When you propose that the unvaccinated should be banned from feeding themselves you are advocating for genocide. https://t.co/gYgrDlJJAr
— Michael (@HegKong) November 24, 2021
Yesterday.
Seanad Eireann.
Fianna Fáil Senator Gerry Horkan advocated banning the unjabbed from supermarkets and public transport.
Senator Horkan said:
“Here we are on 23 November and the month of December is traditionally the most important for the licensed trade and hospitality business, at between 2.5 and three times the normal month. It is not like closing in March, November or October. It is a significant month.
Of course we have to have balance and of course we have to make sure we are safe but it is so important that we encourage people. We must look at the figures and try to make sure everybody knows the vaccination system is very safe.
I know we got a lot of emails in response to something I said to the Leader on another day. They really work. If we look at the figures that came out yesterday, the 54% in ICU who are unvaccinated are generally younger and extremely healthy before they get Covid but they end up in ICU. They are healthy younger people who just did not think it would affect them.
Everybody who has been vaccinated and is in ICU has an underlying condition. We wish them all well. However, the point is that vaccines work.
As others have said, vaccine certificates should be required for entry into gyms and hairdressers. Why not introduce such a requirement for supermarkets and public transport? I know it is difficult to police some of these things, but really, if people want to participate in society, they need to be vaccinated.
If they do not want to participate in society, that is okay. They can stay at home; that is their business. However, unvaccinated people are putting themselves, their families, the rest of us and the economy at risk.
None of us wants a lockdown. It is in all of our hands to behave as best we can. We can socialise safely. If people are vaccinated, it is unlikely to do them too much harm if they do not have a pre-existing condition.
I ask the Leader to organise a proper discussion of this issue. New communities may not be as tuned into mainstream media, newspapers and radio. Let us ensure all are aware of the benefits of vaccination.”
Earlier: Urgent Medical Care
Meanwhile…
HSE's Paul Reid: "If you take the adult population, only about 7% haven't got two vaccines. That's a
highly disproportionate number of people we have in hospital –
for 7% of the adult population to represent close to 55% of our ICU capacity"— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) November 24, 2021
This morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8
My entry for ‘Win Nicks Esteem’ this week.
Enjoy :-)
As someone whos jabbed I would just not participate in this, just disgraceful. It appears people’s faith in the vaccine is now so poor they want to infringe on others’ rights.
However, the point is that vaccines work.
Ha ha ha.
You can’t fix stupid but you can vaccinate them.
That quip is in reference to this clown only btw.
I know we got a lot of emails in response to something I said to “the Leader” on another day.
I ask “the Leader” to organise a proper discussion of this issue.
Dont tell me he’s referring to MM?
The Leader is good the Leader is great we surrender our will as of this date!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1FxfR3lg6Q
Expert says ‘previously healthy people’ aged in their 30s are dying with virus weekly
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/1123/1262584-covid-experts/
Emmm…. Not in Ireland.
Was he talking about somewhere else? 1.1% of the people who’ve died from Covid in Ireland have been under 45.
Propaganda
Is Irish Covid different to other countries?
If ‘previously healthy people’ aged in their 30s are dying with virus is in other countries and not in Ireland is that because we are lucky? not counting them as Covid deaths? are genetically immune? have higher vaccination rates? have better social distancing?
My quip about other countries was sarcasm Cian.
The article is not specific about where he is talking about. But he is a consultant in Ireland and this false information is on the state broadcasters website.
The data is below for anyone to see.
61 people of unknown health status, under 45 have died in Ireland in a 20 month period is NOT “healthy people in their 30’s dying WEEKLY”
Propaganda
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/weeklyreportoncovid-19deathsreportedinireland/
Sorry, I misunderstood.
He is being disingenuous.
Nae bother chief ;)
And you’re fecking right he is.
A medical professional too…. who da thunk it?
I was thinking about that- we all place doctors on a pedestal because they heal the sick etc, but it is actually the ideal profession for someone with no empathy.
In other words, it is perfect for sociopaths, because other people’s suffering won’t bother them.
Does that include Marcus DeBrun.
That reminds me of some factoid I heard that surgeons are much more likely to be sociopaths.
add the FF senator to that list
Well the higher up you go in any organisation, the more likely you are to find them- the Pharmaceutical industry must be full of them.
Well, surely after all this mess is over and the Covid dust has settled, we can all agree that nobody should be placed a pedestal. That we are all flawed and tell exaggerated stories to get our points across.
Just because someone is an amazing doctor, doesn’t mean that they won’t lie or cheat or do anything else dishonest. He may even see this particular lie as a case of the ‘ends justify the means’ in a hope to get people vaccinated and save lives.
It’s when these exaggerations are co-opted by groups as a mechanism of the state and used as blatant propaganda, as a way to coerce, divide and make people fearful, THAT’S when it becomes an issue.
Individuals are awesome – groups are feckin terrifying.
I’m starting to think this is never going to be over
Stats for whos dying of COVID
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/vaccinationstatusweeklyreports/Death%20and%20Vaccination%20Report.pdf
Between April 1st and November 13th 2021
• 651 persons with a laboratory confirmed COVID-19 infection, were notified to the Health Protection
Surveillance Centre (HPSC) as having died due to COVID-19.
• 243/651 (37.3%) deaths were notified in persons who were not vaccinated or not registered as
vaccinated on Ireland’s national COVID-19 immunisation system (COVAX).
• 408/651 (62.7%) deaths were notified in persons who had received at least one dose of COVID-19
vaccine prior to death.
• 333/651 (51.2%) of the notified deaths had an epidemiological date1 14 days or more after
receiving both doses of a 2-dose regimen or 1 dose of a 1
FF Senators must have been drinking loony juice this week. This, and Ms. Late Late yesterday.
Let Fianna Fáil Senator Gerry Horkan himself man at least one of his barricades.
See how he gets on, pay him the same as those he expects to be standing(hiding) behind enforcing his great idea.
It is like a competition to make yourself the biggest gobsheen up there some days.
A Bank Holiday for the LL toy show the other day( not Gerry’s to claim), Starve the non compliant today- if he wasn’t serious I would be thinking hall’s pictorial weekly must be back on air.
Go on Gerry – our very own Pritti Patel.
Would love to hear himself and P(r)at Kenny putting their heads together to solve this mess.
—-head
…hmmm, it appears to me that horkan might be suffering from a common underlying condition shared by most irish politicians.
A contrariwise digestive system!
Ban them from SuperMacs.
Jaysus, remind us why we kept the Seanad?
…to make the rest of our kakistocracy look good.
gravy school
will this also apply to those waiting on their booster, after all they are unvaccinated too
Good point, Janet!
Just waiting for the suggestion of concentration camps for the unvaccinated, it’s in the post…
Horkan is the other of the coin to the looney anti-vaxxers.
He’s the logical conclusion of your camp- so own it.
A breakdown of VAERS data, releating batch numbers to adverse reactions.
“70% of the batches were harmless – producing only one adverse reaction report each.
80% of the batches produced only 1 or 2 adverse reaction reports. So the vast majority of the batches were harmless.
However, a very distinct and significant anomaly appeared.
1 in 200 (0.5%) of the batches was found to be between 1000 and 5000 times more toxic than the average batch, and accounted for 70% of all of the adverse reactions, and 70% of all of the deaths
1 in 20 (5%) of the batches accounted for 90% of the adverse reactions and deaths.”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6xIYPZBkydsu/
I really should pay more attention to who is in the Seanad – yet another unknown name to me pops the head up to utter complete and utter scutther …