The EU is set to propose broad new sanctions on Russia, including a ban on coal imports and further action against oligarchs https://t.co/Y7CbONgnbg
— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) April 5, 2022
BREAKING: The EU is planning to propose a mandatory phaseout on coal imports from Russia in a direct response to reports of apparent war crimes by Russian forces in Ukraine https://t.co/hwUqyQuLT1 pic.twitter.com/QHlYLGnenD
— Bloomberg Quicktake (@Quicktake) April 5, 2022
This morning.
To the bogs.
That’ll teach them
Europe to Propose Fresh Sanctions on Russia (Wall Street Journal)
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Will they let us use our bogs
Self sufficiency does not seem to be a priority for EU/Ireland
Can’t build on your land
Can’t fish your waters
Pulling back on some of the best agricultural land and systems in the world .
Got rid of manufacturing
And of course not utilising our own fuel
Really trying to figure out what their plan is other than more tax
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
Bogs? Fish? Can’t own what there’s almost nothing left of. Go on, feck them up some more, then see how happy you are.
Jesus Nigel apparently Ireland has 50% of the raised bog land in Europe
Germany exports a thing called brown coal which is mined peat not coal and environmentally its more damaging than our digging of raised bogs
As for the fish we only can fish 5% of our fish in our waters
Nigel have you ever visited rural Ireland or are you just coding us
How ridicules you sound
That’s a reflection of how little European bogland is left, not an indication that we have loads. Fish stocks have crashed, and are not recovering, because of overfishing, which is still ongoing. Rural and coastal Ireland are suffring because these things have been ignored and allowed to happen.
Yes, Nigel, fish stocks have been depleted by over-fishing, while our coastal communities have not so much suffered as been snuffed out by the policies of the EU, indeed, the planet has been raped. Meanwhile, you suggest solutions that have come directly from the minds of those who have amassed vast, meaningless fortunes from that abuse & express solidarity with the social engineering projects they’ve designed to keep us divided across racial, gender & social lines, while they hoover up the remaining resources to add another million or two to their already bloated tax-haven bank accounts.
Liar. You’re an explicit shill for the forces destroying the environment, a reactionary spreader of fear, uncertaintly and doubt.
??? Who’s fault is it that supertrawlers can fish to their hearts content in irish waters, but irish fishermen cannot?
Most of that fish ends up as pet food also for Dutch export market – thank god for the EU eh?
Yes, it’s an atrocious situation, deliberate ecologocal destruction for profit, that’s what I’m saying.
Notice Nigel has not got the reply facility on his posts
Quick call Elon Musk.
They’ll never be happy about anything no matter what they own.
Because mammy and lack of hugs or some such bollicks.
What are you trying to say, Ian? Do you even know? Nobody else does.
You really need to ponder the ultimate destination of the train of thought the media has set you on, Nigel & give serious consideration to making the ultimate sacrifice to preserve our bogs & fish, lest you further damage the Planet, this forum & it’s members’ sanity, with your continued existence.
Did you just tell me to go kill myself?
I own nothing but the clothes on my back, and I’m very happy.
Just remember that all that was done by FFFG, with a little help from their friends.
Usually it’s an Irish interpretation of the rules that leaves us in this situation.
Regarding housing in the countryside, well all our planners are trained in GB which is highly urbanised, and of course landowners are few and wealthy – they don’t want the plebs living anywhere in sight. Thus the plebs have to be squashed into towns and cities.
Our planners take GB planning as the best there is (i.e. the only planning they know about) and then apply it to a country with a huge non-urban population.
This sort of lack of thinking is rife across the public service.
In the private sector are slightly different – there it’s mostly US rules that they try to apply.
But the same lack of independent analysis applies in all cases.
Lies.
Technological University Dublin
TU835 BSc in Spatial Planning & Environmental Management (4 year undergraduate)
TU225 MSc Spatial Planning (2.5 year part-time postgraduate)
University College Dublin
Master of Regional and Urban Planning (MRUP) – 2-year course
Accelerated 3 year+1 year degree combining: BSc City Planning & Environmental Policy and MRUP Accelerated
University College Cork
Masters in Planning and Sustainable Development – MPlan – 2-year course
You’ve exposed the problem you have very succinctly there, Cian, your naive trust in authority.
Just because courses exist doesn’t mean they are teaching the right things, in fact, since our universities are full of mentally ill people wasting taxpayers money on Grievance Studies courses, I doubt very much if our problems will be sorted by anything coming out of third level institutions, any time soon.
