can extract any information you define from the results of a scrape. (Cian thinks it’s something magic and that we should be wary of him and the boys – delusional)
Rosette of Sirius
There is a significant upside to all the recounts Trump will no doubt demand.
We get to watch him lose twice.
Marvelous.
#stopthesqueal
Cian
#stopthesequal more llike
SOQ
And that is the point now isn’t it?
Celebrating Trump losing rather than Biden winning. The same thing happened last time around too- except in reverse.
Cian
Well yes. Totally.
He is getting a taste if his own medicine.
not too many who vehemently oppose trump are overly enthused with biden (track record of racist comments, homophobia, fiscally conservative- and not to mention his own dubious past when it comes to sexual assault)
the big triumph here is getting rid of trump
millie
It really was a case of the lesser of two evils, wasn’t it?
Even Kamala Harris is far from perfect, though she’s been great for the optics of Biden’s campaign.
Brother Barnabas
sadly, yes
about as close to being a Republican as a Democrat can be
…only time will tell if it was the lesser of two evils…who would have thought that Trump would have been the least warmongering US President in the 21st century…
The idea that America is somehow going to be radically,socially and morally totally different from Trump with the election of a long-time Washington insider is laughable.
As all those white,college-educated protestors trashing inner cities in the name of downtrodden blacks will soon find out.
An unchanged Senate and more Republican seats in the House show this election is a triumph for Biden but a disaster for his party.
Biden’s main job at this stage is expectation management.
It’ll be fascinating to see how Trump reacts.
My guess is that with such a strong supporter base – the second highest popular vote ever in presidential elections after Biden – and with more Hispanics,blacks and women voting for him than in 2016 Trumpism is going to stick around for a while.
And, of course, Covid-19 isn’t going anywhere either.
The fun has only just begun.
millie
Tbf I don’t think anyone is that naive. America has been fundamentally changed by the past 4 years. Trump wasn’t the reason for this though. These divisions, the polarisation, it was already there, already happening. It just took a President like Trump to accelerate it to a boiling point. He is a deeply polarising individual, it’s no surprise that this is the result of his four years in office.
It’s going to take a lot more than a Biden/Harris win to repair the Divided States of America. I think most people are just glad Trump is gone.
Brother Barnabas
I doubt trump has the character or work ethic to stick around, plugging away in the background – no limelight, no acclaim – marshalling his support in preparation for another go in 2024
Brother Barnabas
because it’s not true, bisted – for one, his economic warfare against the likes of iran will inevitably lead to physical conflict (likely one among a multitude of sh1t storms he’s left for biden to deal with). and his true love is drone warfare, which he has escalated. but nobody knows by who much since he rescinded the rule requiring the CIA to reveal civilian casualties. we have no idea the extent of what went on under trump’s direction.
…you’ve told me several times I’m wrong Barabus…so just remind me which new actual wars he started…not just bombast and bluster wars…or economic wars, like he has threatened most of the world with…including the EU and Canada…
Brother Barnabas
“several times”
first time I’ve ever commented on it, actually, busted
a war monger isnt necessarily someone who initiates wars, it’s someone who sanctions / performs / instructs military action, which trump has done lots of (albeit he probably took scant interest in any of it)
…thanks for the definition of war monger Barabas…Trump didn’t seem to go in for the ‘shock and awe’ or ‘we came…we saw…he died’ style of his predecessors…did a lot of shouting and threatening…but didn’t start any new wars…not even proxy ones…so a lot of people are alive today who wouldn’t if crooked Hillary hadn’t been rejected…
Brother Barnabas
“if crooked hilary hadn’t been rejected”
firstly, bisted, we’re not talking about her – we’re talking about trump’s predecessors as per your first comment
would prez hilary have led to lots and lots of deaths? I’d say for sure. she’s a nasty piece of work, no question there.
more than trump? nobody knows because he changed the law to ensure we couldnt find out – that alone gives ample grounds to at least suspect he’s hiding something
you interpreted warmongering as being limited to “starting wars” – hence the clarification
Charger Salmons
Trump is going to be back playing the Washington outsider.
