From top: Dr. Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer and HSE CEO Paul Reid

This morning.

Via Fergal Bowers:

The Health Service Executive and the Department of Health have been unable to provide data on the number of patients with Covid-19 in hospital and the number admitted for other reasons who happen to test positive while in hospital.

Following a request from RTÉ News to the HSE for this information, the HSE directed the query to the Department of Health.

The HSE said that as this information is reported to National Public Health Emergency Team, the query needed to go to that department.

Today, the Department said that due the current Covid-19 case volumes and the emergence of the Omicron variant, the Health Protection Surveillance Centre is unable to provide a response at this time.

Anyone?

No data available on Covid hospital admissions (RTE)

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61 thoughts on “Admit Nothing

  1. GiggidyGoo

    They can’t even circle the wagons properly.
    Either the figures are recorded, or they are not. If they are, then Ken Foxe might have better luck than RTE. If they aren’t then we are being fed fairytales.

    1. Janet, dreams of sleep

      the biggest fairy tale of all is that these fuppers are in it for anything except self interest

      1. SOQ

        Widow- He died of natural causes.
        Doctor- You pushed him off the top of a building?
        Widow- Gravity is natural.
        Doctor- Ok- I’ll put it down as COVID then.

        Seriously- how many suspicious deaths have been nicely covered up by this medical fraud?

          1. Ben

            Seems the UK is on track to be the First Nation in the northern hemisphere that will exit the COVID pandemic
            If correct you can blame the British government whose mass vaccine campaign started before the EU
            But brexit Boris can claim success
            The EU are I would say as sick as parrots

    2. johnny

      ..would you even understand the data.
      what breakdown are you expecting between then,and given that,what does it tell you ?

        1. johnny

          .i go slow for you,take your time answering.

          you appear ‘upset’ that this data you were going rely on was not at hand

          indicating somthin is wrong.

          you refer to ‘fairytales’ IF this data is not forthcoming now

          the data is a number-what number are you ‘hoping’ for ?

          its just math.

          1. johnny

            stop pretending you have a high IQ,you dont even know nor understand the tech behind Messenger RNA-duh.

      1. Mr.T

        Your lack of coherency aside, I think you mean what result are we expecting from this data release?

        If so, the expectation is that Tony Holohan or Paul Reid(?) or Leo V were lying about the figures of “incidental” covid admissions, because the 3 figures given were vastly different, ranging from 5% at the low end, to 40-50% at the higher end. Someone is telling fibs

        1. SOQ

          Genuine question- is Paul Reid the highest paid public or civil servant in the country?

          HOW did he have negotiate such a remuneration?

          1. johnny

            ..since moving here from NI have you contributed more in TAX than you have received from the republic in hand outs…..
            are you currently contributing or a burden upon the free irish state ?

          2. johnny

            …are you in ANY way contributing to Pauls salary,or are you just bored on the sofa again,evey day,every night…on here,all the time,its no life,go home man all you do is complain all day and nite about ROI.

          3. SOQ

            Just start at the top of this thread and look at every single comment you have posted johnny- you are clearly an unhappy person.

          4. johnny

            do you even know what the NTMA is ?

            …to answer your ‘genuine’ question over Pauls salary,no the ceo at NTMA does,what you hitting these days,sfa?

            why you here if you hate the place,whats with demonizing our public servants about?

          5. SOQ

            Paul Reid’s salary is over four times that of a TD and over twice of the Taoiseach- that is obscene.

            And if you are based in the NYC then surely YOUR public servants are also based there? That is where you pay your taxes is it not?

          6. Johnny

            Where do you pay yours,what’s with the cloak and dagger,are you still living in Tallaght,catching buses or not ?

      2. K.Cavan

        Well, johnny, two sets of numbers? I think describing that as “data” is like calling your back yard a field, so interpreting what is by far the most important piece of information, ie how many people did the virus actually kill?, would be fairly easy. That’s the real reason it’s not available, n’est pas?

  2. Kim Cardassian

    Country is in a partial lockdown and the clowns behind the scenes can’t ever provide the data to justified the continued restrictions

      1. Gavin

        Dont think you need qualifications to read data. And sure even if you did wouldn’t it be nice to have it, so that the people with “qualifications” can read it.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          It’s already had a post removed that gave away his little secret to his other bb username. You have to be quick sometimes.

  3. Zaccone

    Tony Holohan was claiming the figure is 5%, when the data from the UK and US is publicly accessible and is 40-60%. Theres no way Ireland is that much of an extreme outlier.

    NPHET definitely have the data for Ireland, theres no way they wouldn’t. Its really telling that they’re trying to delay releasing it.

    Someone needs to get FOI’ing here.

    1. E'Matty

      They won’t release accurate data on this because it will undermine their whole “The unvaccinated are clogging up ICU” narrative. It’s all the Covidian supporting a vaccine pass society have left to cling to at this stage. Omicron has been wonderful at exploding so much of their hysteria driven narratives.

