85 thoughts on “Monday’s Papers

    1. Joe F

      I do not like the so called “Irish” Daily Mail. Tomorrow’s edition is a good example, they are infatuated with Meghan, Harry and all the rest of the Royal family. They are like a paper you would buy if you lived in middle England. Using the word “Irish” in their name is a bit of an insult to Irish people at this stage.
      I follow the circulation of the papers, they’re all falling, but thankfully the IDM is collapsing altogether. September’s sales were published the week before last, they are now selling just over 19,000 Monday to Friday, around 24,000 Saturday. Source is ABC and they can be found very easily.
      But good old Broadsheet insist on putting them at the top every time! Irish Mail on Sunday in same boat, selling under 47,000 copies compared to well over 100,000 not too long ago.

    2. ian-oG


      Had a guy call to the house the other day hawking the Indo. Seemed like a nice chap so we told him we already had a digital subscription so thanks but he was OK.

      He left us a copy of the Indo all the same which was great because I do a fair bit of art and crafts and the like and always need some additional cover for what surface I am using – I do have proper mats etc. but some newspaper is always welcome for any paint or glue soakage and I haven’t bought a physical newspaper in year.

      1. scottser

        i blame it on the smoking ban. god be with the days when you could while away an hour with a pint, a newspaper and a smoke.

  1. Otis Blue

    Micheál Martin proclaiming that ‘Ireland can lead from the front on climate change’ is just waffle and empty rhetoric.

    Our commitment to climate change will be measured by actions, not aspirations.

    1. ian-oG

      Decisive words!

      Dramatic pronouncements!

      ”Power” hand gestures as recommended by your body language coach!

      Appeal to something the kids are into!

      Great Job Taoiseach, now here’s that packet of Meanies you were asking for, we also stuck in a Dib Dap and a Capri Sun for you as well.

    2. Hobby

      Ever hear of Petra nova?
      It’s the only coal fired power station in the world that uses technology to capture and store any carbon released in the atmosphere
      It’s a carbon neutral coal fired power station that has this technology and the owner NRG. Energy has announced it has permanently closed it

      Google it and ask if the technology works and this was over 4 years then why are they not pursuing this
      Maybe like hydrogen power it’s a case of adapting existing industries to become carbon neutral is not as good as carbon taxes and producing more and more and using more and more resources to make far more money

      It’s also amazing that stored carbon can be used to create new building material new furniture and new footwear

  2. Cui Bono?

    Wow they’re really starting to pump out the climate propaganda now.

    Total control of all land, sea, air, all resources, everything. That’s what it’s all about under the guise of a climate emergency which has nothing to do with the average person.

    1. E'Matty

      Nothing is off the table when “saving the world”. It’s basically a licence to control any and every aspect of life on the planet. There is no individual or even community human rights that will not be vulnerable to being extinguished for “The greater good” as decided by the richest and most powerful in the world.

        1. E'Matty

          It’s ok Nige. We know you’re just a normal person who is terribly naive and innocent about the world he lives in. You still retain the child-like belief in benevolent elite power. The sheep are innocent.

          1. E'Matty

            Unlike your anthropogenic climate change theory, my intellect has been tried, tested and proven many times.

          2. Nigel

            What I like about your approach is that the evil global elites will be doing everything they can to halt, delay or capture action on climate change, and you’ll be cheering them on because anthropogenic climate change is an invention of evil global elites to rule the world via action on climate change.

          3. E'Matty

            “the evil global elites will be doing everything they can to halt, delay or capture action on climate change” Sure Nige. That must be why the global corporate media are so silent on climate change these days? Funny how the people you think are against the climate change movement are the same ones funding it.

          4. Nigel

            ‘these days’

            After thirty years of ignoring it, mocking it, and always having an oil-funded denier guy on for ‘balance,’ yeah. History only began yesterday.

            ‘Funny how the people you think are against the climate change movement are the same ones funding it’

            Maybe some ‘global elites’ don’t want the planet to burn because they live on it. Maybe some are engaged in an effort to capture and control the movement. Maybe some are just greenwashing. One thing’s for sure, the funding of the global climate movement by some ‘global elites’ isn’t a drop in the bucket compared to what they spent over thirty years denying climate change exists.

        2. Cui Bono?

          I’ve been learning about this agenda for 20 years Nigel. I’m not a spoofer. I’m just a middle aged man who cares about the world and I don’t like the psychopaths in power taking advantage of everyone.

          and before you resort to a strawman – no I don’t think they’re lizard people or satanists. They are just rich psychopaths, sociopaths and greedy people who own all the major companies and industries in every country.

          1. Nigel

            Me too. I didn’t tie my brain into an impenetrable knot whereby the people causing climate change and who have done everything to hide, supress, ignore, stop, delay, capture and greenwash actually invented climate change and are hiding, supressing, ignoring, delaying, capturing and greenwashing the actions their pretence has inspired. The people who causing climate change have been pretending for decades that it isn’t real, and your galaxy brain take is that the people causing climate change have been telling the truth all along, and it’s not real.