If anything, the divisive bullcrap studied in most of those corrupted, authoritarian institutes will only create more problems.
You’re exposing your complete ignorance. Irish planners are educated in Ireland, work in Ireland, and deal with Irish planning issues. They have nothing to do with “GB” or any of their planning. How can an Irish person even refer to that country as Great Britain? Sorry I forgot, you’re not Irish.
‘squashed into towns and cities’
The call it bungalow blight for a reason. Local authorites ignoring planners has been the problem.
I’m sure, however, Nigel, that you must, in fact, support the expansion of urban & rural development. Where are we going to put all the illegal immigrants that the removal of our borders has encouraged to abandon their homelands, otherwise?
Our rising population is entirely due to immigration, the Irish having reduced their own birthrate to sustainable levels, some time ago. This natural reaction to population pressure does not suit your wealthy icons, however, so mass immigration is what they promote, to keep the Capitalist Ponzi Scheme on the go & I’m sure you enthusiastically support that influx, otherwise you’d be a nazi racist ratlicker.
Properlly planned low-rise high-denstity towns and cities would be entirely sufficent to handle our growing population. Urban sprawl, one-off rural housing and inner-city neglect will not. If you have a problem with population movements have a word with your boy Putin, he’s caused a fair bit of it over the years, and with climate change, which is driving even more.
…I’m sure your girl crooked Hillary could give a master class in people displacement…Putin would be joining a very long queue if he were cited for war crimes…sleepy Joe would have a long list to take into consideration…
There’s almost nothing left in the bogs, and depleting them even further will create floods and destroy biodiversity essential to life, the seas are also almost depleted and destroyed by overfishing, and our agriculture is abosessed with cattle – all of these have been flagged as problems for decades, don;t complain about the inevitable effects of not changing policies, complain about the reluctance to change policies.
It all makes sense
Import all your energy and plant trees and you are carbon neutral
Meanwhile with all the transport it’s more damaging to the climate
Let’s face it Ryan air is carbon neutral but a guy burning turf is not
It’s all a con and all those carbon taxes keeps government in clover
And all the turf we import soaked in gasoline in the form of starter logs for your fire
And as for compost it’s imported from Russia
+1
And we’re an “anti-nuclear” country…..
But we’re building a pipeline from France to buy their nuclear produced energy.
Bananas!
W already get nuclear-produced “radioactive” electricity from the UK…
Yes, Ireland should leave the EU and go back to the glory days of subsistence agriculture and being a world-leader in turf production – jesus wept…
No one suggested that
Mise, Rob thinks puerile Strawman arguments make him sound clever & allow him to harumph at those less clever than he.
Have a look at the WEF website, Mise. If you can manage to wade through Klaus “Anal” Schwab’s suffocating verbiage, you’ll find a lot of the plans still up there. Schwab has also laid out his vision of Hades in a couple of vanity-published books.
However, if that seems a bit onerous, I could point you to a multitude of representations of Hell On Earth, in numerous movies, books & artworks. Suffice it to say, it’s not something that the vast majority want, despite being what the vast majority are going to get.
When you’ve suffered enough from food & fuel shortages, while well-fed bureaucrats attempt to censor your thoughts, before you have them, death will come as a blessed relief.
Von der Layen’s mission will be complete, when the mass graves are dug. Despite actually being a woman, she’s certainly one who should be well hung. Even that pathetic little dipso Juncker managed to oversee a few days that didn’t present citizens with the multiple disasters she’s helped engineer.
Things about these sanctions is they hurt both sides- and it is questionable as to which most. There is a certain arrogant scolding tone from both the EU and the US, which is already backfiring.
Western Sanctions on Russia could be about to trigger a Global Food Crisis
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/04/western-sanctions-on-russia-could-trigger-global-food-crisis/
Trade with Russia is responsible for 4% of EU trade.
Trade with the EU is responsible for 39% of Russia’s trade.
Its not remotely questionable as to which side sanctions hurt most. The EU could close _all_ trade with Russia and suffer a mildly recessionary year. Russia would have the worst recession in economic history.
They could, or lack of Russian fuel could cause a major EU recession. We’re already seeing inflation, aka price gouging by the oil companies.
It’s not just about overall percentages – the type of goods coming or going is also important.
