Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

This afternoon.

In statehouses across America, 538 electors will formally cast their votes for either Joe Biden or Donald Trump based on the popular votes in their states.

Biden and Harris are expected to receive 306 electoral votes, topping 232 for Trump. The electoral votes will then be counted at a special joint session of Congress on January 6. before Biden and Harris are inaugurated Jan. 20.

Vermont kicks off voting as first ballots cast in Monday’s Electoral College meetings – live updates (USA Today)

Meanwhile…

Part of a 22-page preliminary report compiled by a  7-member team from Allied Security Operations Group

“The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.”

This afternoon.

Lansing, Michigan, USA

A Michigan judge has decided that supporters of President Donald Trump may publicly release and discuss information they’ve collected from an analysis of voting machines and data in Antrim County…

…Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of the 13th Circuit Court had ordered “forensic imaging” of the Dominion Voting Systems voting tabulators and related software after Antrim County resident William Bailey filed a lawsuit that challenged the integrity of the election equipment, citing errors in how the county initially reported its unofficial results.

Antrim, Michigan Forensic Reports

Michigan judge allows release of report on Antrim County voting (The Detroit News)

39 thoughts on “Timing

        1. Cian

          Assuming no unfaithful electors, the vote throughout the day should look like this:
          After the 3 PM states: Trump leads 22 to 7
          After the 4 PM states: Trump leads 50 to 27
          After the 4.30 PM states: Trump leads 56 to 36
          After the 4.45 PM state: Trump leads 64 to 36
          After the 5 PM states: Biden leads 146 to 97
          After the 5.30 PM state: Biden leads 146 to 105
          After the 6 PM states: Biden leads 171 to 123
          After the 7 PM states: Biden leads 202 to 174
          After the ~7 PM states: Biden leads 240 to 229
          After the 8 PM states: Biden leads 240 to 232
          After the 8.30 PM state: Biden leads 247 to 232
          After the 9 PM state: Biden leads 302 to 232 and wins
          After the final 10 PM state: Biden leads 306 to 232

    1. newsjustin

      Yeah, but to accept that ‘68% error rate, one has to believe that this analysis is legit, that local and State governments either didn’t know about it or did know and accepted it, that their explanation is faulty, that the people doing this new analysis are in any way qualified to do it and are not, themselves, biased, Trumpist, losers.

      I’m guessing we’ll never ever see this “analysis” used in evidence in any actual court.

      Perhaps it may show up during a made-up hearing, Zoomed live to Parler, hosted by Kid Rock and with the Donald waving a print out of it from a moving train (The Freedom Train).

      1. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

        That’s what I’m trying to untie Justine

        The ‘Legit’ management of their elections

        when tis more like incompetent, shabby and impatient
        and none of it is beyond doubt
        or equal from one district to another
        one state to another
        different rules and regs all over the shop

        image this here
        that only citizens born within the County of Dublin being allowed to vote in its (three) Local elections
        and only employed persons can vote in Referendums, and must be Irish State Born
        and only members of a registered political party can vote in a General………..

        1. Cian

          Unlike Ireland were it is simple….
          – you need to be over 18 AND
          – you need to be registered AND
          So far, so simple

          wait, it get more complex. You must:
          – General elections: Be an Irish or British citizen.
          – Local elections : Live in the local electoral area.
          – Presidential elections: Be an Irish citizen
          – European elections: Be a citizen of the European Union
          – Referendum: Be an Irish citizen
          – Seanad election: Don’t even go there. One person can have 3 or more votes.

          1. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

            yes
            and all the exact same conditions in every constituency
            same with the conditions to qualify to be entered onto the Electorial Register
            All the same no matter where any one us goes in the State

            That’s not what they’ve got set up over in ‘Mericka

            In fact, the rules for a voter to qualify for a vote at all, even in the Presidential – which is National or Federal as they’d say
            In for example, the State of New York are very different to say Georgia

            Like how can Candidates themselves, any of them, square that off
            They’re all out on the canvas to get votes, yet knowingly canvas voters in one State that are treated differently in another – IN THE SAME ELECTION
            We the People my hole – a con from the day it was drawn up imo

            We the People are treated like a nuisance

          2. Cian

            There isn’t any EU-wide election similar to the US president, but the MEPs are comparable to the US Congress.

            The Irish rules to select a candidate, voting times and voting methods are very different to those in, say, Germany.. Each country decides how it is going to choose it’s MEPs.

          3. V AKA Frilly Keane

            But all Irish Voters
            Vote according to the same rules
            And their vote is cast exactly as every other person in all the polling stations throughout the Country
            And their votes are counted exactly the same way
            And under the same conditions
            No matter where the Count Centre
            Or who the Returning Officer is

            That doesn’t happen in the US
            Or even within any particular State
            What ever about local and other down-ticket election races
            Shurely be ta’ f:::
            It’s one National race
            For its Whitehouse FFS
            It’s very own Commander in Chief for all the States and their citizens should be under the same conditions
            No matter where that polling booth is

            Am awful lot has to said about Candidates accepting a Nomination to run knowing that not all the voters are at the same starting line

            Like I said
            This We the People is a load of tripe
            Which, btw
            The very day that was inscribed onto the document they allegedly hold so dear
            Only White men who owned property were considered as the Constituency of We the People

          4. Cian

            Okay, then I don’t understand your post.

