…oh dear Blighty…looks like back to the Blue Peter solution…remember…the one you agreed earlier…the Teresa May solution…maybe that was the plan all along…you really are slow learners though…
scottser
‘Oven ready’ I think they called it. ‘Easiest deal in history’ or somesuch. Now it’s ‘well, we have a deal but the EU won’t agree to it’. Tory logic – more leaks than a welsh allotment.
Paddy Murphy has warned of an “on slaught” of EU vessells entering Irish waters if Britain closes off to foreign trawlers. And our Naval service is so depleted we havent a hope of stopping it. Britain on the other hand ordered 5 new Naval vessells to protect its waters. EU negotiations on fishing “allow” UK 17% of their own fish;- blatant cheek from EU.
GiggidyGoo
Katie Salmons knows all. heh heh heh
ReproBertie
“our Naval service is so depleted we havent a hope of stopping it.”
We wouldn’t be stopping it. That’s part of being in the EU.
Kate
No, Bert….quotas will be abused….Mr Murphy complaints of two Naval vessells in dock as no staff to man them & the other two on their last legs. We should protest our seas or we could head into a disaster because of overfishing.
SOQ
If Rudy Giuliani is correct in his claim that a Michigan judge has ordered the forensic audit of 22 Dominion Voting Machines- that is quite big news. If anything untoward is found, a domino effect right through all the states which used them will occur.
It is anyone’s guess as to what happens but if the software provides the function to amend or alter votes, that in itself raises serious questions. Outside of a malfunction which should be corrected by the software house under Change Management procedures, why would you ever need to?
They only need to find one lad Voting on his dead mam’s polling card
To be allowed say Voting Fraud
Shur’ look at the state of that Count Centre there the other day
Who’s going to argue that their polling stations are any better
SOQ
As I read it, this is an audit of the voting machines, not the actual count. If there is anomalies found then the assumption would be that such is replicated across all machines until proved otherwise- which could escalate into a serious situation very quickly.
The use of the term ‘forensic’ in an IT context means that folders and files which have been deleted will be rebuilt, likewise any amendments made to databases etc. so they have a timeline of activity for the full 24 hours, or longer.
All they need is find enough evidence to cast doubt on the integrity of the software, which will then act as leverage for a wider investigation. Audits are what the Republicans have been pushing for all along.
Cian
These machines are only used to count the paper ballots.
Have there been any instances where a hand count has produced (substantially) different results?
SOQ
No idea- but is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?
Cian
“but is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?”
Fake news.
If you want to make a bald assertion you need to provide evidence.
SOQ
Is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?
Yes / No
Cian
No
goldenbrown
yup Cian, I reckon you might be right
this is exactly the angle I’d started to wonder about myself recently….he’s bonkers but seems far too assured right now for my liking
personally I reckon the whole show around him catching and going down (oh so briefly, lol) with C19 was an utter made-for-TV fabrication so his cabal are well capable of type kind of deception in my view
the show ain’t over yet
SOQ
Biden vote fraud claims hit ONE MILLION in five key states, independent investigator says
An independent human rights organisation has claimed that it has identified more than a million instances of potential fraud in five key states in the US Presidential election to support legal challenges to the presumptive victory for Joe Biden.
The Thomas More Society is about as independent as any other Christian fundamentalist groups out there when it comes to their political leanings.
paddy apathy
They count Jenna Ellis as one of their special counsel. Nuff said.
SOQ
Yeah fair point- I never looked at them.
Still it begs the question- what is an acceptable level of fraud?
Nigel
That’s not the querstion that comes to mind. The question is how much of this lying and disinformation does it take to undermine a democracy?
SOQ
For most people you can be certain that electoral fraud most definitely matters.
Rosette of Sirius
And it’s usually individualistic in nature so their prosecution is indeed bad news for them.
Nigel
Probably matter enough that lying about it on such a scale in order to overturn an election is a grave issue.
scottser
It’ll be a piece of cake for the deep state to ensure a clear audit result in biden’s favour. Trump knows too much about the worldwide pedo ring – the lizards want biden in and that’s that.
