49 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Papers

  1. Bitnboxy

    Hmm, something tells me Darragh O’Brien’s ill-advised housing scheme is toast given the Examiner report. Whether he chooses to accept it or not, the scrapping of this nonsense is actually in his interest.

  2. Charger Salmons

    Charger’s Jab Jibber-Jabber™
    ( Clot’s Corner edition )

    846,644 people received their Covid-19 injections in the UK over the weekend including, I’m delighted to say, your humble correspondent and Lady Charger.
    Our local GP there and good chum of mine ( we opened the batting together for our cricket team ) was able to, ahem, facilitate our eagerly-awaited appointments so we popped over to Blighty.
    5ml of Pfizer gold top is currently working its magic on us with no apparent side-effects although Lady C says I have become even more insufferably smug than usual.
    Marvellous™
    A grateful thanks to all the staff and volunteers for a wonderful job – in and out in 15 minutes – and in particular the delightful Betul who did the business for us.
    Bloomin’ Jabtastic™
    In quarantine now for five days until we have another RT-PCR test so not much to do except drink gin. No change there then.
    But enough time to ponder this rum do of a question.
    Pfizer have reported 25 cases of blood clotting in 11 million vaccinations.
    Astrazeneca have reported 28 cases in 10 million.
    Yet Ireland is only suspending use of one.
    How queer.

    1. Bitnboxy

      I would not trade the vaccine blip for the unstoppable rot of Brexit. Glorious!

      Day by bleak day, the epic damage caused by this execrable deception, this shameful Conservative con, becomes ever more evident. No amount of Michael Gove spin can hide the facts. No amount of distortion of official statistics can conceal the acute harm. Feeble claims by David Frost, Brexit booster-in-chief, that Covid and EU hostility are to blame will not wash. It’s clear where responsibility lies. And “lies” is the operative word…https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/14/the-observer-view-on-the-grim-effects-of-brexit-being-impossible-to-hide

      Speaking of lies…”Lady C”?! Lol. Sure, Jan.

    2. benblack

      Welcome back, dude.

      Sorely missed.

      They attempted to redirect their hatred on Bodger due to your absence.

      All is well again.

      Hate gotta hate.

      Heroic.

        1. benblack

          Says the fair is fair Covid public protest observer, scottser.

          You accuse me of misogyny – evidence please.

          1. scottser

            benblack
            March 14, 2021 at 4:10 am

            Disgraceful behaviour in London and beyond – Covidiots!

            Super-spreader event.

            Thoughtless, selfish people – giving the two-fingers to all of us in lockdown.

            Full force of the law, I say.
            Reply ↓

            benblack
            March 14, 2021 at 4:21 am

            90% of which were female.

            Women are spreading Covid.

            Curfews for all women.

            And they murder more unborn babies daily than men murder women in years.
            Reply ↓
            benblack
            March 14, 2021 at 4:39 am

            BLM, women’s lives matter – All Lives Matter!

            Rant over.
            Reply ↓

            oh, and i have never commented on whether covid protests are fair or not.
            so that makes you a liar as well.

      1. Charger Salmons

        @benblack
        There does seem a lot of hatred around on BS these days.
        It’s almost as though some people are over-compensating for their desperately dull and unfulfilling lives.
        Inadequacy and self-loathing are more contagious than the Kent strain of the ‘Rona on here.
        I’m a relentlessly upbeat fellow myself.
        And I’ll soon be on me holliers.
        Marvellous™

        1. GiggidyGoo

          I suppose traveling for a vaccine is a valid excuse. Why not take blighty’s AZ though?

          1. Charger Salmons

            Vaccination centres are not Abrakebabra – you don’t have a menu to choose from.
            AFAIK Pfizer is given out at smaller community centres like pharmacies and GP surgeries and AZ at the big vaccination centres at football grounds and exhibition halls.
            I presume because of storage requirements.
            But I would have been happy with either – lots of my chums report flu-like symptoms after the AZ but it is considered slightly more effective than Pfizer.
            Both are 100% effective against death or hospitalisation.
            Btw, anyone over 50 who still has their NHS number can now get vaxxed in NI even with an Irish address.

