Spotted these two ratlicking paddies – GAA lads? – taking part in a vaccine vox pop [on the streets of Melbourne, Australia]…@2.13, @2.31 and @6.21…I would like to see them both detained on their return to Ireland.
Sad that Broadsheet is still obscenely pushing biased anti-vax nonsense. How many extra deaths and ill health does Broadsheet want before it is satisfied?
Australia is to be commended by the way they continue to suppress the spread of the virus.
Are there not enough deaths worldwide and harrowing scenes of Indians dying in the street of Corona virus to placate Broadsheets anti public health measures lust to persuade people to reject vaccination? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56881083
Cui Bono?
It looks like Australia had covid in their winter 2019 – you should check out their total deaths data for 2019 – clear spikes like around Europe in 2020. Their winter is coming up now too so let’s see if they get hit again.
If you look at the actual data on India and not propaganda from the BBC you’ll see their deaths per million are lower than most countries in the world.
Bless you, you think the official Indian figures are more accurate than eyewitness account. As a statistician by trade I realise that anecdotal evidence is not always the most accurate, however, you would have to be extremely naive to believe the figures currently being released. It’s possible that there is a time lag and the numbers will catch up in due course, in the meantime, I think it’s safe to say that India is sadly heading to the top of the tables.
This is blatant acting and propaganda to incite fear and control the masses.
Cui Bono?
Haha bless yourself and your naivety.
It’s blatant staged acting and propaganda pumping out of India right now.
K. Cavan
The opening act in this circus were the scenes in Wuhan of people falling over dead in the streets, which were clearly fake, given what we now know about Sars02. It worked before & they now need to scare enough people into taking the jabs that it’ll reduce carbon emissions enough to meet the UN targets.
K. Cavan
So, H, what would you make of these Irish statistics. 70% of the Irish people who died of Covid were never admitted to ICU, 43% of these deaths were over 85’s, 92% were over 65. Then, over 94% of “cases” were never hospitalised & 70% of these “cases” were under 65’s. Now square that with the fact that we did virtually nothing to protect people in elderly care homes or the elderly in general, in fact quite the opposite & that the vast majority of unemployed, locked-down, bankrupt, suicidal people who’ve had almost all healthcare withdrawn are not elderly. It’s hindsight, for sure but the Government did exactly the opposite of what even these basic stats point towards. Staggering incompetence or what, eh?
Cian
Hmmm. Sounds like we did a good job then, compared to most of Europe and the USA.
Cali.Yah
So nice to see a clued in nation on that video. Irish people have been so sucked into this vaccine chaos. It is crazy. There are perfectly healthy 20 year olds, most of which wouldn’t even know if they had Covid, begging for this experimental drug. It makes no sense. In a few months from now, there are going to be some very sorry people that they let the Irish government treat them like this. I know people that are prone to blood clots, being told they need this vaccine. People are literally getting clots after it, so if you are already prone to them, how can you think this is safe???? Also, India has been mass vaccinated and NOW the deaths are rising – but it’s due to Covid? Come on. THIS is the public health emergency. Wake up Ireland.
Lurch
@Cali.Yah
Are you saying that vaccinated people are dying from Covid in large numbers in India? Or are you saying that they are spreading the virus?
Any source for these claims?
Mr. T
Only thing worrying here is KN branding people his disagrees with as “ratlickers” and demanding their detention in this country
Great to hear from you, how are things in Topsy-turvy-land these days?
Daisy Chainsaw
I’m sure the real world looks upside down from your jaunty angle.
Micko
Sooooo, If Bodger’s Far-Right – why aren’t you banned from Broadsheet Daisy?
Head on over to Breitbart or those Stormfront nutters and start calling people “far right” and see how long it takes you to get banned.
I’d say about 10 seconds – maybe 20…
Zaccone
+1
Encouraging debate from both sides of a political view is healthy in a democracy. Shouting down anything you don’t like as “far right” and demanding it not be discussed is not.
Micko
That’s an intelligent well made point Zaconne
Consider yourself cancelled bucko ;)
U N M U T U A L
+1 zaccone
Daisy Chainsaw
I’d say you’re well familiar with Sheitbart and SStormfront!
Micko
What a comeback!!!
Actually, if you must know – I’ve a level 7 membership of Stormfront.
I’ve the special decoder ring and everything.
