51 thoughts on “Wednesday’s Papers

  1. Steph Pinker

    The enthusiasm for booster jabs is infectious, maybe it’s because they’re free; however, the subsequent healthcare required will be a different story and we’ll all have to pay for it.

    1. Chris

      It’s been priced in. The whole scenario is going to play out in real time, and we’re all going to have to deal with the consequences. *Priced in means it’ll be added to our national debt and the yoke will be used as an excuse to strip us all of private property.

      1. Tinytim

        It’s going to play out in real time?
        Damn, that’s too slow man, I like to live in the fast lane!! *rad hand gesture while departing this conversation via open airplane door*

        1. Chris

          Yes, play out in real time – a catastrophe on this level is more like something you’d find in a history book. Perhaps you’re better off in your naivety, for now at least.

    1. Micko

      Jeasus.

      I just skimmed that, but it’s so freaky and cult like.

      My favourite bit is when the all signed the document – withe the SAME feckin pen!

      And then the poor Pope went last… all those germs.

      Not very Covid safe eh? ;-)

        1. hmmm

          Nope. Breathing normally is healthy and err… normal.

          However, self-asphyxiation for no medical benefit whatsoever is another matter entirely.

        2. Joe F

          I would love to hear your thoughts on the scientific tests that have been carried out on the Medjugorje visionaries. Science doesn’t seem to have any answer for the way they behave during an apparition. Having a good at religion at any chance is just pathetic.

      1. Nigel

        Maybe it’s just me but pretending a massive problem isn’t real is more cult-like than, gasp, using the same pen.

        1. hmmm

          Here’s Nigel, the king of magical thinking, back to lecture us with his virtue.

          Is it cult like behavior to deny the reality of biological sex? Deny the value and benefit of earth’s carbon cycle? Or to keep pushing the failing narrative of the COVID pandemic nonsense with fake vaccines that don’t provide immunity so you have to change the definition of vaccine??

          Sure looks like it…

          1. Nigel

            1. Denies existence of trans people.
            2. Denies that there is too much CO2 in the atmosphere, heating up the planet
            3. Thinks vaccines are fake.
            4. Hates socialised medicine.
            5. Thinks ‘cult’ is a magic word that makes the person he’s attacking wrong.
            6. Nonetheless, associates the position of the person he’s attacking with ‘virtue.’
            7. THEY SIGNED WITH THE SAME PEN IT’S HALE-BOPP ALL OVER AGAIN.

    2. Tom J

      There’s no such thing as a one world religion, there are too many religions that’s the problem.

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I’m talking about the wiring of your brain that allows for it at all

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            religion ( obviously )
            maybe your wiring doesn’t allow for any rational conversation either ;)

          3. Papi

            Anthropological archaeology shows an almost pathological need for societies to have a religion/worship/fear type of scenario within themselves, It gives a tribal identity against others, an excuse for tragedy/bounty and an entity to ask for stuff, be that for one self or against others. it’s both unifying and divisive at the same time, depends

          4. Papi

            on which side you fall.

            (pressed send by mistake, no edit option)

            Religion is societally based, it’s a construct of otherness, not attributing events to one’s own actions and is all a bunch of hokum and snake oil and should be avoided and ridiculed for the idiocy it promotes. It, and Christianity, especially Catholicism, has done more damage, promoted more hatred and pain than can ever be justified by the comfort it has brought to the self righteous bigots that pretend it is real.

            Now, that was a rant, Karen.

          5. Papi

            Aw, shucks.

            It is tribalism though, at all levels of scale, within oneself (I feel guilty/justified for so and so), against your own tribe/society ( I judge you for so and so) and as a means of subjugating/changing/kicking the ever loving boop boop out of others (It’s rarely to help them, see missionaries).

            Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

          6. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I couldn’t agree more, I remember meeting an Irish fella in Kenya, he used to be a priest, when I asked him what happened, he said he didn’t do tribalism anymore.

      1. Joe F

        I think the problem is that some people in most religions are very fundamentalist. They have little or no tolerance towards people who don’t agree with them. No one has ever proved without doubt of the existence of a higher power but everyone should be shown respect when they genuinely believe in something – and not laughed at. Many of these people knocking Catholics say how one tracked these believers are, this is the height of hypocrisy, where are their tolerances? I am a practising Catholic and never will be ashamed to say so, but I totally respect anyone who doesn’t believe what I do.

        1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

          nice comment,
          I do respect your faith,
          I also believe the world would be a better place if mankind didn’t need it.

          1. Mr.T

            We like to think we dont need it – but the reality is most of our “western” morals are shaped largely by christianity.

            Spend time in Africa, Asia, or the Middle East and you’ll see that morals are totally different. In the Middle East its fine to subjugate women, in Asia and parts of Africa life is inconsequential and if someone dies oh well, people barely bat an eyelid. Animal abuse is rife in parts, and anti-homeless attitudes to the point where some will get beaten just for being homeless in plain sight.

            Things we take for granted as moral, or “human rights” are largely shaped by western Christianity. Were that not there, things could be very different.

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I disagree, for a start Judaism, Islam and Christianity have more in common than differences so it is bizarre to claim Christianity shapes the morals of the modern ” west “.
            I have lived in Nepal for a long time and spent a good chunk in Kenya too. I saw exactly the same human reflexes for kindness and empathy and the same reflex’s for violence and belittling the ” other ” that one finds where ever there are humans, nothing to do with Christianity in particular or any religion.
            My partner was brought up Hindu, he is shocked by the inherent violence in Christianity…to see with others eyes can be enlightening.
            My x husband brought up with no religion, he ran out of a Christmas service terrified by what he perceived to be scary cult behavior…and that wasn’t even a Catholic service with the ritual of up and down on your knees and mass…
            again to be seen with others eyes, you may be shocked spending time in the countries you suggested, but you can bet they would be too.

          3. Redundant Proofreaders Society

            @Mr. T
            Yes, and it makes religious studies really fascinating! Many farmers in East Africa believe that the christian god is responsible for bringing rain in a drought – which is interesting in the context of global warming. One common theme amongst all of the established and the tribal religions of the world is DEATH, and the various theories on ‘afterlife’. It’s easy to see why civilisations defended and defend their faith so strongly, oft violently. It’s actually lovely to witness a community or an individual find solace in their bereavement with the belief that their loved one lives on in spirit. Totally understandable also why people are content with no spiritual beliefs and questioning.

          4. bisted

            …morality and virtuousness stems from empathy, not religion…it predates religions…name one moral thing that a person of faith does that could not equally be done by a non believer?

          5. scottser

            mr t, those christian morals are at odds with the way the christian church has acted over the centuries. the church is only interested in its own dominance, not the welfare of the people it serves.

  2. Nigel

    Remember it’s all a cult. People who are willing to destroy the environment for the cult of profit are certainly willing to murder:

    https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/the-climate-summit-is-mostly-banal

    ‘I walked across the bridge over the River Clyde to a spot just opposite the convention center this afternoon, observing (and observed by) five long-necked swans who flew overhead. My destination was a small patch of riverbank, where some activists were preparing a memorial moment for environmental activists who had been killed in the year past—227 of them, defending tropical forests or the sites where some corporation thought a mine should go.’

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