When America starts footing the bill for free healthcare for illegal immigrants and police forces in Democrat-controlled cities like Portland start defunding the police to appease their Antifa street protestors watch the action begin.
The next four years are going to be great entertainment.
I can’t wait.
Nigel
Trump has assorted legal and financial issues awaiting him once he gets out from behind the shelter of the presidency and the GOP. Trumpism without Trump may not be a spent force, but it might be a force without focus. Most Trumpers don’t like the GOP any more than they like the Democrats. Four years of blocking everything from Biden isn’t going to endear them to anyone else. It’ll only take minor electoral reform to start the process of reducing the party to an irrelevence. Tough roads ahead for them, too.
Rosette of Sirius
Pretty much. I can only wish Trump one thing… may the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch….
The lack of leadership within the democrats and the lack of a credible candidate in the past two elections has been noted on here many times.
Still, nice to have a paddy in the whitehouse, eh?
Marvellous.
Hey charger, what kind of bet would you put on a pot calling a kettle black?
Heh, heh, heh.
Nigel
Who are you socialising with during a pandemic lockdown? Oh, right! Hope your haunted porcelain victorian doll friends have their own little hand embroidered face masks.
GiggidyGoo
Ooooohh Charger. Do, you know something? My life is quite dandy. A lot more than can be said for yours actually. I’m not holed up in a bedsit with piddle-soaked carpets, feasting on beans, drinking make-believe wine from plastic bottles with blue tops like yourself. And more to the point, I don’t have such a sad life as yourself who resorts to the likes of this… https://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209757
You’re a vile little man.
Papi
Ah, now, giggidy, that’s unfair. Charger is not little, and the obesity is not his fault, when you consider double chips, three battered sausages and twelve cans really eats into his dole money, especially twice a day.
SOQ
Well my point was that last time around, those who hated Clinton never gave too much thought to Trump- and the same thing has happened again.
The democrats ran a very poor campaign- it was theirs for the taking.
Johnny
…less hate, more love, more weed, nicely done RTE.
So hope for a great sea-change
On the far side of revenge.
Believe that a further shore
Is reachable from here.
Believe in miracles
And cures and healing wells.
The only time I’ve seen Biden act in anyway Presidential
Was the last few days
Asking for calm
Be patient
Etc
The only time – even since the primaries
That he was head and shoulders above it all
See his response to the BBC in the midst of a Press Crush
Even the networks were steaming and over-caffinated
Their verbiage was looping at such a rate twas like watching them saddled into human gyroscopes
But not Joe Biden
In fairness
Credit where credit is due like
Nigel
Seems to me they ran a bloody amazing campaign, during a pandemic, against an incumbent with a huge base that did not care at all about his flaws and his obviously disasttrous policies with the structural advantage of the EC on his side and a widespread campaign of open voter supression. Is there some reason we’re supposed to be allergic to acknowledging any of this?
…agree…the turnout was phenomenal…especially during a pandemic…both sides polled higher than any before in US history…both had learned from the previous election and got the vote out…Trump didn’t even need the Russians, in fact he increased his vote by millions…which some might say, he won the last election despite the Russians…
Nigel
There were so many factors at work during that election, I expect small armies of historians and analysts will be driven to mental breakdowns trying to sort it out.
They won against an incumbent which almost never happens.
Nigel
Recounts cost. Legal challenges cost. Trump’s a miser and his campaign is broke becuase he’s a crook surrounded by crooks. There’ll be a lot of noise, not much heat.
Rosette of Sirius
Well, the next step will be to continue to grift his base to pay for it. It’s a futile act of course. None of his major funders will stump up – they know better. The grift will continue.
Nigel
He’ll try to squeeze his supporters dry, which is one of the sadder aspects of this.
