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— RTÉ News (@rtenews) October 29, 2021
This afternoon.
Tánaiste Leo Varadkar said the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) is reviewing whether to resume testing ‘asymptomatic close contacts of primary school children’.
Via RTE News:
Leo Varadkar said if there is a change to the current policy, it is more likely to be a move to testing rather than contact tracing.
Speaking to reporters in Monaghan, he said the current spike in cases among children aged 5-12 was not surprising given that they are not vaccinated.
But he added there are indications that will change and vaccines could be offered to children in that age group.
NPHET assessing close contact testing in schools (RTÉ)
Yesterday: ‘Kid-Sized Doses’
A brief timeline:
– Schools are grand, all the kids will be fine, they don’t transmit Covid at all, at all.
– Schools are mostly grand, we’ll do some contact tracing.
– Schools are a bit dodgy, we’ll stick with the contact tracing.
– Schools are still a bit dodgy but we’ll drop the contact tracing, it will be grand.
– Schools are VERY dodgy and we might start the contact tracing again.
What a rollercoaster ride, almost like they’re talking out their bot-bots and making it up as they go along.
Perhaps the first item should be “kids are vectors, schools aren’t grand” – just a suggestion.
Would bring the whole thing more or less full-circle then….
Was that the initial stance? So hard to remember all the U-turns.
Indeed it was …. that’s what they said and then as you’ve outlined more or less (so far!).
Ah yes, ”vectors” is coming back to me now, thanks.
The repeated u-turns on schools are a great example to use when people slavishly try to insist “you can’t question the government, they know what they’re doing”.
Yes, Broadbag, meanwhile our children are dying from Covid at a rate of none, daily.
Ironically, if we had proper contact tracing it’s possible it’d show that they’ve been spreading it to people who do…
If we only we lived in China
Yes, you’d like that, I’m sure.
Two things Irish governments do well – completely neglect health and completely neglect education. So, no new ICUs and staff; no efforts to modernise schools, reduce class sizes and put in proper ventilation – to say nothing ot the contact tracing farce. They really are ever so reliable.
Don’t worry they’re sending out Carbon Dioxide monitors for each and every classroom…except they ballsed that up too.
I’ll have you know that I got a great education out in the prefab building, as did my father before me, and his father before him
There is a huge amount of work building and modernising schools:
https://assets.gov.ie/100106/550d327e-96e4-41e5-b990-262a39d4be7c.pdf
problem is there are a huge number of schools.
and in comes Cian to defend his employer.
to add balance, with evidence.
Sure they’re great Cian. https://www.thejournal.ie/parents-express-horror-at-prefab-conditions-at-north-dublin-secondary-school-5550890-Sep2021/
No problem greasing McCourts/Dinnys paw quickly though.
I didn’t say they were great.
I didn’t say there were zero problems.
I said that there is a huge amount of work building and modernising schools.
The papers don’t show the good that is happening, only the bad.
It was de mejia dat dun it..
Cian
did you ever make progress on the vaccination question for your own children?
(no change my end)
After an in depth look at that, there are very few of those actually at site stage. Most are planning/tendering etc. You can’t tell for how long from that list, so it’s pretty useless information.
Like the monorail North side.
@Nigel
That’s because they don’t want us healthy and intelligent. If we were then they wouldn’t be able to rule over us.
Yes, they are cartoon villains with cartoon motivations for cartoon evil deeds like Dastardly and Muttley.
Ha Ha!
You posted an article from The Guardian the other day that LITERALLY has the dozen people most responsible for climate change portrayed as cartoon villains.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/27/climate-crisis-villains-americas-dirty-dozen
Nigel sez “YOUR demonisation of people in power as cartoon villains is wrong Cui Bono, but MY demonisation of people in power as cartoon villains is right on.”
Oh man, you are hilarious!
You’re so desperate to create an equivalence you’re saying CB’s ridiculous made-up motivation for government neglect is the same as a newspaper article outlining actual harmful acts by actual people which are on the actual record and directly connected to the people who did them, and undeniably harmful. A real equivalence would be an article outlining the people who have had harmful effects through their actions on Irish health and education or, to flip it round, if i said the people in that article were doing it because they’re aliens in disguise out to destroy humanity.
Sure. Well let’s say that both your’s and CB’s cartoon villains are correct for sake of argument.
And again, I’m not saying either are or are not (just devils advocate) and pulling you up on your hypocritical BS.
So,
Should, I be more concerned that a global climate catastrophe that MIGHT upset my future life, if somehow we won’t be able to deal with it with our continually advancing technology and we won’t be able to think our way out of it.
Or
Should I be more concerned with about our lives are being controlled more and more by authoritarian governments who are literally telling us where we can and can’t go and how we have to behave based on medical status and segregating our society via a collusion of state, media and smartphone apps based on the fact that 0.07% of the global population is dead.