  4. goldenbrown

    LOL

    because any number will do in politics

    I’ll tell ya the numbers I know…

    people in my domain I’m aware of who’ve had:
    – C19 very early doors when people were looking for schoolkids heads on Joe Duffy line, before any of the current machinations or naming conventions or war office existed = 4 (moi included)
    – C19 Delta = 7
    – C19 Omicron = 9
    – both/all of the above = 4
    – vaccine x1 JJ = 11
    – vaccine x2 mrna etc/mixture = 16
    – 3rd booster = 16
    – unvaccinated = 2 (not me I had JJ)
    – hospitalised = 3 (2 of those were out of the 4 that got it early doors who were lifted by ambulance lads in their hazmat suits only to sit outside Vincent’s A&E for observation for a few hours when it was all nuclear fallout panicpants, they weren’t in the hospital physically atall) and 1 fella who has a history of pulmonary problems was admitted for a week thankfully ok

    so in all of that, in my experience, just 1x person was admitted to hospital, someone with an underlying condition

    I guess I’m just lucky

    I’m not pro or anti anything and I don’t know if there is any plot or goal behind this but it is clear to me that the pandemic has been absolutely amplified, propagandised, leveraged for political purposes and commercialised

    1. K.Cavan

      If there was an actual pandemic at any point in the last two or two hundred years, it wouldn’t have needed a 24/7 publicity campaign. We mostly live in cities, we would’ve seen it, up & down our streets. We’ve had two ambulance call-outs on our suburban street over the last two years, a fall & a heart attack, sadly the latter was fatal & we lost another of our aging first generation. That might’ve been a vaccine-induced event but there’s been no Covid fatalities.
      The “Famine” still reigns supreme, there was no Covid Pandemic in Ireland.

  5. scottser

    i have to say lads and lasses, youse are a bunch of crabby bastards today. if you kids can’t play nice, nobody gets ice cream.

  6. f_lawless

    Rinse and repeat

    Remember back in July 2021 Bowers when asked asked the same question and got the same response. Of course even back then the need for clarification was more than a year overdue. I think Bowers was only prompted to ask for it at that point time because Tony Canavan, CEO of the Saolta Hosptial Group in Ireland, had stated a few days prior on RTE’s Morning Ireland that “in most cases, people who are admitted to our hospitals, nearly all of the cases in fact, they are being admitted for other clinical reasons not to do with Covid-19.”

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1419596488037085185
    July 2021:
    “RTÉ News has also requested information from the HSE, on the number of patients who are admitted to hospital, due to Covid-19 complications, compared to those who test positive, after being admitted for other reasons but so far, no data has been forthcoming.”

    1. SOQ

      It is either fraudulence or malfeasance and I am not sure which is worse.

      I find it hard to believe that something so important as the distinction between ‘from’ and ‘with’ was not noted, in which case it is a deliberate cover up.

      If on the other hand they never bothered to record such, given the severity of the situation, incompetent doesn’t even begin to describe the HSE management.

      1. f_lawless

        I imagine that those in the know within the Irish government and health authorities have convinced themselves all the deception is for “the greater good”. They’re acting under the assumption that the move to a new era of a global biosecurity state is set to be permanent due to an increased threat of future acts of bioterrorism. The scope of this goes beyond the current threat of SARS-Cov-2, therefore in order to make the transition smoother, the Covid data can be massaged to fit the policy, if needs be.

        But the question is, just what kind of society are we creating in the name of “keeping people safe”? Are we sacrificing much of the freedoms that make life worth living? Who are the Irish authorities aligning themselves with as they usher us into this new era of ubiquitous surveillance, medical coercion, etc? They way I interpret it, they’re aligning with the same predatory elite class who are responsible for manufacturing the elevated bioterrorist threat.

        1. Nigel

          ‘But the question is, just what kind of society are we creating in the name of “keeping people safe”?’

          A society where we treat people with disabilities or vulnerabilities as equal members of society rather than disposable in name of ‘individual freedoms,’ which are often defined in the most trivial and pontless ways?

        2. SOQ

          If you embezzled a million Euros and then claimed it was for the poor, you would not get a reduction in your sentence.

          So it doesn’t matter how lofty they think their intentions are, given the damage and harm done, if they are found guilty of fraud then they should be jailed- and hopefully, they will be.

  7. K.Cavan

    The four endemic Coronaviruses all mutated to be extremely infectious & mild colds, because a virus has only one function, to reproduce. Natural selection did the rest.
    It’s interesting that all four probably emerged about 1,000 years ago but there is no historical record of the “pandemics” they caused, though there are records of the bacterial Plague of Justinian, from the 540’s. They didn’t have a neurotic, dishonest, hysterical media back then, of course.

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