…the fundamental christian cohort of Trump’s base have been squeezed dry by their pastors for decades…I don’t think they’ll be too pleased if a powerless Trump tries to muscle in on their honeypot…
Chuckenstein
Surely ‘Hey Joe’ was there to be plucked by The Observer
SOQ
Love this- it’s from my late teenage years- 30-40.
an illustrative lesson in be careful what you wish for – would have kenny back in a heartbeat
Charger Salmons
I always thought very highly of Kenny.
Not a grand-stander.
Worked behind the scenes for consensus when he could.
He would have handled Brexit totally differently – he knew Anglo-Irish cooperation was far more important than strutting the stage like Varadkar.
Probably the last Taoiseach to have some principles.
Likes a drink too.
Charger Salmons
A wonderful story of hope and resilience in the Sunday Indo.
will he, will Ganley,will he get the license….in my opinion no.
….in his own words the US play explained,kinda:)
“One challenge Rivada has faced in getting its story out is that the influence of big-money lobbyists is just the water in which Washingtonians swim. When 19 senators sign a letter against nationalization — a measure opposed by multibillion-dollar multinationals — in a matter of hours, and introduce legislation opposing it within days, that’s business as usual. No one can see the strings. But a story about a entrepreneurial company with a big idea is somehow easy to recast as something nefarious, given enough PR pros and money.”
Jamaica is what interests me,the govt is seriously considering Rivada’s proposal, which would be a template for Carib and finally killing on the walking dead,Digicel.
Johnny
NJ voters have now approved selling, growing and possessing cannabis.
The state has to seat a board that will oversee licenses,you apply, if you “qualify”, then you open, about 12-18 months from vote to open.
It’s normally a points based system,being Irish does not qualify you as a minority nor do you get ‘immigrant” points, so you wash the irish white guys reps by hiring a load x cons/immigrants/minorities…no that does not work either-you do a Dennis,we set up a small college to satisfy social equity requirements, we tried joint ventures or financing those lucky minorities who have ‘won’ licenses, its like trying do a deal with a fat kid who won the golden ticket to the candy factory…..
“Houenou has worked on expungement reform while in Murphy’s office and cannabis reform with the ACLU-NJ, Murphy said. That organization has proved a leader in the fight to legalize marijuana, and focused its efforts ending the disproportionate arrests of Black people for marijuana possession.”
Can any of the Qanon supporters confirm that the Four Seasons Total Landscaping press conference was a secret sign? It was held next to a sex shop, but there’s a couple of nearby restaurants and one of them probably sells pizza.
Papi
Landscaping is similar to landslide electoral victory.
Four seasons is a type of pizza.
Parking lot is where you park your “car”
The plot thickens and all will be revealed.
Bodger knows.
Tony
Trust the plan
A storm is coming
Black eagle flies east at dawn
A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind bat
Under the tree at Spar
Papi
Please hold for the FBI.
Rosette of Sirius
What a glorious mess that was. Word on the street is that’s gonna be the site for his presidential library/peep show.
Papi
I actually feel sorry for the secret service guys who’ll have to look after him after. They’re pulling straws like crazy, I’d say.
ce
Even better, there’s a Change.org petition to make it a national landmark:
A nice cuppa joe
Looks like a Biden win.
Until Trump drags it through the courts.
“Networks don’t get to decide elections. Courts do.” – Rudy Giuliani
Legal challenges are underway and recounts are underway but, if on the off chance he is successful- all hell will break loose.
Courts do not decide elections, voters do. Networks just report.
Tell that to Al Gore.
Not forgotten, you can be sure.
I suspect the MSM are pumping up the premature electulation in the hope that the judiciary will fold- except Trump predicted all of this last May- so pretty sure there was- and is- a plan in place.
Never underestimate your enemy- especially one who has so far confounded all critics.
+ 1
Premature? It’s not premature. What did he predict in May? What on earth gives you the impression that Trump has ever been a man with a plan? He doesn’t have a path to victory through the courts.
