78 thoughts on “Wednesday’s Papers”

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      2.5 million Brits haven’t enough money to feed themselves and have to rely on food banks. When the tories won’t feed their own, they’re not going to feed Johnny Foreigner!

  2. f_lawless

    “The Scottish Government wants its emergency coronavirus powers to become permanent – including the ability to order schools to close, impose lockdowns and operate virtual courts.

    https://www.gbnews.uk/news/scottish-government-seeks-to-make-many-emergency-coronavirus-powers-permanent/117857

    Draconian emergency Covid-19 powers becoming permanent? Who could ever have foreseen such a thing happening. Same thing could never happen here in this bastion of liberal democracy, of course

      3. Junkface

        Can you point to a major story were GB news got all of the facts wrong? I have not seen one yet, but I’ve only watched some clips or short reports. I think they people have gotten all tribal over GB news without never having watched it. The only show or clips I will not watch is Nigel Farage. Andrew Doyle has been great. And yes the Scottish Gov’t have gone insane.

          1. Junkface

            Well, you know what they say about being stuck in a bubble. GB news is not comparable to Fox news. They actually have well educated reporters and journalists with principles. Maybe broaden your mind?

            Consuming a wide range of ideas would actually improve your self-respect.

          2. Daisy Chainsaw

            well educated reporters and journalists with principles.? Oh how I laughed!

            Dan Woooootoooooon.

            Case closed.

          3. Formerly known as @ireland.com

            @junkface – I read lots of stuff from all comers on Twitter, without needing to spend time on nasty websites.

            I read the Spectator article about Covid that someone posted a few days ago. There are plenty of quality news/opinion sites so I don’t have to waste my time on garbage ones.

            This bloke has interesting things to say about GB News:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YKg3m82P8g

          4. Junkface

            I don’t know much about Dan Wooton, I was talking about lots of the other presenters on that channel.
            Still, nobody can point to one major story that they got the facts wrong, or just plainly lied about a story, a la Fox news. So journalistically they are already ahead of many other new channels or publications.

          5. ian-oG

            Dan Wooton is the walking, talking epitome of an oxygen thief.

            As a matter of fact, he makes Eamonn Holmes look like a mammal.

  3. Birdie

    The crowds allowed for an all Ireland are a total farce compared to the measly numbers that live music is allowed and of course we can’t let those pesky dancers do what they love because you know GAA supporters are purer somehow.

    1. Micko

      I can’t understand it. It’s like art and culture aren’t important.

      “ Without culture, and the relative freedom it implies, society, even when perfect, is but a jungle.”

    2. Bitnboxy

      Crikey – a lot of the people you are now desperately trying to find common cause with SOQ hate one very important aspect of your being – who will you big-up next, Orban, Putin?

      Ariana Thompson of Inked described Tom MacDonald as “one of the most divisive personas hip hop has ever seen” and wrote that his right-wing fanbase “cling[s] onto every word he utter[s]:

      I’m guessing “Brainwashed” is a send-up by MacDonald of his own fan base.

      Guess what MacDonald has to say about gay people?

      Go on, guess…

      Still, his tracks “Strong Whiteboy” and “Beta Snowflake” are real bangers, well, if you like that sort of thing.

      1. Micko

        Here a link to that entire article there.

        Bit more context

        https://www.inkedmag.com/original-news/tommacdonald

        “ MacDonald is all for guiding his fans into having conversations about politics, but he draws the line when it comes to his listeners using his lyrics as inspiration for violence. “If you’re that easily influenced that you’re going to listen to a song and commit some act of violence, the bottom line is you’re a moron,” he says.”

        1. paddy apathy

          That’s like an E&OE at the end of a letter from an insurance company. Don’t blame me for the hatred.

          1. Micko

            Hip hop wouldn’t be my thing tbh.

            But did you read the entire article?

            Did you think he said anything that would label him as right wing?

        2. ian-oG

          He’s up there with Snow as one of Canadas great hip hop exports – Informer ananananana a licky boom boom down….

          4. Fergalito

            Thanks for the info Ian and yes, it’s pretty nice alright Papi. I like the line about leaving a ring of dirt around the basin :-)

            I kinda caught the hip-hop train fadó fadó around the start of the whole Daisy-Chain movement, loved the vibes, samples and rhymes. I don’t know when i disembarked but I find the whole hip-hop landscape currently overwhelming – don’t even know where to begin. Not into the whole Gangsta rap chest-puffing, when i do throw on a few tunes it’s the olden and golden stuff i reach for. That said open to suggestions.

            *cough*

      2. SOQ

        And that comment entirely proves the song- identity politics all the way.

        I didn’t ‘big up’ anything. I merely commented that number one on iTunes over all major label artists in all genres and over 3 million views in four days on YouTube is an achievement.

        I know nothing of MacDondald’s views on gay people- he may be homophobic, but sure that’s hardly anything new in rap now is it?

        Interestingly no attack on Lucas Lion- I’m sure it is coming. When you are told what to think I suppose.

          1. SOQ

            I think it is very on the mark myself.

            Brace yourself Brigid- you are going to see a lot more of this sort of stuff- the creatives are being mobilised.

    3. Formerly known as @ireland.com

      Tom MacDonald – I had never heard of him, I won’t be listening to any more of his bile.
      From Wikipedia:
      Writing for Vice, Drew Millard described MacDonald as “turgid”, and wrote that he rose to fame by “taking the undercooked platitudes of the Intellectual Dark Web and filtering them into songs”, adding that he “can feel like an unstoppable force of reactionary dumbness”.
      Garrett Gravley of the Dallas Observer wrote that his songs being “white victim complex anthems” made him an “oracle of sorts” among “zoomer Trump supporters”.
      Nick Monroe of conservative magazine The Post Millennial described MacDonald as “anti-woke”.

      1. Micko

        But sure, that’s just other peoples opinions Formerly

        What’s yours?

        I’ve listed to a few of his tracks and I find him a bit too preachy and trying to influence me – plus I don’t really like hip hop that much.

        But I went off Dan le Sac vs Scroobius pip for the same reason.

        Too preachy…

        1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

          @Micko – I am not a fan of any hip-hop, so I was never going to enjoy it. He sounded like Eminem, so I don’t think he is that original. I am more of a fan of The Clash or Horslips.

      2. GiggidyGoo

        You’re gas. Your go-to source of information is Wikipedia and you berate people elsewhere for quoting a news channel?

        1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

          A channel that has the word “news” does not make it a news channel. A prime example is Sky News. Let me know which of the quotes is wrong. I wasn’t using Wikipedia to decide how to respond to a pandemic, I was reading about a hip-hop artist.

    4. Daisy Chainsaw

      A friend of mine was No 1 on iTunes for a couple of days but didn’t trouble the charts. It’s not the indicator of popularity you want it to be.

  5. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

    as students myself and brothers paid our own rent and food, it’s called a job ;)
    rent prices are ridiculous no matter what tranche of society you live in

    1. anonann

      That headline you refer to mentions families. The cost of going to university now includes fees that are much more expensive than when I attended college, for example – back when college was free. Couple that with exorbitant rents and inflation causing rising prices in food and other basics, the cost of a college education (job or no job) is has now risen considerably. So if you’re a student who is lucky enough to have fees paid by mam and dad, that means your family is absorbing some of the cost – there are still the huge expenses involved with accommodation and food, never mind any books or equipment required, and there are plenty who work a full time job unable to afford rent/food/transport/books. For a student only working limited hours, it seems an impossible situation. Even harder, if they’re paying their fees too.

      1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

        oh I agree, the rental situation makes it impossible to manage without Mum and Dad, not very fair society

    1. ian-oG

      People do not want to know Nigel. The idea that this is happening, now, is just something they cannot handle.

      Curiously, there is a huge intersection between those who deny the reality of this and other matters so rather than humanity uniting to try and figure it all out we end up with rhetoric and finger pointing.

      When the temperatures starts to hit over 30c in places like Siberia that are above the arctic circle on a regular basis it will cause permafrost melt which in turn will release methane which as I am sure you now is far, far worse for the atmosphere than carbon. We could see a mass runaway event in a scant few years or if we are lucky, decades.

      It doesn’t look good and the solution is still being denied by many of those with the ability to do something about it.

      Chalk to down to a confluence or greed, fear and ignorance. Those who have lots are loathe to give up even a tiny amount of it.

      1. Charlie

        Speak for yourself. I’d “like to know” because I like to read and listen, weigh up the facts and make my own mind up thanks very much.

        1. ian-oG

          I am only speaking for myself and my my own view of what is happening, would you like to share your own conclusions?

          3. Charlie

            Apologies but it’s really irritating when individuals make broad statements like that. I’m more than aware of climate change and the desperate situation. People Do care and do want to know. Some just take an awful lot more work and convincing than others.

          4. ian-oG

            Thanks Charlie but no need for an apology, I was genuinely curious as to your view but of course this is hardly the best place for nuance (online I mean, not necessarily Broadsheet) so my own apologies if I seemed a little brusque.

            I was indeed making a broad statement but it was directed at people who still think everything is fine and this is all perfectly natural. Clearly something very odd is happening irrespective of what people believe to be the cause and its seems to be escalating now. Maybe its a blip, but I don’t really think so.

            Interesting times ahead and not necessarily the good type.

      2. Nigel

        I think people are broady supportive of climate change-driven policies, the same way they’re supportive of policies to relieve homelessness and tackle rents and house prices, and fixing the health service, the way they turned out to be supportive of repealing the 8th, they’re just so inured to our political leaders going ahead and being a bunch of neoliberal capitalist monkeys and failing to adress the problems, or making them worse, because someone somewhere is making a lot of money and that’s the important thing, that they expect all the talk about it to go nowhere. Like all these data centres – nobody bloody wants feckin data centres, nobody. Nobody wants monoculture forestry everywhere, nobody wants windmills put up on bogs – it’s insane! – but they go ahead and do it anyway. Utter disillusionment, cyncism and powerlesness are the greatest assets to Irish governments, so they like to cultivate it as much as they can. Meanwhile the elctorate will punish the Green Party the way you punish a tea towel for for failing to stop a tidal wave.

        2. ian-oG

          Absolutely Nigel, the fetishization of data centres as being in any way good for Ireland always puzzled me until I remember that our media are useless in the main and just report on press releases.

          However, while the Greens have the arrogant and clueless Ryan as their leader its hard to have any sympathy for their inevitable next mass loss of seats.

          1. Nigel

            Oh I don’t really have much actual sympathy for the Greens. They should be the thorn in the government’s side, not their enablers.

    1. ian-oG

      Ah no, like really, really no.

      Loved him, such an odd sense of humour but so funny. Whether it was 8 out of 10 cats or his stand up, the guy was a natural comedian.

      RIP Sean, you’ll be missed.

        1. Papi

          Definitely. Going through the 8 out 10 best of’s now, the man is beautifully insane.
          “That’s a difficult w*nk” was just perfectly delivered, you could see the faces dropping.

          2. Junkface

            Ah feck it! That’s awful. He was only the funniest one on lots of those panel shows. I didn’t know he was ill. RIP Sean Lock

          3. Paulus

            I remember that punchline, but can’t rem the lead-in. Another one to revisit then from one very funny guy.

  9. Nigel

    Tempted to feel a smidge of schadenfreud, but seems part of the Tories’ policy of criminalising dissent:

    ‘Warrant issued for arrest of anti-vaccine professor Dolores Cahill’
    https://extra.ie/2021/08/18/news/irish-news/dolores-cahill-uk-arrest-warrant

    ‘Prof Cahill reportedly told the hundreds of people who had gathered in Trafalgar Square last September that vaccines could make people sick, and could give them multiple sclerosis and allergies’

    (That’s not why the warrent was issued, pr se, that’s just a sample of her… views.)

    ‘The reason for the warrant was given as a ‘failure to answer bail’ and related to two charges connected to a rally held in Trafalgar Square on September 19, 2020, for a protest against virus restrictions and mass vaccinations.’

    Oh, and apparently…

    ‘She was asked to resign as chair of the rightwing Irish Freedom Party in March over her unsubstantiated views.
    In a letter to Prof Cahill, Irish Freedom Party founder Hermann Kelly told the academic her claims ‘draw the credibility of the party into disrepute and are unacceptable’.’

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      The humour on this site just keeps on coming! Nigel’s tea boy cribbing about the credibility of the party is the second funniest thing I’ve read here today, the funniest being Gammony Bigots’ News having “reporters” and “journalists” with integrity!

      I need the belly laughs after reading about Sean Locke.

  11. Lilly

    A warrant has issued for Dolores Cahill’s arrest in London over last summer’s rally in Trafalgar Square.

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