Blood Brothers

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Last night.

France 2.

In a televised interview, the French President Emmanuel Macron stated that he did not want to use the term “genocide” for the killing of Ukrainians by the Russian military.

Macron noted :

“I would be cautious with such words because these two peoples (Russians and Ukrainians) are brothers.”

Earlier….

Last night.

Iowa, USA

President Joe Biden for the first time referred to Russia’s invasion in Ukraine as a “genocide” at an event in Iowa, and he repeated the term before boarding Air Force One to return to Washington, DC.

Joe Biden accuses Vladimir Putin of committing genocide in Ukraine (The Guardian)

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30 thoughts on “Blood Brothers

  1. paul

    Genocide is quite a difficult definition to match to be appropriate and even harder to prove.

    If the report of Russian troops moving a few thousand Ukrainian children into Russia is borne out then that is one of the definitions of genocide satisfied (part E of the UN definition I believe).

    1. jonjoker

      Well, I’d say Biden knows what he is talking about.

      The Yanks sure know a thing or two about genocide – they started genociding the natives on the East coast of America and kept doing it till they reached the Pacific ocean. Did a bit in Hawaii, too.
      Hell, they exported it as well, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
      And they help the Israelis out from time to time, just to stay in practice.

      This doesn’t justify anything Putin has done of course, before the holierthanthous arrive.

  2. john f

    To be honest there is so much information and disinformation coming out from both sides of this conflict that it’s very hard if not impossible for armchair commentators to know the truth.
    Zelensky is on his world media tour, however, who this is being organised by is arguable. However, he definitely has the media clout to spread lies and propaganda that cripple support for the Russians internationally and in times of war that is arguably justifiable, even if immoral. Who knows perhaps the Russians are doing the things he is accusing them of.

    1. SOQ

      I suppose this is going to be a test of how important propaganda really is because an information war is the only one Zelenskyy is really equipped to fight. But as we are only seeing one half one half of the picture through the western legacy media, so it is likely to be very skewed.

      Take the Rouble for example- all sorts of predictions about its demise- except it is now higher than before and set to continue to rise. Banning the sale of designer handbags and fast food is hardly going to bring a country with such natural resources to its knees now is it?

  3. SOQ

    If the rumours are correct about who is holed up in that steel factory in Ukraine, Putin has Macron by the pervertibles, It has the potential to completely derail his election campaign so no wonder he is being very careful with his words.

      1. Mr. T

        101 different rumours, mostly spurred on by the fact that ukrainians sent 4(?) helicopters across russian held territory to mariupol to evacuate something or someone. All 4 were predictable shot down. A suicide mission really.

        Rumours of NATO officers, US officers, German officers, French.. etc. Some say they are retired officers, other say they were actively coordinating things, some say its intelligence services (lol what)

        Other people say that deep in the lower levels of azovstal are labour camps or underground prisons or top secret research institutions… i personally believe its the real location of BS towers

        1. An older man

          Dont forget the Turkish freighter that was captured by the russians trying to do an evacuation run. Must be very valuable people holed up there.

      2. scottser

        military advisors from france, uk, sweden are holed up with the azov brigades in the asovstal steel mills. they have underground bunkers that contain weird labs where a bald guy with a white cat cuts secret agents in half with a laser. they’re also creating a mutant army out of orcs and unobtanium in order to colonise outer space in the name of our lord jesus christ.

          1. Ian - oG

            Which is why he must……….DIE!

            But not straight away, we must construct a devious yet actually quite easy to escape death machine for him while we outlay in great detail our exact plans.

            What could go wrong?

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            well there’s a massive comet heading towards the earth so there’s that

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            the deadliest three pronged attack the world has ever seen

      3. Fearganainm

        He’s been frantically trying to keep alive a rumour that was first initiated on April 4th by some unknown ‘journalist’ using the ID German Vladimirov. Many other Putinbots have reposted the same thing, day after day since. Many of them omit the second sentence of German Vladimirov’s claim:

        “NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and “neutral” Sweden got stuck at Azovstal in Mariupol. Right now they are getting in touch with the Russian troops with a request to help them leave, to organize a corridor for the exit.”

        Only Putinbots are keeping this rumour on life support. The Russian Defence Ministry has not made any propaganda out of the claim. Some of the rumour pushers tack on a claim from an April 3rd tweet that an American – Lieutenant General Roger L. Cloutier Jr. – had been captured in Mariupol. Despite his putting out a statement denying the allegation the Putinbots want it to be true so keep repeating it.

        They have no update on German Vladimirov’s sole tweet either. Just an anxious hope that they’re in the know about ‘top secret things’.

        https://twitter.com/search?q=German%20Vladimirov&src=typed_query&f=live

        Note how even a Putinbot has doubts in the thread above:

        “La nouvelle doit être traitée avec prudence – je n’ai jamais entendu parler d’un tel journaliste auparavant…”

    1. SOQ

      *proverbials sorry.

      @ Janet- yes as Mr. T has outlined. but also an Turkish ship made a solo run into it too. It is speculation as to what is in there, nobody really knows- the NATO actors were previously in the area- but for so many to risk their lives suggests it is something important.

      1. scottser

        If there was any truth to it, nato would simply deck out a couple of air squadrons in Ukraine signals and blow the poo of the Russians surrounding the azovstal to allow their lads to escape.

        1. SOQ

          The Russians have Mariupol pretty much sewn up now, with 1000 Ukrainian soldiers just after surrendering. There is no chance of who or what is in there getting out because the Russians control the skies- all they have to do is sit and wait until AZOV/NATO run out of supplies.

          If this is true then you can be certain Putin is going to make as much political capital out of it as possible because for a start, it is concrete proof that Ukraine as not independent as claimed. .

  4. Dinkum

    Another gaff by Biden
    This war is a boom for the US economy
    All the energy like oil and gas at record prices all the weapons as well
    Macron is right
    We must be careful with language or maybe sleep walk our selves into a world war with a nuclear power
    The last thing we need is a europe laid waste
    And Scottser once jets from NATO are dispatched they are offensive weapons and that would give Putin the credibility to up the anti
    The first thing zelensky would do is use them to bomb deep into Russian territory
    There are no saints in this
    Let’s face it we all know Putin is a monster but saying that no surprises as to Putin

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