Oh and his ‘plan’ was to sabotage the postal service and denigrate postal voting then have a big enough lead on election night to be declared winner – by the MSM – then stop the count through legal challenges. It was an awful plan and it didn’t work.
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/11/06/saturdays-papers-58/#comment-2262492
You’re hardly going to copy the same comment daily, and be in early with it are you Cian?
It won’t deflect from Tuesday’s vote of no confidence in Varadkar.
Oh you do care!
Xxxx
(Or you’re stalking me).
What about the Shinners stealing money up north?
…unsolicited payments have been returned…they were only resting in those accounts…
Michilín returned them alright. Kicking and screaming.
Has Regina repaid to the state, the money she got for her ‘promotion’ by, ahem, Varadkar? The Chief Whip allowance?
The pressure is building alright on Lieo. He has to go through it again, and worse, on Tuesday, with the added bonus this time of the names of those expressing confidence in him up there in lights for all to see.
I’ve heard on good authority, the horses mouth, that some FFers have been inundated with emails and phone calls warning them of a withdrawal of support for them and FF if they don’t man up and kick Varadkar out. Likewise, the grassroots FGers are lapping it up, watching him squirm.
I wonder if his da is pleased with the disgraceful conduct.
The eFFers won’t put a hair out of place Gigs
They’ll all follow the Govt Whip
Exceptions might
And I say MIGHT
Be the odd weak seat flirting with their local Sinn Fein Comhairle
Leo will sail through a Vote of No Confidence anyway
Most likely outcome is a suspension via the Ceann Comhairle’s office
Which Leo will accept
With spin around how it is important that the Government be allowed Govern instead of distractions about a few WhatsApps etc
From people who weren’t good people who he thought he could trust
Blah blah eeuwww and more blah
Agree V. But this is weakening FF FG and the Greens. Once he survives the vote, then any state papers marked as ‘Confidential’ can be leaked knowing there’s a precedence. And the blame will lie with FFGr for it. They will have destroyed any semblance of honesty / integrity.
Varadkar can’t hide behind doing it for the good of…whatever… because he has already confirmed in a text message that he understood his responsibilities, and signed a document to that effect. https://mobile.twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1325143533053857793/photo/1
Best we can hope for is the introduction of a Fitness & Probity regime – finally
As rigorous and enforceable as the standards that I am held to
And mandatory induction and ongoing (annual) Ethics, Governance & AML training
At the moment the Minimum Compliance is far to low
Two years old
But still relevant – every word of it
Understanding Conflict
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/understanding-conflict-vanessa-foran-
Hard to ignore you when you’re first off the mark almost with a copy and paste comment yesterday and today.
Your posting is piddle poor these days. Let’s try keep that confidential between us though. ROFL! Confidential? ROFL. Guffaw in fact.
It’s actually the same post for the last three days. It was supposed to reflect the irony of their election results taking so long. But it went over your head.
We know what it was. It was getting in an early comment, top of the page, to distract from our own politics and the disgusting manner that is has, yet again, been brought into disrepute.
I’m just wondering when you will realize your error of judgement in supporting Varadkar. I hope your explanation will be a bit more coherent than this….
https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1323705946477105154
…what…not a stock Broadsheet post to be inserted in your absence…like dav’s #thanksblushirts or Nigil’s #putain…
What’s that Bisted? I wasn’t absent at all. Have a look.
Twitter is for twits. I’m not on it. Do you have hashtags for breakfast? Try hash browns.
LOL
Yeah, because otherwise nobody would have mentioned the US election.
Lame Cian.
So, anyway, apart from copying and pasting the same comment twice once the front pages went up, are you any closer to admitting your error of judgement? At least Simon Harris had the sense to steer away from handing a confidential document to one of Varadkars mats. But as usual, Varadkar tried to bring someone down.
Tuesday beckons.
So it does. https://mobile.twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1325143533053857793
my error or judgement?
WTF
What are you blaming me for?
