We are putting plans in place after the latest advice from NIAC regarding a second #COVIDVaccine booster for the recommended groups. Appointments are not open for a second booster dose yet – we will update our website soon to let you know how you can book your second booster. https://t.co/fc3Dx2AySy
— HSE Ireland (@HSELive) April 6, 2022
This afternoon.
Via RTÉ News:
The National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has recommended a fourth Covid vaccine dose for everyone aged 65 and older.
It also recommended a second booster for those aged 12 and older who are immunocompromised and children aged five to 11 who are immunocompromised should complete an extended primary course, which is a total of three vaccine doses.
Meanwhile…
“Those who are unvaccinated or incompletely vaccinated continue to be disproportionately affected and account for approximately a third of hospitalisations for Covid-19.
“As such, I urge anyone for whom an additional dose of vaccine has been recommended, or anyone yet to receive their primary course or booster vaccine do so as soon as possible.
“I have asked the NIAC to continue to actively examine the evidence regarding the likely benefit of a second booster to other groups, vaccine choice and interval, in order to make further recommendations in this regard.”
Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland
Um.
Anyone?
Fourth Covid vaccine dose recommended for over 65s (RTÉ)
Alternatively…
Hush now.
And the research to back this up is where?
Maybe those who are pumping out this dangerous nonsense could use their own names? Especially within the HSE- it will save time later.
3 of my relatives over 65 in the last few months: 1 had prostate cancer spread aggressively to form lung cancer secondaries. Died this week. Another developed skin carcinoma, and heart irregularities (requiring pacemaker). Another had blackouts (while driving) – investigation led to discovery of heart problems (operation in coming weeks) and prostate cancer diagnosis.
I guess that’s because they were incompletely vaccinated Stephen? Nothing to do with the mRNA vaccines effects on heart tissue and interference with cancer suppression cells like the studies now show?
“The most successful vaccination campaign in the history of the State”?
Criminal activity happening in plain sight.
These vaccines should be *withdrawn* by now, and their State shills behind bars for complicity to murder.
My condolences freewheeling. Remember the old saying: don’t get mad, get even? You will have the opportunity- just bide your time.
Some people won’t have the luxury of time. My personal anger (or any retribution) is irrelevant. The first priority has to be to stop these people from doing any more damage to those who may yet escape it. It is maddening that BS appears to be the only Irish media outlet willing to warn people. Dogs in the street know what’s going on, but everyone’s afraid to speak up. Blood is on the hands of everyone now who remains silent.
“to those who may yet escape it” Some are too far gone, they may lack either the intellectual abilities to parse the past two years events – or they’d lack the emotional capability to process said events and accept what they were told was wrong.
It’s possible we might see a critical mass event, when bearing the weight of the lies and adverse events proves too much for too many – but until such, there’s nothing much to be said or done.
I watched an interesting take on the medias role in this, from Anna Brees (BBC). There’s many in the media including senior editorial roles that know how wrong their actions were. I wouldn’t be surprised if we some coming clean in the coming months in order to assuage their guilt https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/brees:5
Every additional booster shot is another gamble, and adding cumulative damage. Warning people not to take more is still doable. Even the evidence of their own experience – at the uselessness of these therapies as innoculants over the Winter – is more convincing than HSE’s propaganda’s dept. latest “#LayerUp” insult. Otherwise, they’ll have them Layering-Up until they run out of targets.
Condolences and thanks for sharing, my friend just got diagnosed with lung cancer.
Can you post a confirmed link to the interference with cancer suppression cells from the vaccine.
Also anything you have on the criminal activity involved would be hugely beneficial for me in helping me inform those I know intending on taking the boosters.
Kind regards and best wishes to your family.
vaccine choice ? GTF
https://twitter.com/aliceysu/status/1511558828802068481?s=20&t=ilErwGp1sF8h1OfwBfZPHw
… Weibo: Shanghai residents go to their balconies to sing & protest lack of supplies. A drone appears:
(“Please comply w covid restrictions. Control your soul’s desire for freedom. Do not open the window or sing.”)
memo to Minister Donnelly, NIAC, NPHET et al…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czErUqFmJwE
So – “ Those who are unvaccinated or incompletely vaccinated continue to be disproportionately affected and account for approximately a third of hospitalisations for Covid-19.”