Agreed- not all goods are equal- both Ukraine and Russia are major food exporters.
Wheat planting season is about to begin in Ukraine and Russia has not invaded those belts. Russia will have no problem growing its crops, only exporting them.
When the country being sanctioned has plenty of food and fuel while those doing the sanctioning do not, one has to wonder what is the point.
Russia is highly unlikely to cut off bulk grain exports. It’s one of its few products — along with energy — exempted from Western sanctions,but carry on.
That’s true, johnny, but they’re likely to sell it all to willing buyers elsewhere & leave us to starve. By enforcing these sanctions, which are a war against the civilian population of Russia, we’ve expanded the range of war beyond anything that has ever been experienced before, even Nazi Germany was paying interest on loans to British banks, all through WW2.
If you think this unprecedented economic aggression is not going to have unprecedented effects, you’re naive. If you think sanctions are going to have any effect on Russia’s determination not to have nuclear missiles on it’s borders, you’re being silly. Decades of sanctions had superficial effects on tiny Cuba, they are not, ever, going to bring Russia to her knees, especially when most of the planet is firmly in their camp & hungry for their exports.
your life is tiny,you admitted to having no friends and are estranged from your family,it appears you also have no job,qualifications,no partner or prospects,who do you blame ?
why effect will any this garbage and nonsense have on your small life?
Wait until ALL Russian exports must be paid in Roubles- that is when the fun really begins.
i luv it when you talk FX,do you not think coin will play a large part?
Zaccone, the devil, as always, is in the details. What exactly do you reckon the EU makes that Russia can’t get from their allies in India or China or even do without?
On the other hand….Energy!
Russia supplies 155 billion of the 500 billion cubic metres of gas required by Europe. Without Russian gas we cannot manufacture whatever we sell to Russia, anyway, so stopping our exports to Russia is moot, once we stop our imports.
“And of course not utilising our own fuel” – wind… we have lots of it, weather and human-based…
“Really trying to figure out what their plan is other than more tax” … you are definitely not trying to figure out anything.
I agree about the fish, that’s mad. As for everything else. Without the bogs we won’t have agricultural land, without planning we’re messed up our cities and towns etc…
Our land grows grass for cows that we don’t need and pay stupid amounts of money to support, our manufacturing is in tech and pharma, not too shabby… we could do more locally given the mess of supply chains and it seems that we will, and that will it your pocket. We have relatively low tax compared to many EU countries, however, or government wastes this, and that’s nothing to do with the EU, it’s to do with our voters….
You really don’t have even a basic grasp of economic realities, ce, fanciful nonsense is more to your taste, clearly
Ireland produces close to enough food to feed almost ten times our population, it’s our major export. The pharma companies were attracted to Ireland by our government extolling our environment’s “carrying capacity”, in other words, we had a pristine environment, just waiting to be polluted & these capitalist rapists are here, polluting it, after which it will cease to be a renewable resource.
Big Pharma supplies jobs for the college-educated middle-classes, farmers tend to be lower down on the D4 view of “Oireland”, one which you clearly share with the idiots who run our country. Those are not just the politicians, either, the public sector, with its overpaid lead-swingers, corrupt administrators, wasteful incompetence & inefficiences has to shoulder its share of the blame.
Your absolutely right we do have plenty of wind and the tech for its storage is just not there yet . The power it provides is inconsistent at best. It is a lovely idea that we can go renewable but at this stage of the game that is what it is a lovely idea . In the meantime people are struggling.
Bogs , we all heat ourselves from our bogs here
The not being allowed to build on your own land , that is a German directive . I assume you are a city dweller, here in the country all most people have is a piece of land to give their kids . jobs do not pay as highly as cities so building on the land you have is what we have got.
Ireland is the largest exporter of beef in Europe and 5th in the world , I certainly think that’s something we need to keep running.
And yes I really do not see another plan from the Irish government other than taxation to fix problems .
Sorry this seems to be a sore spot with you , maybe take a walk
You could stick windmills and solar panels on every house in the country, hook them up to the grid, sell to the grid when wind and solar is high, draw from the conventional grid when low. You could radically bolster insulation requirements. You could do so many things that would improve things immeasurably and make life easier for everyone. But they won’t.
Again folks the problem is not with the wind farms and solar panels – it’s the lithium battery storage that is the issue.
Renewable is a great idea we are just not there yet and denying that as reality won’t change it.