Happy to ignore Varadkar obviously, while waiting up for the De Papers the past three mornings so you can try divert to politics in another country by posting the exact same text in each post.
Here, set your watch for 2pm tomorrow. https://mobile.twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1325406661691977728
Enjoy
How on earth is that “an error of judgement”?
What planet are you on?
I posted relevant stuff on the US election before I went to bed.
Yeah, yeah yeah. Exact same post three days in a row, just as De Papers appeared.
Here’s my comment regarding your error of judgement. As in your attempt to set the debate away from the politics that matter at home, three days in a row. You were so engrossed in it – so important – that you stayed miles away from any discussion on Varadkar.
“I’m just wondering when you will realize your error of judgement in supporting Varadkar. I hope your explanation will be a bit more coherent than this….
https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1323705946477105154 “
Ah poor GG, do you miss being the first poster?
Did I upset you? Oh well.
Aaaannnnndddd the cop out begins.
What I can’t understand though is why you nail your colours to the Varadkar mast, after what he had done. Or will you be a late developer, and ditch him eventually like his friends are doing? I hope you keep a record of SCU instructions (same way as you keep records of what people post here) for future reference.
GiggidyGoo you’re so funny.
@GiggidyGoo
Do you have a crush on Varadkar? You obsess about him. Its not healthy. Most of your posts are about him. Do you think he’s sexy? Is that it?
412 posts so far this year where you mention him. That’s an obsession.
that’s a very uncian like comment
That’s kinda creepy Cian.
Actually it’s a very B9 -like comment, same as his earlier one above (‘oh you do care. Xxx’) It’s a run-away comment.
Maybe Cian has given up and another of the SCU Members is now operating his account.
Nice to know that as well as keeping history on what’s posted here, they’re also counting the frequency of words. ROFL. Sad boyos.
Leo’s lolly must have been upped to have the SCU Members working weekends. Not even time for a leak.
Roll on Tuesday
@Pat Mustard.
It’s a simple process to scrape a website. The SCU Members can call in the services of a lowly IT nuru to do it. You can extract any information you define from the results of a scrape. (Cian thinks it’s something magic and that we should be wary of him and the boys – delusional)
There is a significant upside to all the recounts Trump will no doubt demand.
We get to watch him lose twice.
Marvelous.
#stopthesqueal
#stopthesequal more llike
And that is the point now isn’t it?
Celebrating Trump losing rather than Biden winning. The same thing happened last time around too- except in reverse.
Well yes. Totally.
He is getting a taste if his own medicine.
This is John McCain concession speech to Obama back in 2008.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/05/john-mccain-concession-speech
absolutely it is, soq
not too many who vehemently oppose trump are overly enthused with biden (track record of racist comments, homophobia, fiscally conservative- and not to mention his own dubious past when it comes to sexual assault)
the big triumph here is getting rid of trump
It really was a case of the lesser of two evils, wasn’t it?
Even Kamala Harris is far from perfect, though she’s been great for the optics of Biden’s campaign.
sadly, yes
about as close to being a Republican as a Democrat can be
any port in a storm etc
…only time will tell if it was the lesser of two evils…who would have thought that Trump would have been the least warmongering US President in the 21st century…
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10?amp
The idea that America is somehow going to be radically,socially and morally totally different from Trump with the election of a long-time Washington insider is laughable.
As all those white,college-educated protestors trashing inner cities in the name of downtrodden blacks will soon find out.
An unchanged Senate and more Republican seats in the House show this election is a triumph for Biden but a disaster for his party.
Biden’s main job at this stage is expectation management.
It’ll be fascinating to see how Trump reacts.
My guess is that with such a strong supporter base – the second highest popular vote ever in presidential elections after Biden – and with more Hispanics,blacks and women voting for him than in 2016 Trumpism is going to stick around for a while.
And, of course, Covid-19 isn’t going anywhere either.
The fun has only just begun.