            If you’re not a spoofer I have no idea how you managed to paint yourself into this corner.

          2. Cui Bono?

            People don’t cause the climate to change Nigel. There are forces far greater than us mere humans that cause the earth to heat up or to cool down. Have you ever seen the sun or felt its rays on your skin? You should get out more.

          3. Nigel

            That’s what the people who have been causing climate change have been saying all along! Who, little old us? Destroy the environment? No way! We’re to too teeny and eeny in the grand scheme of things to cause global disaster! They’ll be delighted you agree with them.

            Also wear sunscreen because for a while there human activity managed to damage the ozone layer.

          4. Nigel

            ‘The other side?’ You mean fossil fuel funded denialism? We’ve been forced to listen and watch them for the sake of ‘balance’ and ‘being sensible’ since the eighties, or just outright trumpeted from right-wing platforms deploring commie hippes who want to force you to hug whales and wear sandals. Clearly they made a big impression on yourself. They’ve all been proved wrong, outright frauds, liars, industry PR spokesmen with a veneer of academia.

          5. Cui Bono?

            No Nigel, you’re talking about completely different people.

            You clearly haven’t done a proper investigation yet. There’s a lot of scientists who have great input, many are retired so can speak out freely.

            The problem is if you are what’s known as a “climate denier” your career is over. You get no funding, support, jobs etc. so we have a situation where the vast majority need to go along with it (even if they know it’s BS) while they have a mortgage to pay for and a family to raise.

          6. Nigel

            Well, yes, because the science is irrefutable, and ‘denying’ it is like denying gravity at this point. It’s either crankery or shilling for fossil fuel. If fossil fuel companies and right wing megalomaniacs both with billions to burn weren’t constantly driving denialism it wouldn’t even be a question, but they are. Paying attention to these people is a distraction and a waste of time, which is what they’re supposed to be. It’s worked all along, after all, which is why nothing was done and the action required becomes ever more drastic, and it’s somehow still working on you.

          7. Cui Bono?

            You’re far too close minded to realise that you’re wrong and have been fooled.

            “the science is irrefutable” until it is refuted but you deny it and accuse me of denying it.


          8. Nigel

            Oh no I’ve been fooled into supporting efforts to prioritise protecting and restoring the environment in order to safeguard our future on a healthier, thriving planet!

            I’ve seen you efforts at ‘refuting.’ To call that ‘refuting’ is pretty damn generous. It’s not really ‘refuting’ when you can’t even grasp the basics of the thing you’re ‘refuting.’

          9. Cui Bono?

            That’s great Nigel, good work. I support efforts to prioritise protecting and restoring the environment too.

            I’ve no idea what you’re going on about in your 2nd point. I have refuted nothing. Scientists have done this.

            I don’t think you even grasp the basics of what people like me are arguing against. You have your mind made up already without even knowing what we are saying.

          10. Cui Bono?

            You haven’t presented anything for me to refute.

            This is getting far too tedious for me.

            Have a good day.

  3. E'Matty

    3,500 Health workers absent from work due Covid. Up from 1,800 just over a week ago. One of the most vaccinated and masked groups in the country. Given vaccinated asymptomatic close contacts do not have to self isolate, and do not get PCR tested, the actual true case figure is likely significantly higher. But, the vaccines totally reduce infection levels they say. Lol.

    When the mRNA vaccines were being introduced, we were told one of their great advantages was that they could be rapidly updated (claims of 48 hrs), for any new emerging variants. Delta has been around over 8 months yet no sign of any update to the vaccines. We’re now going for boosters with vaccines still designed to treat the original Wuhan variant, not the dominant Delta variant. And still the believers keep on believing…

    1. paul

      so Covid is real and serious now and you’re okay with boosters, as long as they are the right ones? I can’t keep up.

      1. E'Matty

        Paul, nice strawman. Where did I ever say it wasn’t real? No. I still don’t see it as the deadly killer it’s portrayed as. With a 99%+ chance of survival and the fact it overwhelmingly impacts the very elderly with serious underlying conditions and not so much the healthy or young population, it’s threat is so obviously grotesquely exaggerated.

        You’re right. You can’t keep up. An intellectual deficit seems the likely reason for this. Where do I endorse boosters? I merely highlighted the fact your Masters had sold mRNA as this great new vaccine tech with its “unique selling point” being its alleged rapid adaptability to new variants. So, back to my original question. Why have they not bothered to update for the Delta variant? Why are they now administering boosters for the original Wuhan variant?

        1. paul

          I mistook you for someone else in that echo chamber. Thanks for the personal attack though, it’s very becoming.

          1. E'Matty

            You made a false accusation in a mocking tone and now you’re all upset because I questioned your intellect? You’re a tad too sensitive Paul. Maybe social media isn’t for you?

          2. just millie

            Paul, didn’t you know that E’Matty is phenomenally intelligent and wise? How could you have forgotten that he has an IQ surpassing all other humans? Is your intelligence so pitifully low that you can’t even comprehend how much more intelligent and educated he is when compared with us mortals? That he is clearly privy to the kinds of information that we could only pretend to dream of?