Denying that we need to get there at all is more of a problem, and the harsher reality.
No one is denying we need to get there , but let’s not run before we can walk.
It is a work in progress, but that is what it is a work in progress not a viable alternative
Too late, they’re too slow, and leaving it too late, we need to be doing what we can as much as we can right now, not procrastinating and digging ourselves deeper.
…what we need immediately is a panel of experts similar to NPHET…led by somebody as strong as Dr Holohan…the procrastination has to stop but I’m guessing the solidarity of people will overcome government intransigence…
That’s… a really good idea.
…the government need a scapegoat to hide behind…too many vested interests to stand up to…don’t sound so surprised Nigel!
So far they’ve been scapegoating Eamon Ryan (with his apparent willing participation) without getting much done. If they gave their scapegoat actual power then scapegoat away.
Nigel, any perusal of the environmental predictions of the MSM, your trusted source for information on environmental threats, makes it clear that Britain is now experiencing Siberian weather & several European capital cities are being flooded.
How many times must these Cassandras get it entirely wrong before the penny drops, for you?
You remain wedded to a solution that cannot work, to a problem that refuses to manifest itself, simply because it’s fashionable among middle-class midwits.
Yeah, bisted, NPHET, that worked. Well, it worked for those determined to turn our corner of the world into Dystopia.
…NPHET worked for 92% of us…despite golfgate, Merriongate, ratlickers, et al…
The grid is not built to handle that kind of distributed supply, and would struggle to maintain frequency
Also what happens when wind isnt high enough and solar is low (solar is always low, but when its extra low)
Then change it so it can handle it, and when wind and sloar is low, conventional generation kicks in.
Potato admits the truth: Only hydrocarbon fuels can ensure continuity of supply.
Abolish the Carbon Tax.
Only hydrocarbon fuels can ensure continuing profits for fossil fuel companies, leverage for assorted fossil fuel exporting despots and the destruction of the world’s weather.
Potato returns to his lies.
At this stage the fraud is both knowing and reckless.
..your commentary is so on brand,it so matches your physical attributes from the telly.
Where’s the lie? Unless fossil fuel companies are actually benevolent…
Solar & Wind produce DC current, our entire grid is constructed to handle AC current. Your blithe, ignorant comment, “well change it” just shows you have no idea what you’re talking about, Nigel & makes it clear you should probably stop making a laughing stock of yourself & bringing your beloved Green Energy Scam into (well-deserved) disrepute.
You really are a very silly man.
Very, very silly.
@K.Cavan
Solar & Wind produce DC current, our entire grid is constructed to handle AC current
So? Nuclear, Hydro, Coal, Oil, and Gas power stations produce DC too.
That’s hilariously stupid. Well done.
Potato lies when he claims hydrocarbons are fossil fuels.
Potato lies when he claims use of hydrocarbons destroys the weather.
Potato lies.
This, 100% this.
It is not only possible but incredibly feasible.
But we have that sleepy imbecile Eamonn Ryan going on about ready to go salads and cycle fupping lanes.
If you had the slightest inkling about the subject, Ian, you wouldn’t make such an eejit of yourself.
Go watch “Planet of the Humans”, it’s been banned from youtube of course, that usually happens to anything truthful but your astonishing ignorance needs addressing.
No
You could not
You are a complete idiot
Please shut up for a minute
Any minute
You can choose which one
Of course you could.
nice rebuttal, really valid points being made by you, Mad. Get us all talking.
Other people have already pointed out the technical infeasability Paul.
Why would I bother to restate stuff that’s known to anyone with half a brain?
He’s a total douche bag
He’s rebutting ignorant nonsense from people living in a fantasy world created by media owned by oligarchs who want to sell us useless Green Energy white elephants, paul.
Idiots spew out idiocy, you can’t rebut idiocy, only call it out.
Neither of you have actually rebutted anything. Lot of insults and ranting, no rebuttals.
I realised a while ago you are addicted to negative interactions Nigel so I mostly ignore your bullpoo- vying with Clampers to provide a rebuttal isn’t really my thing, soz
Don’t be sorry. I’ll survive without your interactions.
That’s the thing. Like a parasite, yes you will.
There’s Nigel, living in his Sci-Fi world of clean energy, where we’ll replace the carbon in our carbon-based economy with plastic windmills & solar panels.
Bless.