Tbf I don’t think anyone is that naive. America has been fundamentally changed by the past 4 years. Trump wasn’t the reason for this though. These divisions, the polarisation, it was already there, already happening. It just took a President like Trump to accelerate it to a boiling point. He is a deeply polarising individual, it’s no surprise that this is the result of his four years in office.
It’s going to take a lot more than a Biden/Harris win to repair the Divided States of America. I think most people are just glad Trump is gone.
I doubt trump has the character or work ethic to stick around, plugging away in the background – no limelight, no acclaim – marshalling his support in preparation for another go in 2024
because it’s not true, bisted – for one, his economic warfare against the likes of iran will inevitably lead to physical conflict (likely one among a multitude of sh1t storms he’s left for biden to deal with). and his true love is drone warfare, which he has escalated. but nobody knows by who much since he rescinded the rule requiring the CIA to reveal civilian casualties. we have no idea the extent of what went on under trump’s direction.
…you’ve told me several times I’m wrong Barabus…so just remind me which new actual wars he started…not just bombast and bluster wars…or economic wars, like he has threatened most of the world with…including the EU and Canada…
“several times”
first time I’ve ever commented on it, actually, busted
a war monger isnt necessarily someone who initiates wars, it’s someone who sanctions / performs / instructs military action, which trump has done lots of (albeit he probably took scant interest in any of it)
…thanks for the definition of war monger Barabas…Trump didn’t seem to go in for the ‘shock and awe’ or ‘we came…we saw…he died’ style of his predecessors…did a lot of shouting and threatening…but didn’t start any new wars…not even proxy ones…so a lot of people are alive today who wouldn’t if crooked Hillary hadn’t been rejected…
“if crooked hilary hadn’t been rejected”
firstly, bisted, we’re not talking about her – we’re talking about trump’s predecessors as per your first comment
would prez hilary have led to lots and lots of deaths? I’d say for sure. she’s a nasty piece of work, no question there.
more than trump? nobody knows because he changed the law to ensure we couldnt find out – that alone gives ample grounds to at least suspect he’s hiding something
you interpreted warmongering as being limited to “starting wars” – hence the clarification
Trump is going to be back playing the Washington outsider.
When America starts footing the bill for free healthcare for illegal immigrants and police forces in Democrat-controlled cities like Portland start defunding the police to appease their Antifa street protestors watch the action begin.
The next four years are going to be great entertainment.
I can’t wait.
Trump has assorted legal and financial issues awaiting him once he gets out from behind the shelter of the presidency and the GOP. Trumpism without Trump may not be a spent force, but it might be a force without focus. Most Trumpers don’t like the GOP any more than they like the Democrats. Four years of blocking everything from Biden isn’t going to endear them to anyone else. It’ll only take minor electoral reform to start the process of reducing the party to an irrelevence. Tough roads ahead for them, too.
Pretty much. I can only wish Trump one thing… may the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch….
Also, I got a giggle from this earlier…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XsoHAwuQ73g
The lack of leadership within the democrats and the lack of a credible candidate in the past two elections has been noted on here many times.
Still, nice to have a paddy in the whitehouse, eh?
Marvellous.
Has anyone heard from Charage at all?
” Has anyone heard from Charage at all? ”
This post aged well.
Heh,heh,heh.
HE’S BEHIND YOU, FRILLY
Ah bless
He’s gone back to the bookies maintaining that he placed an each way bet.
An each way bet would be on who, between you or Nigel, posts the most on here every day because you don’t have a social life.
Lousy odds though …
ヾ(*’Ｏ’*)/ヾ(*’Ｏ’*)/ヾ(*’Ｏ’*)/
skitting Gig
Hey charger, what kind of bet would you put on a pot calling a kettle black?
Heh, heh, heh.
Who are you socialising with during a pandemic lockdown? Oh, right! Hope your haunted porcelain victorian doll friends have their own little hand embroidered face masks.