    3. FREE Stickers inside!™

      Quit this jibber jabbering nonsense CS.
      It’s offensive.

      Come back when the UK can report ZERO deaths in one day.
      Until then you aren’t amusing anyone but yourself.

      We have a name for people like you around my way…

    4. Charger Salmons

      One thing I did notice on our brief sojourn to the mainland was the incredible mood of optimism among almost everyone we encountered.
      There was a cheeriness and good-humour among people who have endured a lot but can see the end in sight.
      A Blitz spirit if you like.
      There is going one hell of a party when things begin to open up next month.
      Pub beer gardens are booked solid for weeks and Rick Stein reports he has 30,000 advance bookings for his restaurants.
      This poll doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
      ‘ Britain enjoying greatest ever surge in economic optimism amid Covid-19 vaccine rollout, poll shows ‘

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/britain-greatest-surge-economic-optimism-covid19-vaccine-records-poll-b924103.html

      1. scottser

        not for the 15 million plus uk citizens living in poverty – that’s almost a quarter of the entire population and up 4 million on two years ago.
        let them eat flags, eh?

  3. GiggidyGoo

    The UK is doing the correct thing in extending the grace period. The NI protocol is a complicated piece of documentation, and the realities of its effects weren’t foreseen. It needs to be revisited and some intelligence mixed in this time.

    The EU is going to take the UK to the European Courts? I’d say the UK is shivering in its drawers.

    Lest we forget, it was the EU which first attempted to renege on the agreement a few short weeks ago.

        1. jungleman

          If you want to try and move the goalposts then technically the Brits looked to breach the protocol before it even came into operation. See the Internal Market Bill.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            They may have looked to do something before it came into operation, but it’s only when it was in operation that it could actually be breached. So i didn’t move any goalposts.

    1. SB

      The EU shouldn’t have done that, but it wasn’t in breach of the agreement. Nobody’s going to sign any new agreements with the UK the way it keeps going back on its word. Especially the U.S.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        What I’m saying though is that there were unforeseen real problems with this, and the EU playing hardball for the sake of a couple of months isn’t that clever.

        Like it or lump it, NI is still part of the UK, and the UK has a responsibility to it.

        There was quite a hullabaloo when the EU tried the use the NI Protocol without (we are told anyway) consultation with the Republic of Ireland. So much for EU responsibility to a member state. At least the UK recognizes its own members.

        Some intelligent people must now revisit this, on both sides.

        1. scottser

          you’re dead right giggsy, unless the protocol actually works for the people of northern ireland instead a stick to beat them with, it’ll never work.
          it’s sort of obvious that they need more time to get their act together and the eu is missing a trick to be seen as the gracious partner in this.

    2. Bitnboxy

      @GiddigyPox Quit the nonsense please. The UK government was well aware what they signed up to and the problems posed by the Irish Sea border:
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-55952459?__twitter_impression=true

      Everyone knew what they were signing. Really they did. It was always a “buy now, pay later” (and then pay as little and late as possible) type deal. Bozo just doesn’t care.

      And, in sharp contrast to Bozo’s Internal Markets Bill and the recent UK, unilateral action, the EU error using A16 lasted all of 16 hours before an apology was proffered.

      Facts are facts GiggidyPox.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Unfortunately the EU rather let the genie out of the lamp with Von der Leyen’s hapless manoeuvring over the NI protocol.
        This thing is going to get snarled up in the arbitration and judicial process for months giving time for some sensible negotiations.
        The sooner the EU stop grieving over Brexit the better.