This is one area where your usual assertions that 2+2=5 just won’t cut it, Nigel & you’re going to have to up the ante to 2+2=50, if you’re going to make those figures add up. Green Energy was conceived as a con, is still a con & until new technologies we have yet to even imagine emerge, will remain a con.
We will turn around when we’ve covered half the planet & filled all the the landfill with non-recyclable compound plastics & declare “these renewables don’t work” & the oligarchs who sold them to us will reply “oh, that’s a pity” & head off to count the windfall (yeah) profits they generated (oh yeah) by simply pumping out propaganda through the media they own, declaring that the tiny amount of CO2 we produce, adding to the tiny amount that actually exists in the atmosphere is going to change our climate enough to have a serious impact in 20 years, just as they told us 20 years ago & 20 years before that & so on.
You’re a brick-swallower, Nigel, you really are.
Someone desperate to save the poor struggling fossil fuel companies here.
The same people own the controlling shares in both industries, dummy.
Yes, that’s why the development of alternatives has been so slow relative to the urgency of the problem, because of that sort of corporate capture. They also lobby governments in opposition to publicly owned efforts, using, funnily enough, the same lawyers and techniques used by Big Tobacco. Silly billy.
Bullpoo!
We had our house assessed for solar and were advised that it wouldn’t work due to the orientation of the roof.
It would, if at all, only produce enough electricity to heat the water for a few months around summer.
There would be nothing to sell back.
It would take over 18 years to pay for itself – And that assumed the panels wouldn’t ever deplete in efficiency, which they do; or require any servicing, which they do.
Nor does it account for the cost of disposal / recycling of them.
Putting solar panels on all the houses in Ireland is a typical out-of-me-ash nonsense comment that has as much basis in reality as the belief that a woman has a penis…. So, right up your street Nigel! Pure la-la-land stuff.
OK every house in the country except Clampers’.
Correct,
Complete ficking nonsense
It’s all very idealistic but not based in reality.
We’ve got what we’ve got , use it .
When the renewables are ready that is what will be used , right now taxing people into struggling with heat , food and shelter is insane.
It’s been pointed out for years that neglecting the development of alternative energy sources was always going to hit the poorest hardest. Want to help them now? Accelerate that development.
I’m not in disagreement with you Nigel , you are right development is needed because it is not capable of providing what is required. But we can’t ignore the here and now either. We have resources let’s use them.
I don’t think we’re in disagreement, but there is an overwhelming urgency.
You actually think “trying harder” is an answer, Nigel? We wouldn’t need to try harder if a single one of the “solutions” prescribed by the priests of your Green Church came within an asses roar of being a runner.
The planet will heat up, while we head into an Ice Age, the resulting delay to the onset of that Extinction Event might provide us with enough of a respite to develop some means of surviving that, although it’s highly unlikely. The loss of some sandbars of islands in the Pacific & the relocation of some thousands of their inhabitants is a small price to pay, if it saves billions from excruciating death by starvation or hypothermia, if not our extinction.
Massive floods, storms and droughts spreading famine a small price for fossil fuel profits too, I suppose.
Are you sure Nigel, because it comes across as neglect the people to save the planet.
I would be of the opinion of feed people the fish/beef , let them use fossil fuel and build homes where they can, without being penalised .
While we develop alternative energy supplies
Neglect the people? Who do you think actually benefits from the planet being saved and suffers from it being destroyed?
You can’t do those things without penalties. The penalities are intrinsic and unavoidable, and the same people you’re advocating for are who will and are bearing the bunt.
I don’t think we’re on the same page Nigel
I don’t think Nigel is on a page, he’s merely reiterating the talking points & facile notions that Corporate America has spun across the globe via it’s media empire.
The solutions he alludes to but doesn’t really understand well, himself, have been designed to extract profit by scaring the herd with unprovable fake science.
Just like Covid, he was wrong there, too. He has a habit of being wrong & not even knowing why.
No, not enacting solutions is designed to preserve profits. Shill.
We are not destroying the planet, Nigel, we are not capable of doing so, in fact. Whether we SURVIVE or not is the question & when you’re so out to lunch that you don’t even know the question, of course you’re going to come up with nonsense, instead of answers.
I guess wiping out species, irretrievably damaging ecosystems and altering the weather isn’t destroying the whole planet, just the version of the planet we can live on.
As of 16:44 we are producing 4,027 MW of wind energy in Ireland, or 77% of the Island of Ireland’s current electricity demand