What Do You Want, A Medal?

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Fintan O’Toole suggests giving every child in Ireland a medal for their resiliance during the rona

Yes.

This morning.

Tough on the unjabbed.

Loves the chiselers.

Via Fintan O’Toole in The Irish Times:

‘…it’s been hard for children. It has stayed hard for what is, from a child’s perspective, a very long time. And we adults don’t have a good answer to every kid’s question: are we there yet? We keep telling them that we nearly are and then the road becomes long and winding again.

There’s a word we adults like to use about kids because it makes us feel better: resilient. It keeps the wolf of anxiety from our own doors, stops us worrying too much about them.

It is true: kids are durable creatures. What choice do they have after all? And learning to be mentally tough is, in an often harsh world, a necessary survival skill.

But being resilient doesn’t mean not finding it hard going. Or not needing to be thanked and reassured and made much of.

I actually think, mad as it sounds, that the State should give every child in Ireland a medal. Just a token, a tangible gesture, a touchstone of collective recognition, a reminder to the rest of us that the experiences of children are too often left out of the narrative of these times..’

Which comes first, the medal or the jab?

Only you can decide

This Christmas we should focus on what children give us (Fintan O’Toole, Irish Times)

Previously: We Don’t Know Ourselves

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37 thoughts on “What Do You Want, A Medal?

  1. Fergalito

    It’s a stupid idea. Is he that stuck for an article?

    Far more meaningful to adhere to what was set out in the Proclamation of Independence – we were all children once and some are living with the scars of a childhood destroyed by the State or its destruction facilitated by the State:-

    “The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past.”

  2. Broadbag

    ”mad as it sounds” yes, it is mad, stop it. Guess what, it’s poo for everybody but to different extents and in different ways, let’s stop trying to arbitrarily pick a huge group and say they’ve sacrificed the most, it’s another pointless subset of misery porn.

  3. Gabby

    Emeritus Professor of Irish History, John A. Murphy, has explained that the reference to “all the children of the nation” in the Proclamation is a figurative not literal expression.

    1. Fergalito

      Thanks. I understand that it’s not literal, the point being that all citizens of the State were children and some children who are now adults but figuratively children were treated poorly by the State (to put it mildly) as children, literally and also figuratively as children of the nation.

  4. Paulus

    Ah go easy on Fintan O’Toolery*
    And don’t be reacting so cruelly.
    He may-be an antique
    But his tongue’s in his cheek
    This is nothing more than tomfoolery.

    *Special Artistic licence invoked here.

  5. Haroo

    It is a whacky idea.

    But not more so than Nazis implementing lockdowns to destroy the Irish pub, the anti-vaxers proclaiming to be freedom fighters, 5G vaccine programmes, the Illuminati trying to regulate population growth or, of course, Qanon.

    In fact I have read numerous comments on here of the “resistance” insisting pubs and hospitality establishments should be thanking them… Maybe all the dour comments are because the freedom fighters/space cadets want their own medal.

    1. E'Matty

      Nah, no medals sought. We’d just like to avoid human society marching blindly and enthusiastically into the Digital Prison being constructed around the globe today. Oh, you’re one of those “Power is benevolent” types, are you?

      1. Haroo

        Given your posts and “ideas” I think you contruct your own digital prison by reading unproven and unsubstantiated fictional fairytales on the internet all the live long day.

        Never said power was benevolent. Never said anything about power. But why don’t you provide some fact to back up your fiction.

        1. E'Matty

          OK, so do you accept that we are entering what is known as the “Fourth Industrial Revolution”? Second, do you accept that there is a global agenda being pursued by the WEF called the Great Reset? We’ll start there.

          1. Haroo

            Whatever terms you borrowed/learned from conspiracy websites you will need to outline. I have read the “great reset” to mean various things. Some insane bishop or something was talking about it but it has also been used to describe the green tech revolution and investments. In terms of next ages such as your Fourth Industrial Revolution, many abound.

            You have just mentioned vague ideas and theories. We do not start from a premise or theory without explicitly outlining what the premise is and offering some form of evidence for those beliefs.

            But no, I will not just start from your fantasy. You are like the Christians and their Bible. We all have to start from the premise that the Bible is fact and we go from there.