        1. Bitnboxy

          Not so fast Charage: The EU have the threat of refusing to ratify the deal (European Parliament is not too keen at the moment) but it won’t come to that or retaliatory tariffs if things escalate further but the tragedy for the UK is that their game is so transparent. There will be lots of hot air and things will worsen in the coming months but little by little and behind the scenes the UK will acquiesce (although outwardly claiming a victory) and the EU will prevail. The UK can’t really win – impossible.

          Whatever about the UK unilateral action, they have spent a fortune on NI Irish Sea border infrastructure and implementation measures – that should tell you something.

      2. GiggidyGoo

        The DExEU closed in January 2020. 15 months ago. In case you aren’t aware, the Brexit negotiations went on throughout 2020, so there were changes.

  4. baz

    looking forward to the forthcoming mental gymnastics from the RTE and the Irish Times whereby the non compliant with Level 5 restrictions protest scheduled for O’Connell Street today will be deemed virtuous while the protests scheduled for tomorrow will be shameful

  5. f_lawless

    A rather informative thread on the AstraZeneca vaccine from the “Architects for Social Housing” group in reply to Fergal Bowers and RTE: https://twitter.com/9thfloor/status/1371750687726571520

    One section of note:
    “As of 9 March, 2021, the MHRA has received 54,180 reports of 201,622 suspected adverse events/reactions to the AstraZeneca vaccine, of which 275 have resulted in death shortly after vaccination.”

      1. alickdouglas

        Basically a publicly acessible safety report that confirms types and rates of reactions in line with what was observed in the phase III clinical trial and other events at the rates observed in the general population then?

        1. Charger Salmons

          But f_lawless has the smoking gun that no other independent medical expert or highly paid investigative journalist has so far managed to uncover.
          Well, him and the Architects of Social Housing …

        2. Johnny

          Hi Alick,do you implicitly trust the HSE numbers or maths.
          And if so is that based on their past skills in not planning on paying the bills.

          1. alickdouglas

            I’ve never worked with the HSE, I have no opinion of them. I’ve not heard that they’ve posted any significant data worth commenting on?

            The report referenced above is MHRA UK as such should be a simple compilation of raw data with no interpretation or statistics (it is literally just adding up totals of received ‘yellow cards’). The commentary cited suggested that this raw data revealed that there was something untoward going on with the safety reports, all I can see is data in line with previously published expectations.

          2. Johnny

            If they were a private company or even a Boy Scout troop,they would have gone bankrupt years ago,or shut down.

            Every year for the last decade they have failed to plan/prepare/budget internally using their own ‘numbers’ to pay the bills,maths huh,projections…

            …The information presented in this site is based on official figures provided by the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) and the Health Service Executive (HSE)…..

            https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

          3. Johnny

            ( est to build the hospital at St James’s was €400 million,these numbers were prepared by……wait for it the HSE,last time I checked it was 2.4 billion,they only off by 2 billion)

            …irish numbers from official sources are ridiculed internationally.
            Honohan,in a recent central bank paper,was bemoaning the bad math the irish govt departments are infamous for….

            ‘State statisticians, embarrassed by the “leprechaun economics” label, since 2016 have developed a new bespoke index for stripping out the multinationals’ overpowering influence in calculations. Called “GNI Star” and written as GNI*, it shows that Ireland’s underlying economic activity is about 40 percent lower than the headline GDP figures.‘

            https://www.politico.eu/article/ireland-gdp-growth-multinationals-misleading/

            But these numbers …….way to much reporting and decisions are based on dodgy numbers from the discredited ‘number crunchers’ at the HSE,they have zero credibility.

  6. V aka Frilly Keane

    Hi all
    If anyone is interested in a 40 Shades of Cake carryon tomorrow
    ye know where I am – just in case, tis @akaFrillyKeane or just click on the name above the date there

    only plugging it into todays’ papers in case ye needed to get a shop in

    I’m thinking meringue or macaron thingies, curd,
    maybe bikkies or Millie Frillies
    Defiant Tricolurs anyway

    One thing for sure ye’ll definitely need fresh cream and eggs
    and a few bottles of food colouring

    regards, V

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