Dr Anne O’ Connor, Chief Operations Officer, HSE
Anne O’Connor, the @HSELive COO said they believe that on average there is a 12% absentee rate among healthcare staff which would amount to between 14,000 and 15,000 who are currently off work.
— Morning Ireland (@morningireland) January 7, 2022
This morning.
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, she said the HSE is not doing a “blanket shutting up” of services but has advised hospital sites to pull back where they need to.
Ms O’Connor said there will be some “inability” to do some scheduled work and some people will be left waiting as a result.
“There are certain things we have to do. We can’t just shut up, we have to respond to emergencies and people who are very sick people, and people with time dependent care needs, people with cancer surgeries, cardiac procedures etc.,” she said.
She said Covid-19 is impacting all of their services, not just hospitals and staff have to be redeployed to into areas where they are needed such as emergency departments and residential care.
HSE expects challenging week amid Covid case increase (RTE)
51% of those in ICU are unvaccinated. Their stupid is strong.
Those kind of statements raise questions
Have you any evidence to back up the claim?
Are they unvaccinated because they are too old and frail to get vaccinated?
If there was no vaccine would there be a 20 times increase in ICU demand (given 95% of the eligible population are vaccinated)?
The whole disproportionate ICU data sounds like another government lie in a long list of lies. Unless they’re willing to offer the full range of data around these claims they should be taken with a large pinch of salt
Data about vaccinated vs unvaccinated ICU for the last few months. The unvaccinated have outnumbered the vaccinated every single week since August.
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1479143361793695751
And yes, if there was no vaccination the demand for ICU would jump 10-fold (i.e. the 40 vaccinated + 46 unvaccinated would likely be closer to 400 + 46).
That graph just shows vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Without further drilling down into details of the unvaccinated ie age/health status, it’s just repeats what the OP posted. I’m not questioning the given data but without the details it’s pretty useless.
Also the 10 fold claim is just wild speculation. If the same was applied to cases we would be looking at 2.5 million cases per day in a country of 5 million. It’s nonsense.
A lot of the ‘science’ from the start has been based from the same flawed logic. We have x amount of cases per day, masks are mandated and cases go up. The claim is that they would have been even higher had they not been mandated. We have x cases then vaccines have been given to most of the population and the cases climb higher.
If they want to release vital data, ICU and death comparisons to the previous 5 years would be helpful. That wont be released as it would show no rise in deaths or hospitalizations despite this ‘deadly’ pandemic were going through
You literally asked “Have you any evidence to back up the claim?”
I provided evidence.
You followed up with ” I’m not questioning the given data”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kali is not questioning the data– merely asking for more details.
We know that most in ICU were already in poor health and are what is regarded as high risk. The medical advice for most of those people would have been not to take those vaccines and that is more common than some may think. Anyone on blood thinners like warfarin for example would be already prone to blood clots.
So yes, while the figures may be accurate, they are not the full story.
you keep saying this but offer no proof.
The only people I can see that can’t get the full vaccine is those that had a bad reaction to the first dose.
You can get the vaccine if you are on Warfarin
e.g.
Yes, patients who are on anticoagulants including Warfarin, Heparin, Low molecular weight heparin and the Direct oral anticoagulants (Apixaban/Eliquis, Dabigatran/Pradaxa, Edoxaban/Lixiana, Rivaroxaban/Xarelto) can receive the COVID19 vaccine by intramuscular injection.
http:\\www.stjames.ie\media\Administration%2520of%2520the%2520IM%2520COVID%252019%2520vaccine%2520to%2520people%2520on%2520anticoagulation%2520therapy.pdf
So what? Unvaccinated as a group have been consistently more vulnerable to covid across both variants, however you break things down. Whatever your age/health status, you’re better off vaccinated where possible.
‘That wont be released as it would show no rise in deaths or hospitalizations despite this ‘deadly’ pandemic were going through’
How can you possibly know this? Or are you guessing that if the majority of hospitalisations for the pandemic have been covid related with procedures and operations postponed or canceled, the figures will sort of roughly balance out with the preceeding period? If you ignore all the deaths attributed to covid, covid is not a deadly pandemic, yeah?
No dead people in the streets.
Worst Pandemic Ever!!
No dancing skeletons.
Worse pandemic ever!
Endless Concern Shrilling…
Worst Pandemic Ever!!
How dare you suggest the dancing skeletons are fake!
Yadda yadda yadda. You’re boring.
Ireland doesn’t operate in a vacuum. There is plenty of international data if you don’t like the DoH data
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/has-covid-vaccine-efficacy-turned
There’s some international data for you.
If only Mehole and Leo’s Pfizer Pfriend Conor was still around to “interpret” the data for them!
These are vital questions Kali and the fact that we do not have these answers raises even more questions. I suspect (based on their refusal to share this data and one source from Beaumont hospital) that the unvaxxed cases are too sick to get the vaccine in the first place and also mixed in with nosocomial infections (92% in Beaumont).
Also the data that Cian and Co are sharing is from July 26th where only 54% of the population was fully vaccinated. They still think we’re dealing with the same virus we thought we had in March 2020 so they’re suffering from major cognitive dissonance and denial at this stage.
The HSE, UK gov, CDC in the US, and most governments around the world have all pulled the same trick of misleading the public with statistics by sharing an average over many months of vaxxed vs unvaxxed including months were vaccination hadn’t been fully rolled out.
‘I suspect’
Guesswork and made-up conclusions, well done.
what else can we do when the official bodies are not sharing the data we need to know?
Ignore the rest of what I said too because you know deep down it’s true – you have been fooled.
Why do you even need an excuse?
The HSE data in the tweet above is up to the 4th Jan 2022.
It is showing a week-by-week breakdown for the last 6 months.
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1479143361793695751
As I’ve already stated, the partial data used in the graph doesn’t paint the whole picture. I’m not disagreeing with the figures in the chart but a breakdown by age would be helpful. In 2020 when the daily/weekly tally was given out for deaths it included ages. When the question was raised as to why the mean age of the covid deaths was greater than the average life expectancy the ages were held back in regular reporting.
The same applies to the unvaccinated ICU numbers. Are they all young and otherwise healthy that have chosen not to get vaccinated or are we talking about individuals in nursing homes that have undergone a risk benefit appraisal and have been advised against getting the vaccine
Surgeries were operations in my day. Californi-yay!
It’s not an absentee rate, it’s an absence rate.
Groups like IBEC using phrases like absenteeism is a deliberate attempt to portray workers who are close contacts and quarantining as scamming days off, rather than doing the right thing by helping to stop the spread of a highly contagious disease.
The close contact idiom is a scam. If you have no symptoms – go to work.