..That a Deep State lurks within and over the U.S. Government is now treated in establishment liberal circles as if it is some new right-wing conspiratorial concoction rather than what it is: a long-standing reality recognized long before Trump by political science scholarship, left-wing foreign policy critiques, and mainstream journalism
Nigel
Joe Biden winning kinda broke Greenwood.
Nigel
Greenwald.
Fanacht
Joe Biden’s victory is a baseless conspiracy.
Nigel
You’re a baseless conspiracy.
Fanacht
Somebody’s triggered.
The next few weeks will not go well for you.
Should be a lot of fun for the rest of us :)
ReproBertie
LOL!
43 more days of playing Whack-a-mole with ridiculous theories around voter fraud.
Fanacht
Here’s another one.
The best part about this show is when it’s over nobody will ever take these idiots seriously ever again.
ReproBertie
Nobody takes you seriously anyway so that won’t change in 43 days.
Is there anything in the world more likely to inspire confidence as something called a ‘Trump forensics team?’ Only if it’s directed by General Flynn!
Fanacht
Nigel sneers at facts.
It’s the only way he can justify his nonsense.
Nigel
Ah yes. They’ve been wrong about everything and provided no evidence to back up their enormous claims so far, but surely THIS.
Thing that did not happen: Trump presenting any evidence of voter fraud.
Thing that did happen: Trump personally contacting officials asking them to overturn the results of the election.
Thing peple furrowing their brows at ‘red flags’ and audits never seemed to notice happening: widespread efforts at voter supression by Republicans.
…does this type of gripping happen every election in the US Nigel…I’m asking you as an insider…at least…you were inside the pram last election…did you ever find those reds under the pram Nigel?
Nigel
No., This is off the scale.
Lots of things were found under the pram. None of it mattered, because it turns out it’s okay if you;re a Republican, and especially okay if you’re Trump.
…wha…last time you called me a Russia sympathiser and then a Chinese fan and now I’m a Republican/Trump supporter…not sure if I’ve gone up or down in your estimation…I’m definitely not the latter, but, in Trumps defense, at least he didn’t start any new wars…sleepy Joe can carry on where Obama left off…
Nigel
Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that, and while I definitely think you’re Putin-curious I’ve never said nothing to you about China.
Having said that, in Trump’s defense, you were always quick to turn a blind eye to his dronings and bombings.
Anyone watching His Dark Materials on BBC? It’s my not-so-guilty pleasure these days, because I can indulge in my unrequited love for Ruth Wilson l.
Nigel
Slowly working my way through season one – huge fan of the books, really like the series, just weirdly not in the mood for films or TV. But yeah, Ruth Wilson, eh?
millie bobby brownie
She’s marvellous.
The TV series is brilliant, and she is incredible as Mrs Coulter. I was very excited once I heard she was going to be in it. I’ve been a fan of her since her turn as Jane Eyre on BBC.
Rosette of Sirius
Absolutely adore Philip Pullman and have read all his books. His Dark Materials is a marvelous series of books and while I enjoyed the Golden Compass movie a few years back, the BBC series is a whole different level of awesome.
Now, I have to recommend his latest series – The Secret Commonwealth. The first book starts as a prequel to His Dark Materials and his second, Lyra is a young woman and studying in Oxford – the other side’s Oxford that is. Third in the series is in development.
Now, I have to strongly recommend the new series as audio books on Audible – they’re a special treat. Read by Michael Sheen, they’re wonderfully engaging, entertaining and that fellow can convey a tale…
So much for Harris sorting out the Gardai.
Right next to his boss” happy news picture n’all
Ruining it on her
I wonder who paid for the photo shoot.
Shur’ haven’t Fine Gael plenty PR and Press and Comms, lads, and Gurus in fairness
In house already
I’d say there were well sorted themselves
(◔‿◔)
…oh dear Blighty…looks like back to the Blue Peter solution…remember…the one you agreed earlier…the Teresa May solution…maybe that was the plan all along…you really are slow learners though…
‘Oven ready’ I think they called it. ‘Easiest deal in history’ or somesuch. Now it’s ‘well, we have a deal but the EU won’t agree to it’. Tory logic – more leaks than a welsh allotment.