Ooooohh Charger. Do, you know something? My life is quite dandy. A lot more than can be said for yours actually. I’m not holed up in a bedsit with piddle-soaked carpets, feasting on beans, drinking make-believe wine from plastic bottles with blue tops like yourself. And more to the point, I don’t have such a sad life as yourself who resorts to the likes of this… https://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209757
You’re a vile little man.
Ah, now, giggidy, that’s unfair. Charger is not little, and the obesity is not his fault, when you consider double chips, three battered sausages and twelve cans really eats into his dole money, especially twice a day.
Well my point was that last time around, those who hated Clinton never gave too much thought to Trump- and the same thing has happened again.
The democrats ran a very poor campaign- it was theirs for the taking.
…less hate, more love, more weed, nicely done RTE.
So hope for a great sea-change
On the far side of revenge.
Believe that a further shore
Is reachable from here.
Believe in miracles
And cures and healing wells.
— Seamus Heaney
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1325192497337950208?s=20
The only time I’ve seen Biden act in anyway Presidential
Was the last few days
Asking for calm
Be patient
Etc
The only time – even since the primaries
That he was head and shoulders above it all
See his response to the BBC in the midst of a Press Crush
Even the networks were steaming and over-caffinated
Their verbiage was looping at such a rate twas like watching them saddled into human gyroscopes
But not Joe Biden
In fairness
Credit where credit is due like
Seems to me they ran a bloody amazing campaign, during a pandemic, against an incumbent with a huge base that did not care at all about his flaws and his obviously disasttrous policies with the structural advantage of the EC on his side and a widespread campaign of open voter supression. Is there some reason we’re supposed to be allergic to acknowledging any of this?
…agree…the turnout was phenomenal…especially during a pandemic…both sides polled higher than any before in US history…both had learned from the previous election and got the vote out…Trump didn’t even need the Russians, in fact he increased his vote by millions…which some might say, he won the last election despite the Russians…
There were so many factors at work during that election, I expect small armies of historians and analysts will be driven to mental breakdowns trying to sort it out.
There is something ‘other world’ about Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQhi1754w7U
“It was there’s for the taking” ?!
They won against an incumbent which almost never happens.
Recounts cost. Legal challenges cost. Trump’s a miser and his campaign is broke becuase he’s a crook surrounded by crooks. There’ll be a lot of noise, not much heat.
Well, the next step will be to continue to grift his base to pay for it. It’s a futile act of course. None of his major funders will stump up – they know better. The grift will continue.
He’ll try to squeeze his supporters dry, which is one of the sadder aspects of this.
…the fundamental christian cohort of Trump’s base have been squeezed dry by their pastors for decades…I don’t think they’ll be too pleased if a powerless Trump tries to muscle in on their honeypot…
Surely ‘Hey Joe’ was there to be plucked by The Observer
Love this- it’s from my late teenage years- 30-40.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjPyI1c3oY
Lolololololololololololololol
Ahahahaahahahahahahhaaha
Lolol
Here’s an interesting little story. Fraud in an Irish broadcaster. Two arrested. Not much info yet but my money’s on RTÉ.
https://jrnl.ie/5259651
I heard it was the producers of the Angelus; passing off the same bongs over and over, but getting paid each time.
Ain’t gettin’ nuttin’ off that…
My money is on Communicorp! :)
Please god, let it be Joe Duffy
Lottie Ryan, stealing a living.
Straight to the Gardai
Heem – could be Virgin Media. They run a tight ship, and a plc so there’s zero tolerance.
But since RTÉ still haven’t presented 2019 Accounts
Maybe they’ve found a scapegoat
Best Irish media headline ever: https://twitter.com/ClareEcho/status/1325147348410904577
The Indo headlining their support for democracy.
Laugh a minute those guys.
In remembrance.
And thank you for our freedom.
https://youtu.be/I65O_rTpQMY
Well done to our Taoiseach for joining the commemorations north of the border.
https://twitter.com/DavidYoungPA/status/1325392536484147201
didnt the much maligned enda kenny start that ?
an illustrative lesson in be careful what you wish for – would have kenny back in a heartbeat
I always thought very highly of Kenny.
