…right…so…NPHET underestimated the exponential growth in the last wave of Covid but eventually the government relented and declared a general lockdown…ish…the country is unlocked at a higher than expected new rate of disease but they are encouraging all the activity shown to contribute to spread while out the other side of the mouth telling people to be careful…already the trend in new cases is showing an upward move…now where did I leave that modeling 101…
…yep, new cases…new diagnoses of Covid-19…you know the trend where NPHET extrapolate the number of people requiring hospitalisation and pressures arising in other areas…
SOQ
That would be the PCR mainly false positive cases where even within those infected, 80% don’t have any symptoms and are not actually medical ‘cases’ at all?
Cian
what about the excess deaths? you conveniently ignore all those.
SOQ
Excess deaths which were not out of the envelope for any year in a five year period you mean?
Why do you keep doing this?
Do you not realise the harm you are doing?
Cian
haha. I could ask the same:
“Why do you keep doing this?
Do you not realise the harm you are doing?”
SOQ
No Cian- there are people out there who are genuinely frightened and I don’t mean lazy school teachers- and for what?
A dodgy PCR test churning out false positives and a virus that 4 out of 5 people don’t even know they had?
Now we have the mutant ninja CoVid-19 arriving apparently- complete bullpoo- all designed to keep people in a state of fear.
It travels faster apparently- faster than the one which was around six months before anyone knew is it?
…I’ve been asking this question of the pro-sickness brigade on Broadsheet…what motivates them…they know that when political expediency overrules public health advice the result has been predictable…in the face of all the evidence they continue with their daily dose of nonsense and even cloak it in pseudo-science and psychobabble…
Junkface
@SOQ
Jesus! Get a grip man. Teaching is a lot tougher than anyone appreciates, especially with teens. You still talk like the virus isn’t even dangerous, yesterday in Germany it killed 481. They are afraid of the hospitals being overrun. This is in a very well equipped Health care system.
Covid 19 is dangerous.
It is far more dangerous than the Flu.
Lockdowns are horrible, but have an effect at flattening the curve.
Vaccines are essential to getting us out of this mess, and they are developed to extremely high standards.
Cian
already the trend in new cases is showing an upward move…now where did I leave that modeling 101…
evidence of an “upward move”?
According to this our 7-day average quite stable (between 250 and 300) for last 14-18 days
…far be it from me to argue with you Cian when it comes to figures but I was sure that the daily count of new cases moved above 400 yesterday…I’m just looking at the decision to open restaurants and retail, to encourage people to ‘enjoy’ xmas…to even reduce the restrictions on care home visits…what could possibly go wrong…
Cian
@bisted
You need to be careful looking at a single day’s figures. Today figure is ‘down’ to 264.
That’s why a 7-day average is useful – it removes local peaks and troughs (although the risk is that it is slower to see actual trends).
We still need to be cautious and keep meeting people to a minimum (and wash hands, and wear masks, and social distance and eat lots of cheese.
…agree Cian…mostly…the moving average is the best measure and the trends will emerge…I do wash hands diligently… wear a mask and social distance…but I prefer my quinine with gin, rather than zinc…
…right…so…NPHET underestimated the exponential growth in the last wave of Covid but eventually the government relented and declared a general lockdown…ish…the country is unlocked at a higher than expected new rate of disease but they are encouraging all the activity shown to contribute to spread while out the other side of the mouth telling people to be careful…already the trend in new cases is showing an upward move…now where did I leave that modeling 101…
New cases eh?
…yep, new cases…new diagnoses of Covid-19…you know the trend where NPHET extrapolate the number of people requiring hospitalisation and pressures arising in other areas…
That would be the PCR mainly false positive cases where even within those infected, 80% don’t have any symptoms and are not actually medical ‘cases’ at all?
what about the excess deaths? you conveniently ignore all those.
Excess deaths which were not out of the envelope for any year in a five year period you mean?
Why do you keep doing this?
Do you not realise the harm you are doing?
haha. I could ask the same:
“Why do you keep doing this?
Do you not realise the harm you are doing?”
No Cian- there are people out there who are genuinely frightened and I don’t mean lazy school teachers- and for what?
A dodgy PCR test churning out false positives and a virus that 4 out of 5 people don’t even know they had?
Now we have the mutant ninja CoVid-19 arriving apparently- complete bullpoo- all designed to keep people in a state of fear.
It travels faster apparently- faster than the one which was around six months before anyone knew is it?
…I’ve been asking this question of the pro-sickness brigade on Broadsheet…what motivates them…they know that when political expediency overrules public health advice the result has been predictable…in the face of all the evidence they continue with their daily dose of nonsense and even cloak it in pseudo-science and psychobabble…
@SOQ
Jesus! Get a grip man. Teaching is a lot tougher than anyone appreciates, especially with teens. You still talk like the virus isn’t even dangerous, yesterday in Germany it killed 481. They are afraid of the hospitals being overrun. This is in a very well equipped Health care system.
Covid 19 is dangerous.
It is far more dangerous than the Flu.
Lockdowns are horrible, but have an effect at flattening the curve.
Vaccines are essential to getting us out of this mess, and they are developed to extremely high standards.
already the trend in new cases is showing an upward move…now where did I leave that modeling 101…
evidence of an “upward move”?
According to this our 7-day average quite stable (between 250 and 300) for last 14-18 days
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-10-01..latest&country=~IRL®ion=World&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=total_deaths_per_million&pickerSort=desc
…far be it from me to argue with you Cian when it comes to figures but I was sure that the daily count of new cases moved above 400 yesterday…I’m just looking at the decision to open restaurants and retail, to encourage people to ‘enjoy’ xmas…to even reduce the restrictions on care home visits…what could possibly go wrong…
@bisted
You need to be careful looking at a single day’s figures. Today figure is ‘down’ to 264.
That’s why a 7-day average is useful – it removes local peaks and troughs (although the risk is that it is slower to see actual trends).
We still need to be cautious and keep meeting people to a minimum (and wash hands, and wear masks, and social distance and eat lots of cheese.
…agree Cian…mostly…the moving average is the best measure and the trends will emerge…I do wash hands diligently… wear a mask and social distance…but I prefer my quinine with gin, rather than zinc…
Gold stars to you both.
Who’s a Good boy?
They are SO brave,
https://twitter.com/i/status/1337879910539399168
Pic. no. 6 looks like a modern-day John and Yoko