…where is Broadsheets version of the Grand ‘Ol Duke of York this morning…never took Charger for a quisling…a whinging pom maybe…
Paddy Murphy has warned of an “on slaught” of EU vessells entering Irish waters if Britain closes off to foreign trawlers. And our Naval service is so depleted we havent a hope of stopping it. Britain on the other hand ordered 5 new Naval vessells to protect its waters. EU negotiations on fishing “allow” UK 17% of their own fish;- blatant cheek from EU.
Katie Salmons knows all. heh heh heh
“our Naval service is so depleted we havent a hope of stopping it.”
We wouldn’t be stopping it. That’s part of being in the EU.
No, Bert….quotas will be abused….Mr Murphy complaints of two Naval vessells in dock as no staff to man them & the other two on their last legs. We should protest our seas or we could head into a disaster because of overfishing.
If Rudy Giuliani is correct in his claim that a Michigan judge has ordered the forensic audit of 22 Dominion Voting Machines- that is quite big news. If anything untoward is found, a domino effect right through all the states which used them will occur.
It is anyone’s guess as to what happens but if the software provides the function to amend or alter votes, that in itself raises serious questions. Outside of a malfunction which should be corrected by the software house under Change Management procedures, why would you ever need to?
Mmmaybe. Washington Post report: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/01/swing-state-counties-that-used-dominion-voting-machines-mostly-voted-trump/ – “Swing-state counties that used Dominion voting machines mostly voted for Trump”
Trump *knows* the election was rigged.
Perhaps he was involved with rigging it (in his favoir) and either Biden beat him anyway, or rigged it too.
Either way, if Trump rigged it he can produce evidence of the fraud (even if that implicates Republicans) and try to stay in power.
True
They only need to find one lad Voting on his dead mam’s polling card
To be allowed say Voting Fraud
Shur’ look at the state of that Count Centre there the other day
Who’s going to argue that their polling stations are any better
As I read it, this is an audit of the voting machines, not the actual count. If there is anomalies found then the assumption would be that such is replicated across all machines until proved otherwise- which could escalate into a serious situation very quickly.
The use of the term ‘forensic’ in an IT context means that folders and files which have been deleted will be rebuilt, likewise any amendments made to databases etc. so they have a timeline of activity for the full 24 hours, or longer.
All they need is find enough evidence to cast doubt on the integrity of the software, which will then act as leverage for a wider investigation. Audits are what the Republicans have been pushing for all along.
These machines are only used to count the paper ballots.
Have there been any instances where a hand count has produced (substantially) different results?
No idea- but is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?
“but is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?”
Fake news.
If you want to make a bald assertion you need to provide evidence.
Is this not the county where 6000 votes were proven to have been flipped?
Yes / No
No
yup Cian, I reckon you might be right
this is exactly the angle I’d started to wonder about myself recently….he’s bonkers but seems far too assured right now for my liking
personally I reckon the whole show around him catching and going down (oh so briefly, lol) with C19 was an utter made-for-TV fabrication so his cabal are well capable of type kind of deception in my view
the show ain’t over yet
Biden vote fraud claims hit ONE MILLION in five key states, independent investigator says
An independent human rights organisation has claimed that it has identified more than a million instances of potential fraud in five key states in the US Presidential election to support legal challenges to the presumptive victory for Joe Biden.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1368787/joe-biden-election-2020-vote-fraud-donald-trump-latest-news
Independent?! Don’t make me laugh.
The Thomas More Society is about as independent as any other Christian fundamentalist groups out there when it comes to their political leanings.
They count Jenna Ellis as one of their special counsel. Nuff said.
Yeah fair point- I never looked at them.
Still it begs the question- what is an acceptable level of fraud?
That’s not the querstion that comes to mind. The question is how much of this lying and disinformation does it take to undermine a democracy?
For most people you can be certain that electoral fraud most definitely matters.
And it’s usually individualistic in nature so their prosecution is indeed bad news for them.
Probably matter enough that lying about it on such a scale in order to overturn an election is a grave issue.
It’ll be a piece of cake for the deep state to ensure a clear audit result in biden’s favour. Trump knows too much about the worldwide pedo ring – the lizards want biden in and that’s that.