  6. AC

    What rubbish. Cements how disconnected this guy is. Kids have everyone gets a medal a lot… They get a great kick out of it for less then 5 minutes and they don’t care about it after that.

    1. Johnny 'Diego' Keenan

      I agree with Fintan The Tool.

      Children deserve to be rewarded for having absolutely no choice in what goes into their little arms.
      However they should be rewarded.
      Im not in favour of the great Irish traditional GAA model, ‘All Praise and No Pay’.
      I prefer the Corporate business model that banks and IT scum use, when getting innocent children to sell their great products. Usually mortgages to young couples who can’t afford to make ends meet, let alone have children.

      The real question is how much is your children vaccine worth?
      Financially.
      Get with the programme.
      It’s all about The Binjamins Baby!

      Go on ya might aswell put a price on it.
      Yer always going on how great yer children are. So now you have a real opportunity to get a few bob for them.

      Give me something to go on here I’m looking to set up a little sideline agency.

      Jobs for Jabs!

  7. Clampers Outside

    Children are not resilient, they are malleable.

    Resilience is the capacity to return to a prior state. A child is in development and has not yet reached full development, a state of continuity. That is, there is no condition for a child to return to. If they returned to a prior state they would be regressing their development.

    This I’ve heard or read from many councillors and psychologists.

    They are malleable in that their development is changed, re-routed, affected. Some more so than others, but those less so cannot be described as resilient.

    And some people think Fintan a polymath… Ffs, get a grip.

    1. Cian

      Resilience is the psychological quality that allows some people to be knocked down by the adversities of life and come back at least as strong as before. Rather than letting difficulties, traumatic events, or failure overcome them and drain their resolve, highly resilient people find a way to change course, emotionally heal, and continue moving toward their goals.
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/basics/resilience

      1. Clampers Outside

        +1 All very good.
        That’s the adult bit.

        Now maybe you should read more of that, say the bits about how “early environment and life circumstances” can effect resilience.
        In particular the short piece mentions gene expression in those predisposed to resilience genetically.

      1. Haroo

        So you agree with Fintan then, Bodger. Because he said the same thing in the article you posted. You even highlighted it.

        “There’s a word we adults like to use about kids because it makes us feel better: resilient. It keeps the wolf of anxiety from our own doors, stops us worrying too much about them.”

    1. Fergalito

      The thing kids need most to be themselves is security and stability. A roof over their heads, food in their bellies and a parent or parents who are loving and caring. They’ll learn resilience out in the playground. Kids want to go to school, want to play with their friends and any coping with Covid is (or should) be done by their Mams and/or Dads.

      I’m not going to put this poo on my kids.

    2. Bignoting drongo

      I’d say deep down it’s because they already know the adult world is all a big con and let-down really Janet
      I was coaching my teenager on adulting today
      I let him call one of the ‘pillar’ banks to try to get a debit card for himself.
      After about an hour, they hung up on him
      Didn’t even answer the phone
      Welcome to the real world of adulting kid.
      The other night I even let him drink some beer.
      Isn’t it great?

    3. Ian - oG

      100% Janet.

      Kid shouldn’t have to be resilient, people who say that are morons who haven’t a clue.

      Kids are kids, some express upset and trauma, some do not, all feel it to some degree.

      The same people who promote that thinking are probably the same people who think homeless shelters are grand and if you want a house just ask your parents for some cash.

  8. D-troll

    Not sure about the medal idea. but i feel kids have had it the worst of all age groups. they dont have strong lobby groups behind them. people want schools closed to stop spread yet they think pubs should remain open. ludicrious.

    closing schools and kids sports/activities during the pandemic was imo the biggest and maybe the only mistake society made.

  9. Bignoting drongo

    Fintan O’Toole is a really useful tool for the establishment to be fair.
    He’s one of the most advanced prototypes.

  10. gorgi

    Cowards put children first, so they can hide behind them. Fintan, I always taught you a bit of a clown. but now you’re the head clown of Clownsville, with a special clown booster shot.

  11. K. Cavan

    Yes, it does sound quite, quite mad. That’s how you know it’s Fintan, really. His leaps of “logic” resemble an obese person, gingerly making their way across a stream via some stepping stones. Oooh, aaahh, go the observers, as he teeters and almost falls in but worry not, the water is only 4 inches deep.
    Welcome to Fintan’s world.
    Lecture about Brexit at 3pm.

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