Even if neither, OR both of these scenarios ARE true, I know which group seems like a cartoon villain to me and which one I’d be more concerned about.
The one that is affecting me right now, because as you said earlier – Vax Passes make no sense, and you’re against them – right? So why have them?
But, I’m sure you’re right.
You always are…
That’s a lot of rationalisation to avoid the central, important point which you deliberately set aside – what is true, and what isn’t. It is not true that governments deliberately neglected health and education because they want us stupid and unhealthy – or at least if it is, no evidence proferred to that effect. It is true that those people did all those harmful things in relation to the environment. You are claiming to categorise the latter as cartoonish now because you feel sufficently inuslated from the effects of their harm. (This is not actually true, but you’re pretty good at persuading yourself of your own personal invulnerability.) Whereas CBs attribution of motivation seems more real to you because you are personally inconvenienced by public health restrictions and if you feel that is as a result of malevolent forces at work behind the scenes, then I guess it’s more dramatic and your pique seems less petty.
This is why it’s better to go with what’s true than with whatever version best feeds your ego.
Health and Education are fundamental rights that any State should ensure are top of the list.
What do Irish governments do well – as opposed to adequately?
I’m struggling to think about exemplars of State excellence down through the decades which doesn’t mean of course that there aren’t any. I can’t rustle up anything beyond Lemass and dragging us out of the medieval mindset right now …
Rural electrification?
Libraries.
Yep, no more than Lemass we’re going fairly far back with rural electrification and I agree that libraries are well run and provide a good service but in the last 20 or 30 years I’m drawing a blank on anything fundamental that has been done exceptionally well.
There used to be politicians cut from noble cloth that genuinely represented what they believed and were made of decent mettle. Now it’s a type that gravitates towards political life, not a type I believe have much going for them in terms of social policies.
I don’t like to be naysayer but the older I get and the more I bear witness to the more I find myself saying nay…
I’ll have you know, Nigel, our former Minister for Children, the Witch Zappone, had an expensive & detailed plan drawn up to convert our schools segregated toilet facilities into non-gendered facilities.
I knew them trans were behind it all.
“Speaking to reporters in Monaghan, he said the current spike in cases among children aged 5-12 was not surprising given that they are not vaccinated.”
Hardly another effort by leo to push the story that vaccination is protection from infection ?
Is it reflective of his opinion of people’s intelligence ?
Nice Suit Oh emperor !
Scary to think he is actually a medical doctor.
He didn’t last long working at that profession.
“Speaking to reporters in Monaghan, he said the current spike in cases among children aged 5-12 was not surprising given that they are not vaccinated….”
Ergo the current spike in cases among people of Waterford is surprising given that they are vaccinated. So square that circle please before you put vaccines forward as the answer.
Spike is such as subjective word though. Have you compared the current numbers of the spike in Waterford with the spike in January?
That’s one of a number of things people don’t do when it comes to that Waterford story.
Yeah, Nigel, like face the facts?
Can’t face what you don’t go looking for.
Spike is an objective word – ‘a sharp increase in the magnitude or concentration of something’.
No but I have compared it with other less vaccinated areas to the extent that I’m starting to think the vaccine isn’t the silver bullet we’ve been sold is all.
Solid research there gallantman. Going to just award you your science PhD there now
A PhD in “Science”, nice one, Kim.
ROFL, what a fail..
It’s just that this particular monster needs a constant supply of silver bullets to keep it dead. Boosters til you die works perfectly, as each booster will kill more people, since the toxic effects of mRNA injections have been proven to be cumulative.
People forget that the thousands who’ve died from the injections need never worry about Sars02, ever again & the millions dealing with life-changing injuries from the same source will be too busy suffering to worry about it.
It’s undeniable that the vaccines have been highly-effective, in both killing & injuring, in addition to their ability to not provide protection.
It was February.
Either the spike in mid-February was Influenza or Influenza took a holiday, earlier this year, despite all those travel restrictions.
Which do you reckon, Kim?
Flu off to Florida?
Luckily you don’t do ‘science’ or you might be obliged to prove this hypothesis.
Neither do you Nigel.
Duh.
does spike translate as needle in certain vernaculars ?
It’s appalling to see Varadker, again, intimate that the injections prevent infection.
It’s utterly horrific to realise that the first children to die in this will be killed by the State.
Your kids first Leo .. oh, wait.
You can almost see the cogs turning behind his eyes, trying to phrase the next truth bomb softly for the Irish masses. An odious slug, fronting a corrupt broken regime.
Ah, freewheeling, it’s almost as if you think sworn enemies like FF & FG formed a coalition, the first between them, because their appeal was becoming more select.
Not true, they did it for us.
You’re being very harsh on slugs there.