Meaning that two thirds of covid hospitalisations are people with full Covid vaccinations. I don’t know about you, but that’s not great odds
Do you know what ‘disproportionately’ means? If 95% of the adult population are vaccinated, and that 5% of the unvaccinated population are therefore making up 33% of the hospitalizations, then that actually is terrible odds, for the unvaccinated. It’s really simple maths I don’t know why that would be difficult to understand.
Do you know what ‘if’ means. You wrote it.
Plus you’re missing the point that fully vaccinated are being hospitalised.
Oh wow groan. It’s a conditional expression of a situation acknowledging a degree of approximation. It’s pretty simple English! Back to school time maybe GG, I can only imagine how bad your Irish is if your English and maths are in this absolute state.
Do you know what ‘if’ means. I have to ask it again. Usually an underachieving student would groan like you have.
Do you know the actual percentages of fully vaccinated, the percentages of part-vaccinated and the percentages of not vaccinated? Not CSO-type figures that are approximated, but actual figures.? Yes or no?
Do you?
Taking the best figures we have available, 95% of adults are vaccinated, 5% are not. If those 5% are manifesting as 33.33% of the hospitalizations, that means they are 9.5x more likely to end up in hospital than a vaccinated person. Bad odds, as you’d say.
Your original point about ‘not great odds’ acknowledges that in order to make a determination on that you’d have to know a (reasonably accurate) percentage of people vaccinated, so either you’re going off official figures or you know a different number somehow, so which is it?
Honestly G, I’ve seen you make a hames of numbers stuff before, maybe just keep away from it if you don’t understand it.
So, give the numbers of
Fully vaccinated (?)
Part vaccinated (?)
Not vaccinated. (you say 5%)
as of this week.
Real figures, and then we can discuss. A wikipedia figure which may or may not be correct….
As of 5 April 2022, 10,780,642 vaccine doses have been administered, of which 4,072,102 people have received at least one dose, 3,772,902 have received their second dose and 2,935,638 have received a third or booster dose.
Now, from my understanding, the 2,935,638 is the figure you need to look at as being fully vaccinated, as the first and second vaccinations would have been mainly in 2021 and early 2022. That 2,935,638 figure is the fully vaccinated Having received 1st, 2nd, and tthe booster/3rd dose.
What % is that of the population then? Certainly not the 95% you’re saying is fully vaccinated.
So taking the population as 5,000,000, 290,0000 is 58% that are full vaccinated. Not 95%.
That throws quite a different picture then. 58% of the population gives a 66.66% of hospitalisations with covid, while 48% of the population (not fully vaccinated ) makes up 33.33% of hospitalisations.
Let’s see your figures.
Your ‘understanding’ re boosters is incorrect.
My understanding is correct. You were writing about ‘fully vaccinated’ at 95%.?
So, what’s your understanding.? With figures now mind.
It’s not. Vaccinated means two shots, doesn’t necessitate a booster. That is incorrect.
Sorry, Oro, but we are talking about ‘fully’ vaccinated. Nice try though.
As in the article ‘ Those who are unvaccinated or incompletely vaccinated…’, which is what I made my comment about, and up you rode on your white horse, and made a clown out of yourself.
Looks like figures, statistics, understanding aren’t strong points for you, eh?
Fully vaccinated means two shots, partially means one, booster shot is separate, and it is not required for a person to count as ‘fully vaccinated’. You can repeat yourself all you like but you’re incorrect.
Also your journey through spinning the figures from originally trying to muddy the acceptable source for ‘numbers’ to moving on to using the concept of ‘booster = fully vaccinated” is printed in your replies, so it’s as plain as day that you’re being totally inconsistent in this argument.
Of course I’m correct. If the second jab wanes, then you’re not fully vaccinated.
Still waiting for your figures.
The smell of burning rubber from your retreat is overpowering.
I can’t understand why you were the successful sperm.
I know I said I wouldn’t reply, but I just want to point out one final inconsistency here in your logic.
You’re claiming only those that have had the booster count as ‘fully vaccinated’ however you’re now using the waning effects of efficacy to determine ‘full vaccination’. Now the second one depends (going by your own logic), not on a booster, but on how recent you have had your second injection (if unboostered) or your booster injection. And you would not count as ‘vaccinated’ under this logic if your booster was beyond a certain amount of time ago. However you would if you had had your second injection very recently. It would all depend on an time from last injection.
You’re full of it GG, but also entirely empty at the same time :) and you are totally unable to approach a point that has more than one moving quantity to it. I know you’ll just say “no I’m right you’re wrong” because your brian probably can’t comprehend its own failure so this is essentially a useless exercise, but please be aware, there are few people so consistently incorrect on here as you are.