Derp… ;p
#YerStillNotBannedItMakesNoSense
Daisy Chainsaw
And you’ll probably wear a star of David to the next Ratlicker rally.
Micko
That makes no sense.
Stick to ze anger Daisy.
Grrrr…
Papi
Charger/Bodger
Chardger?
Bardger?
Charbod?
It’s all much of a muchness now.
Their house, their desire to ruin what was a very good site, I mean, rules, obviously.
K. Cavan
Yeah, that lad, Avi, with the mic, he’s one of them Nazi Jews, right? Definitely. Those Nazi Jews, they’re so cunning.
Kevin Quinn
I don’t know why people are getting so het up about this. It is clear from the video that (a) Melbourne has an adequate supply of vaccines, and (b) there are lots of people who would prefer to not to get vaccinated.
It’s a very different situation to here, where people who want a vaccine cannot get one.
So I don’t see the problem in the video — everyone in Melbourne has been fully informed of the dangers of Covid-19, everyone can protect themselves right now if they wish — so just let nature take its course.
Of course, until everyone who wants a vaccine here has got one, I wouldn’t let anyone who isn’t vaccinated into the country without doing the mandatory hotel quarantine, and no exceptions for those two Irish morons just because they have a sick relative or something.
Cui Bono?
How many times does this need to be repeated???
You can still catch covid and spread it after vaccination. It only lessons severe symptoms.
There should be no discrimination between normal healthy people and vaccinated people.
Oro
Actually that’s incorrect.
Lots of copy / paste which I know not everyone likes but it is behind a paywall so listing the relevant parts. But there’s a lot more in there – worth a read. Basically vaccines are lowering ones opportunity to infect others. It’s a reality.
“Moderna tested all participants when they received their second dose and reported in December that fewer asymptomatic infections occurred in the vaccinated group than the placebo group after the first dose. Johnson & Johnson also reported data from nearly 3,000 phase three trial participants who were tested two months after vaccination to see if they had antibodies from a new infection since vaccination. That preliminary data suggested a 74 percent reduction in asymptomatic infection.”
“The most persuasive evidence, according to Dean, came from an early April CDC study of 3,950 healthcare workers who were tested weekly for three months after receiving both doses of either mRNA vaccine. Full vaccination reduced infection—regardless of symptoms—by 90 percent, and a single dose reduced infection by 80 percent.”
““We’ve seen a pretty drastic decrease of transmission in the country,” he says. “That suggests not only are the vaccines protecting against severe disease but it suggests there’s a reduction in transmission.””
80% of people who get covid do not even get symptoms and asymptomatic spread does not happen.
Also, it’s almost summer now and the virus has practically gone just like last summer.
You really need to get your head around the basics.
Oro
You said it only lessens severe symptoms and has no effect on transmission – this is not the case, as is being borne out by evidence. There is a difference between vaccinated people and non vaccinated people in their likelihood to spread the virus.
What you said was incorrect. Therefore a vaccinated person poses less of a risk to be allowed into the country. There’s some basics for you ;)
Cian
Tell Europe that it’s almost summer. The deaths are rising still.
Tell India it’s summer too.
K. Cavan
Antibodies are the last line of defence within the Immune System, they would only be produced by a severe infection, that’s why they say “suggested”, rather than proves. The April CDC study doesn’t mention how “infection” was determined, since they know Lateral Flow tests are a bit more accurate but don’t mention their methodology, I’d assume PCR tests, that’s useless data, utter junk science. There’s no causality for the reduction of transmission & infection, that would be absolutely assumed at this time of year, for all respiratory viruses, at least in the Northern Hemisphere. You’re exhibiting confirmation bias & all those sources are clearly finessing results, being disingenuous or simply lying.
Oro
ummm…the causality is the vaccine. That’s the difference between the sets. I can’t argue reality with you – you’ve clearly parted ways with it – if you’re convinced all of those individual sources are lying and some random unverified info off twitter is correct then there’s no value to it.
K. Cavan
I suspect “het up” is probably transphobic.
Papi
Charger/Bodger
Chardger?
Bardger?
Charbod?
It’s all much of a muchness now.
Their house, their desire to ruin what was a very good site, I mean, rules, obviously.
K. Cavan
By “very good site” I assume you mean they never published anything you disagreed with? There’s a huge Mainstream Media out there, waiting to clutch you to it’s bosom, don’t make them wait…
Papi
Not even slightly what I meant, but you’re too cool to know that.