            Can you give one real example of what differences exist between two areas within the same State for the presidential election please?

          5. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

            well now you’re asking me to do what Same’ok does and has all day to do it
            so that’s a no

            but its no secret that 8 and 9 hour queues in one district polling centre
            versus just walk on up in another within the same District happens

            That suggests an unequal level of resources being deployed
            or that some polling centres were rerouted etc

            and I think you got my point C!an
            One race was common to every Polling Centre
            and to ever Voter
            The Presidential one

            Yet not every polling centre and every voter was managed the same
            either the logistics of the voting process or the count
            or those the qualified to vote
            In the same race
            Not even the voting machines

            What say – that only Cork Women under 60, and Dublin Fellas under 75
            Galway home owners and fully paid up members of the IFA were only permitted to vote in the next Aras race?
            and all the other Citizens as long as they have no penalty points and their Telly Licence fee was paid?
            The Cork votes would be all cast in Neptune Stadium – so a long day for the girls from Bantry
            The Dublin Votes in every Police Station – except the part time ones
            the Galway Home Owners get to cast theirs in a tent in Ballybrit racecourse
            and the Farmers a show of hands at the Ploughing
            all the others get a postal vote via a three stars lotto envelope

            I know I’m being obnoxious
            but then, so are you

          6. Cian

            Tone down the hyperbole by about 20 notches. It makes you sound stupid and uninformed.

            You made false accusations that suggested that particular individuals were being targeted::
            “that only citizens born within the County of Dublin being allowed to vote in its (three) Local elections
            and only employed persons can vote in Referendums, and must be Irish State Born
            and only members of a registered political party can vote in a General

            Cork Women under 60, and Dublin Fellas under 75
            Galway home owners and fully paid up members of the IFA were only permitted to vote
            and all the other Citizens as long as they have no penalty points and their Telly Licence fee was paid?”

            when you actually are alluding to the disenfranchisement of communities by reducing the number of places to vote, thus increasing the amount of time needed to (queue to) vote.

            Yes, this is a problem in the USA. Yes this should be fixed.

          7. D'oh

            also don’t think you can compare the USA to other countries. Some states alone are larger that Ireland. At a non-federal level it’s almost like 50 different Countries.

          8. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

            Christ lads

            there was one race common to every voter in every polling station
            ONE

            therefore the conditions for qualifying for a vote, casting the vote, and then having that vote counted, should have been identical for all the 150,000.000 plus voters

            how many times do I need to make the point that its how that election was run and managed that was a cod
            – ok the Candidates and their campaigns didn’t help
            but how it was logistically run
            that one race
            across all the States, across all the Districts, Precincts and Polling stations,
            to the Count Centres
            Was shabby, inconsistent and prone to error

            That One race should have had the exact conditions for all the participants

            I’ll repeat my point – why the f::: didn’t the Candidates themselves ensure twas the same for everyone

          1. Cian

            I really don’t know what you are talking about.
            you linked to a 2-hour video, then said “2 + 3 + 5 = 10.674”

  1. ReproBertie

    The next line after the bit about the judge allowing the analysis to be released is – Erik Grill, an assistant attorney general representing Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, warned that the analysis is “inaccurate, incomplete and misleading.”

    The piece concludes: Members of the group involved in the forensic analysis in the county have previously made false statements and shared fake documents about the election, said Jake Rollow, spokesman for Benson. “It is disappointing, though not surprising, that the primary goal of this group is to continue spreading false information designed to erode the public’s confidence in the election,” Rollow said.

  2. Nigel

    Nothing in the report from the white-hat hackers that watched the entire fraud unfold in real time? I wonder what sort of incredibly compelling reasons there are for keeping that evidence under wraps?

  3. Rosette of Sirius

    Well that’s a wrap. Biden on 247 with only California and Hawaii left to vote. Wonder how the pity party and the alternative vote down Mar A Lago way is getting on….?!

  4. Sten

    Why is broadsheet publishing this lunatic fringe stuff? There’s no basis for it that I can see. It undermines completely BS’s legitimate journalism in my opinion.

  5. Fanacht

    Dual slates of electors in seven states

    Pennsylvania,
    Georgia
    Michigan
    Wisconsin
    Arizona
    Nevada
    New Mexico

    Guess who is in charge of opening and counting the Electoral College votes on January 6?

    Happy Christmas y’all.

    *Got popcorn?*

    1. ReproBertie

      Every time you post something that will prevent Biden taking office and it fails to materialise you just pop along and post another thing. The bang of desperation is unreal. Maybe it’s time to accept the reality?

      36 days.

        1. V AKA Frilly Keane

          Now now Fanny

          We’re all here hoping you’re right
          The fallout will too epic not to be

          Fingers crossed (◔‿◔)

          Btw,
          Anyone taking odds that Q is actually a Hunter Biden led/ directed & funded PAC

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