            Shame, Paul, for shame.

          3. Papi

            In the top 0.01 percentile? That intelligent? Wow.
            An intellect tried tested and proven to be superior?


          1. E'Matty

            Sure it is Nige. When one counts people dying with a positive PCR for a virus (and often not even that) where the virus may have played absolutely no role in their death, and those dying are invariably already dying due to one of the usual 5 big annual killers, yeah you’ll get some scary figures to frighten the herd. The true figure is likely a fraction of this.

          2. Nigel

            ‘Sure it is.’

            99%+ survival rate is a great selling point until you start to count what 1% not surviving means. Then you have to start waving your hands around a lot.

          3. Cui Bono?

            It’s more like 99.9% IF you get infected. Many of us will never even get infected in the first place.

            If you honestly believe the figure is 5 million you are just in denial at this stage. We know for a fact that we have counted people who died of other causes.

          4. E'Matty

            “99%+ survival rate is a great selling point until you start to count what 1% not surviving means” yeah, that’s why so put 99%+. You do understand what the plus sign means, right?

          1. Cui Bono?

            They would be from the tiny group of non elderly with serious underlying conditions.

            Did they die before or after their vaccine?

          2. Cui Bono?

            I would never blame the vaccine for death if it wasn’t the cause. It’s just important to know the facts.

            So did 50% of them die after their vaccine? This would be very high. The vax is meant to protect them. Its vital to find out their underlying health condition.

    2. Cui Bono?

      I think the believers will never stop believing. They’re forever lost. It’s the majority in the middle who just took it for an easier life to go on holidays, to pubs, and to avoid being the odd one out in the community. Hopefully many of them will snap out of it and reject the upcoming booster campaign. They all seem to be getting covid now anyway.

      1. E'Matty

        Yeah. The booster campaign when it moves to the general population could be the last opportunity to slow this agenda down. I don’t hold out much hope though. As they say now, it’s easier to fool the vaccinated than to convince them they’ve been fooled. People will opt for the “easy” option which invariably is to do as you’re told. Resisting authoritarianism requires effort and no small amount of courage. The sheep tend to avoid both. Stay in the flock, keep your head down, do as your told, avoid social exclusion at all cost. A pat on the head is easier to deal with then a boot on the face. They may also be trapped if these vaccines are waning and leaving behind an immune system MORE susceptible to negative outcomes. Regular booster or depleted and degraded natural immunity. Once on the vaccine train, getting off may not be so easy. And that’s ignoring the obvious loss of their pass and access to society.

        1. SOQ

          I was shot down yesterday for posting an article asking that exact question- what state are people’s immune systems going to be in after the vaccines have waned? And they are waning of course- rapidly. I think the big change will be when a ‘passport’ is 3 shots only, which is definitely on the cards.

          Then again, I never expected people to even run with it in the first place of course. The bizarre thing is- I have yet to hear a single person, including politicians, put forward one credible argument for passports.

          And yet it marches on- literally.

          1. SOQ


            The article included the words

            “Projections also now show that 30-49 year olds will have zero Covid / viral defence at best, or a form of vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome at worst, by the first week in January and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost that part of their immune system which deals with Covid-19 in the next 18 weeks.”

            It proposes that AT WORST some people may develop vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome- are you saying there is no such thing then?

          2. Nigel

            What part of ‘they are equating vaccine efficacy dropping with complete immune system failure based on absolutely nothing whatsoever’ did you not understand? And they’re calling it AIDS because it’s never too late for a bit of the old gay panic.

          3. SOQ

            So you ARE saying there is no such thing as vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome then?

            No antibody dependant enhancement either is it?

          4. Nigel

            My waffle is based on your waffle, yes. You presented your sources, I found them spurious, I told you why, now you’re acting as if I’m denying something undeniable when it barely rises to the level of ‘speculative at best.’

          5. Chris

            And I posted an academic study that noted a “significant drop” in T-cells. Nothing speculative about it.

          6. Nigel

            Nothing in the study about this amounting to AIDS, HIV or any sort of particularly serious risk to the immune system.

            – Why are people you so obsessed with the last word?

    3. Micko

      The 3,500 that are out – are they infected people or close contacts?

      The article is kinda vague about it

      1. E'Matty

        Vaccinated asymptomatic close contacts don’t have to self isolate or get a PCR test. Antigen testing for this group is only a very recent addition. Given the high proportion of healthcare workers fully vaccinated, it seems likely the vast majority of these 3,500 are positive cases and their symptomatic close contacts. I think we can safely say too that if there were many unvaccinated healthcare workers in the 3,500, it’d be the headline. No mention at all, which is very telling.

        The article is deliberately vague to conceal the fact this is extremely high for such a vaccinated population and given their asymptomatic close contacts may not even have been tested, yet they could be positive, the true case numbers are likely much higher. In such a vaccinated population, it really undermines the case for these vaccines. But just watch how they’ll use it to promote the booster campaign. I just find it amusing that there’s some on here who still haven’t realised and may even deny boosters for all is coming. This pandemic response has become almost boringly predictable of late.

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