Sad that Broadsheet is still obscenely pushing biased anti-vax nonsense. How many extra deaths and ill health does Broadsheet want before it is satisfied?
Australia is to be commended by the way they continue to suppress the spread of the virus.
Are there not enough deaths worldwide and harrowing scenes of Indians dying in the street of Corona virus to placate Broadsheets anti public health measures lust to persuade people to reject vaccination?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56881083
It looks like Australia had covid in their winter 2019 – you should check out their total deaths data for 2019 – clear spikes like around Europe in 2020. Their winter is coming up now too so let’s see if they get hit again.
If you look at the actual data on India and not propaganda from the BBC you’ll see their deaths per million are lower than most countries in the world.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=IND~IRL
You have to dive a little deeper than the mainstream media and look at the raw data to understand why so many are speaking out.
Bless you, you think the official Indian figures are more accurate than eyewitness account. As a statistician by trade I realise that anecdotal evidence is not always the most accurate, however, you would have to be extremely naive to believe the figures currently being released. It’s possible that there is a time lag and the numbers will catch up in due course, in the meantime, I think it’s safe to say that India is sadly heading to the top of the tables.
Haha OMG, bless yourself and your naivety.
https://twitter.com/ThreadsIrish/status/1386692986604564482?s=20
This is blatant acting and propaganda to incite fear and control the masses.
Haha bless yourself and your naivety.
It’s blatant staged acting and propaganda pumping out of India right now.
The opening act in this circus were the scenes in Wuhan of people falling over dead in the streets, which were clearly fake, given what we now know about Sars02. It worked before & they now need to scare enough people into taking the jabs that it’ll reduce carbon emissions enough to meet the UN targets.
So, H, what would you make of these Irish statistics. 70% of the Irish people who died of Covid were never admitted to ICU, 43% of these deaths were over 85’s, 92% were over 65. Then, over 94% of “cases” were never hospitalised & 70% of these “cases” were under 65’s. Now square that with the fact that we did virtually nothing to protect people in elderly care homes or the elderly in general, in fact quite the opposite & that the vast majority of unemployed, locked-down, bankrupt, suicidal people who’ve had almost all healthcare withdrawn are not elderly. It’s hindsight, for sure but the Government did exactly the opposite of what even these basic stats point towards. Staggering incompetence or what, eh?
Hmmm. Sounds like we did a good job then, compared to most of Europe and the USA.
So nice to see a clued in nation on that video. Irish people have been so sucked into this vaccine chaos. It is crazy. There are perfectly healthy 20 year olds, most of which wouldn’t even know if they had Covid, begging for this experimental drug. It makes no sense. In a few months from now, there are going to be some very sorry people that they let the Irish government treat them like this. I know people that are prone to blood clots, being told they need this vaccine. People are literally getting clots after it, so if you are already prone to them, how can you think this is safe???? Also, India has been mass vaccinated and NOW the deaths are rising – but it’s due to Covid? Come on. THIS is the public health emergency. Wake up Ireland.
@Cali.Yah
Are you saying that vaccinated people are dying from Covid in large numbers in India? Or are you saying that they are spreading the virus?
Any source for these claims?
Only thing worrying here is KN branding people his disagrees with as “ratlickers” and demanding their detention in this country
+1
I thought he was being ironic :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PnICy8mSEM&ab_channel=Fatshoolaces
Bodger promoting the links between antivaxx, antimask, antilockdown and the far right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_News absolute dregs.
Daisy, you ARE the Far Right.
Live from TopsyTurvyLand again?
Great to hear from you, how are things in Topsy-turvy-land these days?
I’m sure the real world looks upside down from your jaunty angle.
Sooooo, If Bodger’s Far-Right – why aren’t you banned from Broadsheet Daisy?
Head on over to Breitbart or those Stormfront nutters and start calling people “far right” and see how long it takes you to get banned.
I’d say about 10 seconds – maybe 20…
+1
Encouraging debate from both sides of a political view is healthy in a democracy. Shouting down anything you don’t like as “far right” and demanding it not be discussed is not.
That’s an intelligent well made point Zaconne
Consider yourself cancelled bucko ;)
+1 zaccone
I’d say you’re well familiar with Sheitbart and SStormfront!
What a comeback!!!
Actually, if you must know – I’ve a level 7 membership of Stormfront.
I’ve the special decoder ring and everything.