Ah now
Be nice
Tisn’t easy for them
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1335261726577750016?s=19
Timely piece on the existence of the US Deep State by renowned journalist, Glen Greenwald. And no, not a mention of pedo rings nor lizard people.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/after-the-deep-state-sabotaged-his
“After the Deep State Sabotaged His Presidential Bid, Bernie Sanders Mocks Those Who Believe it Exists. ..
..That a Deep State lurks within and over the U.S. Government is now treated in establishment liberal circles as if it is some new right-wing conspiratorial concoction rather than what it is: a long-standing reality recognized long before Trump by political science scholarship, left-wing foreign policy critiques, and mainstream journalism
Joe Biden winning kinda broke Greenwood.
Greenwald.
Joe Biden’s victory is a baseless conspiracy.
You’re a baseless conspiracy.
Somebody’s triggered.
The next few weeks will not go well for you.
Should be a lot of fun for the rest of us :)
LOL!
43 more days of playing Whack-a-mole with ridiculous theories around voter fraud.
Here’s another one.
The best part about this show is when it’s over nobody will ever take these idiots seriously ever again.
Nobody takes you seriously anyway so that won’t change in 43 days.
Brace yourself Bertie…
BOOMs incoming
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2020/12/06/trump-forensics-team-in-antrim-county-courthouse-at-9am-cst-examining-machines-group-reportedly-directed-by-general-flynn/
Is there anything in the world more likely to inspire confidence as something called a ‘Trump forensics team?’ Only if it’s directed by General Flynn!
Nigel sneers at facts.
It’s the only way he can justify his nonsense.
Ah yes. They’ve been wrong about everything and provided no evidence to back up their enormous claims so far, but surely THIS.
Thing that did not happen: Trump presenting any evidence of voter fraud.
Thing that did happen: Trump personally contacting officials asking them to overturn the results of the election.
Thing peple furrowing their brows at ‘red flags’ and audits never seemed to notice happening: widespread efforts at voter supression by Republicans.
Non-transparent by force.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1335225504899739649
Game over.
critical thinking over, more like
Reublicans gettin mad that the stuff they say outside court isn’t treated as rock-solid truthful and accurate the way it’s spozed to be.
…does this type of gripping happen every election in the US Nigel…I’m asking you as an insider…at least…you were inside the pram last election…did you ever find those reds under the pram Nigel?
No., This is off the scale.
Lots of things were found under the pram. None of it mattered, because it turns out it’s okay if you;re a Republican, and especially okay if you’re Trump.
…wha…last time you called me a Russia sympathiser and then a Chinese fan and now I’m a Republican/Trump supporter…not sure if I’ve gone up or down in your estimation…I’m definitely not the latter, but, in Trumps defense, at least he didn’t start any new wars…sleepy Joe can carry on where Obama left off…
Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that, and while I definitely think you’re Putin-curious I’ve never said nothing to you about China.
Having said that, in Trump’s defense, you were always quick to turn a blind eye to his dronings and bombings.
…Putin-curious…I like it!
‘Lizards’? Deep state? https://www.thejc.com/culture/comedy/marlon-solomon-edinburgh-fringe-1.487285
Anyone watching His Dark Materials on BBC? It’s my not-so-guilty pleasure these days, because I can indulge in my unrequited love for Ruth Wilson l.
Slowly working my way through season one – huge fan of the books, really like the series, just weirdly not in the mood for films or TV. But yeah, Ruth Wilson, eh?
She’s marvellous.
The TV series is brilliant, and she is incredible as Mrs Coulter. I was very excited once I heard she was going to be in it. I’ve been a fan of her since her turn as Jane Eyre on BBC.
Absolutely adore Philip Pullman and have read all his books. His Dark Materials is a marvelous series of books and while I enjoyed the Golden Compass movie a few years back, the BBC series is a whole different level of awesome.
Now, I have to recommend his latest series – The Secret Commonwealth. The first book starts as a prequel to His Dark Materials and his second, Lyra is a young woman and studying in Oxford – the other side’s Oxford that is. Third in the series is in development.
Now, I have to strongly recommend the new series as audio books on Audible – they’re a special treat. Read by Michael Sheen, they’re wonderfully engaging, entertaining and that fellow can convey a tale…
Michael Sheen reading Philip Pullman is glorious