Not a grand-stander.
Worked behind the scenes for consensus when he could.
He would have handled Brexit totally differently – he knew Anglo-Irish cooperation was far more important than strutting the stage like Varadkar.
Probably the last Taoiseach to have some principles.
Likes a drink too.
A wonderful story of hope and resilience in the Sunday Indo.
https://m.independent.ie/life/to-russia-with-love-the-remarkable-story-of-a-mothers-determination-to-help-her-son-39698434.html
https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-suspended-munster-corruption-5259863-Nov2020/
Alleged corruption Munster gardai. Not just penalty points.
will he, will Ganley,will he get the license….in my opinion no.
….in his own words the US play explained,kinda:)
“One challenge Rivada has faced in getting its story out is that the influence of big-money lobbyists is just the water in which Washingtonians swim. When 19 senators sign a letter against nationalization — a measure opposed by multibillion-dollar multinationals — in a matter of hours, and introduce legislation opposing it within days, that’s business as usual. No one can see the strings. But a story about a entrepreneurial company with a big idea is somehow easy to recast as something nefarious, given enough PR pros and money.”
https://morningconsult.com/opinions/wireless-nationalization-and-the-big-lie/
ps-Declan killed irony.
if you have not and I really have not, followed this, here is a decent overview.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqxq7/washington-swamp-creatures-compete-for-multi-billion-dollar-5g-spectrum
Jamaica is what interests me,the govt is seriously considering Rivada’s proposal, which would be a template for Carib and finally killing on the walking dead,Digicel.
NJ voters have now approved selling, growing and possessing cannabis.
The state has to seat a board that will oversee licenses,you apply, if you “qualify”, then you open, about 12-18 months from vote to open.
It’s normally a points based system,being Irish does not qualify you as a minority nor do you get ‘immigrant” points, so you wash the irish white guys reps by hiring a load x cons/immigrants/minorities…no that does not work either-you do a Dennis,we set up a small college to satisfy social equity requirements, we tried joint ventures or financing those lucky minorities who have ‘won’ licenses, its like trying do a deal with a fat kid who won the golden ticket to the candy factory…..
“Houenou has worked on expungement reform while in Murphy’s office and cannabis reform with the ACLU-NJ, Murphy said. That organization has proved a leader in the fight to legalize marijuana, and focused its efforts ending the disproportionate arrests of Black people for marijuana possession.”
https://www.nj.com/marijuana/2020/11/legal-weed-now-approved-murphy-names-picks-for-commission-to-oversee-nj-marijuana-industry.html
Can any of the Qanon supporters confirm that the Four Seasons Total Landscaping press conference was a secret sign? It was held next to a sex shop, but there’s a couple of nearby restaurants and one of them probably sells pizza.
Landscaping is similar to landslide electoral victory.
Four seasons is a type of pizza.
Parking lot is where you park your “car”
The plot thickens and all will be revealed.
Bodger knows.
Trust the plan
A storm is coming
Black eagle flies east at dawn
A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind bat
Under the tree at Spar
Please hold for the FBI.
What a glorious mess that was. Word on the street is that’s gonna be the site for his presidential library/peep show.
I actually feel sorry for the secret service guys who’ll have to look after him after. They’re pulling straws like crazy, I’d say.
Even better, there’s a Change.org petition to make it a national landmark:
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-national-park-services-add-four-seasons-total-landscaping-to-the-national-register-of-historic-places?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_25724024_en-US%3A0&recruiter=627117215&recruited_by_id=58ced580-a793-11e6-86dc-59ac12a479e3&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi
For now, all I care
Is that it’s the ending Rudi Guliani’s career deserves
Whoever stitched it all up – nice one
Just for that
Rudi’s career epitaph
Lemme buy you a pint sometime
Q who afaic
Life has never been dull with Hunter Biden.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign