Yesterday.

Via Reuters:

Greta Thunberg and fellow youth campaigners struck a sceptical tone for this week’s climate talks in Italy, saying much has been promised but little done to tackle global warming in almost three decades since the landmark Earth Summit.

Monday: How Dare Goo

Meanwhile…

This morning.

Unclear if winter power outages will occur, says Ryan (RTÉ)

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75 thoughts on “The Blah Planet

    1. Nigel

      He’s let himself become both apologist and scapegoat for environmentally damaging policies. It’s a deeply unedifying spectacle.

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        1. Nigel

          Which bit? The OPW destroying streams and rivers with concrete flood schemes? Air pollution from combustion engines? Fertiliser run-off from farms? Trees in towns and cities being cut fdown, hedgerows ripped up? Monoculture commercial forestry development? Which bit is the scam?

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          1. E'Matty

            Nigel, we’d all support him in tackling such real environmental issues, just not the carbon con which has hijacked the “environmental” movement.

          2. Nigel

            I’ve seen your assessment of the science behind the ‘carbon con,’ not to mention your idea of what constitutes the environmental movement. I think you should listen to the grown-ups on this one.

      1. bisted

        …it’s what Eamo does when the rest of us are sleeping…he must scan the internet for soundbites to add to his blather…the Greta generation seem wise to the greens who have sullied that mantle and use it as a flag of convenience…

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        1. Fergalito

          Teats Scottser, teats – I don’t want to visualise bulls with Barbara Windsor-esque boobs at this time of the morning. Perhaps even with Benny Hill chasing them around a field, the lecherous old oddity.

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    2. seanydelight

      Like all green party reps, he exists to make your life more expensive and difficult every few years, with a smug look on their face as they look down on you form their high saddle.

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      1. Nigel

        That’s weird, as if non-Greenies haven’t been making life steadily more expensive and difficult for decades and as if the Greenies form only a tiny part of the current government making life more expensive and difficult.

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  1. ce

    All your crap photos, videos, data etc…etc… hosted on clouds is destroying the planet – we need to bring back typewriters and filing cabinets….

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  2. Nilbert

    Blah Blah Blah, or as it translates in the ancient language Soqqish, Six Six Six. Woe to you, oh earth and sea
    For the Devil sends the beast with wrath.
    Because he knows the time is short
    Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
    For it is a human number
    Its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

    WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!

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    1. Nigel

      We had a whole thread where people argued with a straight face that she is linked to Satanists and Freemasons as part of a global plot and they know this because of the way some pictures were taken. What ‘thing’ seems culty again?

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          1. Nigel

            Good luck campaigning for the environment while ignoring widlfires, floods, droughts, crop failures, rising sea levels, cooling sea temperatures, vanishing glaciers, massive movements of people, catastrophic biodiversity loss and ecosystem collapse and destructive resource exploitation enabled by the melting of the Arctic all brought about or exacerbated by climate change.

          2. Micko

            It’s not that they’re not right.

            It’s that we’re going to do nothing about it.

            Even using the internet damages the environment. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/online-habits-killing-the-planet-dispatches

            So, maybe if you’re really worried about it, you should stop using the internet unnecessarily? Remember when we used it as a tool before 2008? Now it’s addictive.

            Is Broadsheet necessary for you Nigel? How can you live with yourself, knowing that every keystroke you make damages the environment. :P

            You monster… blah blah blah… you’ve stolen my future… blah blah blah… shame on you…

          3. Nigel

            ‘It’s that we’re going to do nothing about it.’

            Speak for yourself, though to be honest not doing something in the face of an impending crisis makes you more cult-like than the people pointing out that something needs to be done about the impending crisis.

            ‘So, maybe if you’re really worried about it, you should stop using the internet unnecessarily?’

            Maybe if I’m really worried about it I’ll take the advice of someone who has courageously decided to commit himself to doing nothing about it with a pinch of salt?

            ‘You monster… blah blah blah… you’ve stolen my future… blah blah blah… shame on you…’

            You’re sneering at the people who you have agreed are in the right.

          4. Micko

            “the people who you have agreed are in the right.”

            No, I agreed that the politicians are talking rubbish. She’s right on that point.

            But yes, we’re going to do nothing about it. Sure look, you won’t even stop using the internet unnecessarily – how easy is that to do?

            And of course you don’t need to take my “advice” for it, here’s the BBC saying the same as the Channel 4 documentary I shared.

            https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200305-why-your-internet-habits-are-not-as-clean-as-you-think

            Is being on Broadsheet really necessary for you Nigel?

          5. Nigel

            ‘She’s right on that point.’

            And about everything else.

            ‘But yes, we’re going to do nothing about it’

            Again, speak for yourself.

            ‘Sure look, you won’t even stop using the internet unnecessarily’

            Is that the standard? So long as someone, somewhere is using the internet unnecessarily, it’s okay to do nothing about the environmental crisis?

          6. Micko

            Every single keystroke Nigel… ;P

            But in all seriousness, why do yo think I’m saying that it’s ok to do nothing about it? I’m not.

            All I’m saying is that we won’t as long as it doesn’t personally threaten us in our immediate future.

            We saw in the last 18 months what is necessary for people to be motivated to make change. It has to be a threat right in peoples faces for them to change their behaviours.

            The threat of future generations being hurt by climate issues won’t really change anyones actions- at least not permanently.

            But none of us here will even do something teeny tiny to offset it, stop using the internet unnecessarily. All the while (some) going around complaining about other peoples actions or inaction.

            Something that’s super easy. Just go back to using the internet as a tool.

            We won’t even do that FFS.

            I wonder how much C02 we’ve generated in the past 18 months from being on here…?

          7. Nigel

            ‘why do yo think I’m saying that it’s ok to do nothing about it? I’m not. ‘

            Then stop arguing that nothing will be done. That’s self-fulfilling.

            ‘All I’m saying is that we won’t as long as it doesn’t personally threaten us in our immediate future.’

            Loads of things threaten us in our immediate future. The blockage isn’t ‘people not wanting things to be done.’

            ‘We saw in the last 18 months what is necessary for people to be motivated to make change’

            In the last 18 months you consistently aligned yourself with people opposing taking action in the face of an immediate global crisis. Meanwhile, action was taken, showing that it is not only possible, it’s relatively easy.

            ‘But none of us here will even do something teeny tiny to offset it’

            Teeny tiny offsets are ludicrously insufficent, even when the goal you’re setting is ridiculously narrow and arbitrary.

          8. K. Cavan

            ….while ignoring widlfires, floods, droughts, crop failures…
            FLOODS, DROUGHTS….
            Says it all, really.

          9. Micko

            I don’t know what you’re rabbiting on about “constantly aligning yourself” rubbish. .

            I can agree with people on certain things and not on others.Im a malleable changeable unfixed human being.

            Case in point the satanic stuff from earlier in the week. I don’t agree with that.

            But that’s a constant tactic you use to discredit people when your argument is weak.

            Anyway,

            “Teeny tiny offsets are ludicrously insufficient” – I thought EVERY little helped? That’s what we’ve been told for years? Bags for life, energy saving lightbulbs, paper straws etc

            Which is it?

            The internet is responsible for a similar amount of carbon as the aviation industry. about 3.7%. It’s in that BBC article I shared – I’m sure you read it. ;P

            So, how would you feel about an ‘internet usage tax’? Tax everyone for using the internet and make it a variable fee, not a fixed one.

            To encourage people not to use the internet as much – it might give a boost to the local economy, and not to use Amazon was much.

            Might also kill social media – an added bonus.

            Seems like something we could do instantly. I bet that would help.

            More than paper effin straws anyway.

          10. K. Cavan

            ….rising sea levels, cooling sea temperatures, vanishing glaciers…
            The Climate Emergency Narrative is constructed on such contradictory jibber-jabber. Meanwhile the planet has a slight uptick in temperature as it cools towards the next ice age in the 40,000 year cycle or maybe it’s 8,000 years, there’s a 100,000 year cycle, too, it’s far more complex than “CO2 Bad” simply based on correlation, exactly as shark attacks & ice cream consumption track each other perfectly, because it’s Summer, no causality.
            Commercial food-producers use comercially-produced CO2, at triple our current atmospheric levels, to grow food faster, to feed us.
            Any movement claiming “science” while using a scientifically illiterate child as their spokesperson, in order to terrify children, deserves no serious consideration, they should be laughed off the stage.
            Hahahahaha!

          11. Nigel

            ‘the planet has a slight uptick in temperature’

            You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, do you? Not the slightest clue.

          12. Nigel

            ‘Case in point the satanic stuff from earlier in the week. I don’t agree with that.’

            I’m glad, but that’s kind of a low bar.

            ‘I thought EVERY little helped?’

            Think local, act global. Systemic change is what will help.

            ‘So, how would you feel about an ‘internet usage tax’?’

            I think it would be completely useless, downright counterproductive, since it wouldn’t actually address any of the problems, which are unsustainable methods of power generation, exploitative labour practices, highly polluting materials extraction and an entire tech culture built on planned obsolescence.

            ‘More than paper effin straws anyway.’

            No, it would be exactly another paper effin straws approach.

          13. Micko

            “are unsustainable methods of power generation, exploitative labour practices, highly polluting materials extraction and an entire tech culture built on planned obsolescence.”

            Yes, they sound like things that can be solved quickly and easily. Is this not an emergency?

          14. Nigel

            They COULD be solved relatively quickly and easily, therefore it’s worth examining why they aren’t, and it’s not because you and I don’t want them solved or couldn’t live quite happily with the consequences of their being solved. The emergency is, as Ms Thunberg correctly points out, in getting the people in power to act on the problems, and act decisively, so it’s far more effective for you and me to push for change via activism and democracy than to abstain from Broadsheet. If there’s one thing we can learn from Eamon Ryan it’s that seeking compromise with parties like FF/FG on the environment will lead to them maing a complete fool of you, and it really is time that lesson was learned.

          15. K. Cavan

            Yes, Nigel, I do know what I’m talking about, Science & Facts, not a ludicrous position where we’re supposed to do something to stop floods & droughts, at the same time, I assume.
            The entire “CO2 Bad” scam is nonsense, simplistic junk science for a movement that’s a modern equivalent to the guy with the sign saying “The End Is Nigh”.
            The thing I wonder about is are these people evil or just crazy.
            That video clip makes them look like simpletons but there are scientists who maintain that the level of fakery & deceit they engage in indicates otherwise.

          16. Nigel

            You really just can’t wrap your head around the idea that too much of an otherwise beneficial thing can have bad consequences, huh? And you have the cheek to accuse others of being simplistic?

            ‘not a ludicrous position where we’re supposed to do something to stop floods & droughts, at the same time, I assume.’

            You really, really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?

      1. Nilbert

        That was the best thread ever! It would be horrifying if you didn’t realise that Broadsheet commenters are a tiny monority of trolls, attention seekers, and genuine dingbats.

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  3. E'Matty

    Ah, energy blackouts they say. On here, and before the HSE attack, I predicted three things, a cyber pandemic, energy shortages and global supply chain issues impacting on food and raw material supplies. It’s like a bloody playbook.

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    1. Nigel

      You predicted them? Activists and campaigners have been pointing out that these things are more or less inevitable if we keep ignoring certain trends. But blah blah.

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    1. E'Matty

      Overpopulation is a Malthusian myth. In fact, after peaking in the next decade or two, the planet’s population faces a steep decline. If fertility levels keep plummeting, as they have done so in the past 40 years, that decline could be a collapse. Overpopulation has been an obsession of ruling elites going back centuries. “What most frequently meets our view (and occasions complaint) is our teeming population. Our numbers are burdensome to the world, which can hardly support us. … In every deed, pestilence and famine .. . wars and earthquakes have to be regarded as a remedy for nations, as the means of pruning the luxuriance of the human race.” - This quote comes not from the 18th, 19th or even 20th century. This quotation was penned by Tertullian, a resident of the city of Carthage in the Second Century A.D., when the population of the world was about 190 million, or only 3–4% of what it is today.

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        1. E'Matty

          Ah, rare common ground. Even the most polarised of us can on occasion find points of agreement, which I suppose should provide some hope for us despite our daily mutual abuse sessions.

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  4. K. Cavan

    What happened was that a genuine, altruistic ecological movement was hijacked by the Left, who see it as nothing more than a weapon to use against Capitalism.

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  5. Redundant Proofreaders Society

    Load-shedding for domestic households and offices during the night would be a great solution. If it wasn’t for the darned fridges.

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