So, where are your, erm, figures Oro? Not got any then?
Busted flush. Tsk tsk. Run along now. You’re clueless.
Who is my ‘brian’ ? ;-)
You are so confused. My references and point haven’t changed since the start of this, you’re the one with constantly shifting goalposts. 95% of adult pop has two injections = fully vaccinated. It doesn’t matter that you say a booster is required, because it isn’t. And that’s what they mean when they’re discussing hospitalizations, it’s those with two injections. You’re off on your own tangent, contradicting yourself like you did earlier (I notice you didn’t reply to any of the timeline part lol) and just generally being as scatterbrained as your usual self. And then doing a “haha i win” when you’ve gotten almost everything wrong. You’re a mess.
I’ll be your Brian Giggidy
Brian it on there Oro!
Shouldn’t that have been ‘you’re Brian’ in the interests of fairness? ;)
Well, Donnelly said it and I wouldn’t believe anything that came out of his gob.
Plus, who mentioned adults? Is it not about 80% of Irish population vaccinated?
Plus, are they hospitalised for or with Covid?
PLUS, Leo only said the other day (not that he’s believable either) that over half those hospitalised are infected incidentally.
Anyway, the long and short of it is, no one really knows and ye can’t believe anything they say, so get the booster jabs of ya want or don’t.
Pick your risk.
I think you can discount under 16s from discussions about hospitalizations tbh. I imagine 100% of that category that are at risk of hospitalization have received their vaccines anyway.
It says in the text ‘hospitalizations for Covid-19”.
‘I think’
‘I imagine’
How about figures?
I think you’ve had all the figures you can handle today to be honest GG. 5 times tables tomorrow.
“ It says in the text ‘hospitalizations for Covid-19”
Please see my first point re Donnely’s Gob
Sure Oro. I’ve provided you with figures. Your incapable of understanding them obviously, and duly run away. School won’t do much for you i’m afraid.
*you’re ;)
Congratulations. You’ve passed the spelling test. Try the maths one.
Well I will hand it you you’ve some measure of self confidence for someone so clueless. Anyway I’m off for the day, I honestly can’t waste any more time on your 2+2=5 bit.
Oh look-> It is a emigrant lecturing the Irish about how the Irish should be Irish-> AGAIN !
Rhubarb hangover.
Oh look > it’s a UK National projecting their nationalistic insecurity online for the millionth day in a row.
SOQ nobody mentioned anything about being Irish, that wasn’t the subject of our disagreement. You’re as bolshie.
It’s been a pleasure showing you how thick you are Oro.
Come back tomorrow for some more education.
I love when you do that. Write down that you’ve ‘owned’ the argument when you’re so far behind you’re on a different planet. It’s funny.
You know I’m not sure I’ll bother to check in tomorrow, I don’t come on here everyday. I recommend it. It’s a real brain drain these days. So I suppose you’re right at home.
Oro gaslighting as per usual..
Runs off when held to account..
Excuse me I replied to everyone. Did you lose the ability to read MSHbot? Is your only remaining function to produce two sentence comments that don’t really relate to much?
When held to account you run for the hills Oro. You’re just another busted flush.
I’m sorry I think you’re confusing me with someone else MSH. Again, I’ve replied to everyone on this thread, and I don’t think anyone ‘held me to account’.
Also wtf is this ‘busted flush’ thing it sounds like a spaghetti western insult?!? Did you all get together on telegram to choose a weird insult that doesn’t really work in any instance and decide to use it for any random reason?
As I say – It’s been a pleasure Oro.
Come back tomorrow, or another day of your choosing, for some more education.
Every additional booster shot is another gamble, and adding cumulative damage. Warning people not to take more is still doable. Even the evidence of their own experience, at the uselessness of these therapies as innoculants, is more convincing than HSE’s propaganda’s dept. latest “#LayerUp” insult.
Its an awful shame theres no vaccination against being unable to understand statistics. It’d do a lot of good for GiggidyGoo.
…beg your pardon…giggser has had her vaccinations…
Still hate all protestants there Bisted? Why?
See above. In your reply, maybe you’ll include your, erm, calculations (if you’re capable).
Thought not.
Kill the old with kindness
I’ve had more pricks than a pin cushion.
Four COVID jabs and a flu shot.
I trust my doctor more than some joker on the internet.
Ha haaaa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGS7_gWG3w