Derp… ;p
#YerStillNotBannedItMakesNoSense
And you’ll probably wear a star of David to the next Ratlicker rally.
That makes no sense.
Stick to ze anger Daisy.
Grrrr…
Charger/Bodger
Chardger?
Bardger?
Charbod?
It’s all much of a muchness now.
Their house, their desire to ruin what was a very good site, I mean, rules, obviously.
Yeah, that lad, Avi, with the mic, he’s one of them Nazi Jews, right? Definitely. Those Nazi Jews, they’re so cunning.
I don’t know why people are getting so het up about this. It is clear from the video that (a) Melbourne has an adequate supply of vaccines, and (b) there are lots of people who would prefer to not to get vaccinated.
It’s a very different situation to here, where people who want a vaccine cannot get one.
So I don’t see the problem in the video — everyone in Melbourne has been fully informed of the dangers of Covid-19, everyone can protect themselves right now if they wish — so just let nature take its course.
Of course, until everyone who wants a vaccine here has got one, I wouldn’t let anyone who isn’t vaccinated into the country without doing the mandatory hotel quarantine, and no exceptions for those two Irish morons just because they have a sick relative or something.
How many times does this need to be repeated???
You can still catch covid and spread it after vaccination. It only lessons severe symptoms.
There should be no discrimination between normal healthy people and vaccinated people.
Actually that’s incorrect.
Lots of copy / paste which I know not everyone likes but it is behind a paywall so listing the relevant parts. But there’s a lot more in there – worth a read. Basically vaccines are lowering ones opportunity to infect others. It’s a reality.
“Moderna tested all participants when they received their second dose and reported in December that fewer asymptomatic infections occurred in the vaccinated group than the placebo group after the first dose. Johnson & Johnson also reported data from nearly 3,000 phase three trial participants who were tested two months after vaccination to see if they had antibodies from a new infection since vaccination. That preliminary data suggested a 74 percent reduction in asymptomatic infection.”
“The most persuasive evidence, according to Dean, came from an early April CDC study of 3,950 healthcare workers who were tested weekly for three months after receiving both doses of either mRNA vaccine. Full vaccination reduced infection—regardless of symptoms—by 90 percent, and a single dose reduced infection by 80 percent.”
““We’ve seen a pretty drastic decrease of transmission in the country,” he says. “That suggests not only are the vaccines protecting against severe disease but it suggests there’s a reduction in transmission.””
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/yes-vaccines-block-most-transmission-of-covid-19?cmpid=int_org=ngp::int_mc=website::int_src=ngp::int_cmp=amp::int_add=amp_readtherest
80% of people who get covid do not even get symptoms and asymptomatic spread does not happen.
Also, it’s almost summer now and the virus has practically gone just like last summer.
You really need to get your head around the basics.
You said it only lessens severe symptoms and has no effect on transmission – this is not the case, as is being borne out by evidence. There is a difference between vaccinated people and non vaccinated people in their likelihood to spread the virus.
What you said was incorrect. Therefore a vaccinated person poses less of a risk to be allowed into the country. There’s some basics for you ;)
Tell Europe that it’s almost summer. The deaths are rising still.
Tell India it’s summer too.
Antibodies are the last line of defence within the Immune System, they would only be produced by a severe infection, that’s why they say “suggested”, rather than proves. The April CDC study doesn’t mention how “infection” was determined, since they know Lateral Flow tests are a bit more accurate but don’t mention their methodology, I’d assume PCR tests, that’s useless data, utter junk science. There’s no causality for the reduction of transmission & infection, that would be absolutely assumed at this time of year, for all respiratory viruses, at least in the Northern Hemisphere. You’re exhibiting confirmation bias & all those sources are clearly finessing results, being disingenuous or simply lying.
ummm…the causality is the vaccine. That’s the difference between the sets. I can’t argue reality with you – you’ve clearly parted ways with it – if you’re convinced all of those individual sources are lying and some random unverified info off twitter is correct then there’s no value to it.
I suspect “het up” is probably transphobic.
Charger/Bodger
Chardger?
Bardger?
Charbod?
It’s all much of a muchness now.
Their house, their desire to ruin what was a very good site, I mean, rules, obviously.
By “very good site” I assume you mean they never published anything you disagreed with? There’s a huge Mainstream Media out there, waiting to clutch you to it’s bosom, don’t make them wait…
Not even slightly what I meant, but you’re too cool to know that.