Under The Flag

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This afternoon.

SOQ writes:

‘Dublin Pride is to butcher the rainbow flag with the Ukraine colours? Please tell me this is not true? I have seen some bad decisions taken over the years but this one takes the biscuit. Who gave them the right to mess around with our flag? Absolutely disgusting.

Anyone?

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134 thoughts on “Under The Flag

  1. ce

    The auld rainbow flag is going through some serious territorial expansions over recent years… generally don’t agree with SOQ on much, but it’s a little cheap in this instance…

    although “butcher” in the current climate is not a great choice of words…

    if you want to waive both flags at the same time waive both, I think a mashup is a bit meh …

    Personally, I don’t do flags of any description, they’re all a bit daft IMHO…..

    1. TenPin Terry

      So this is not so much the Butcher’s Apron but the Butch Apron ?
      Get you …

      Fnarr fnarr.

    2. Kin

      It’s gone mad
      Maybe the real homophobic Ukrainians might just be a bit pissed off as their flag now is a gay pride flag
      Hopefully the Russians will just finish off the job they started and go home
      Then we can all get back to normality

  2. SOQ

    Now the precedent of shoehorning in non-related politics has been set- are we to see the Union Jack or the Tricolour slid into rainbow flags for Belfast Pride 2022?

    This has never happened before and the people who made that decision had absolutely no authority to do so.

    And that is not even considering Ukraine’s own dark history with Pride events. There is plenty of images of Rainbow flags being burned there- or does that not matter all of a sudden?

    1. Mad

      No offense mate but how gay of you. And not in a good way… Desperately trying to find something to be offended by. Anything at all, literally. It’s gays like you give the entire community a bad rep.

        1. Mad

          It’s just that you’ve asserted ownership of broadsheet.ie itself this week and now you’re trying to claim ownership of Dublin Pride – ok how very old gay stag of you

        2. anti bot

          what gave you the right to moan about it? what gave you the right to constantly defend the invasion of a sovereign nation? what gave you the right to dismiss covid. and yet you’re outraged by a flag. you really have shown your true fupped up colours. I know you’re only click bait at this stage. when are you going to get a job??

        1. anti bot

          Bodger can you please prevent the use of retard. I was accused of this awful individual of being a retard but he was never censored. I am seriously considering taking this foul expression to a higher authority.

    2. The Nigel Account

      ‘or does that not matter all of a sudden?’

      Presumably all the more reason for a show of solidarity with the LGTBQ community in Ukraine? Especially since they’re threateed by an even more notoriously repressive and LGTBQphobic regime?

      1. K. Cavan

        “…all the more reason for a show of solidarity with the LGTBQ community in Ukraine”

        Government gofer Nigel delivers another pile of crap, while simultaneously removing the urine. The flag of Ukraine, where Nazism is a national obsession & fresh flowers adorn the statue of Bandera, has been grafted onto (or penetrated from behind by) the Rainbow Flag as a show of solidarity for the USA’s decades of violent imperialism & depraved bloodlust, signalling Ireland’s craven support for their decades of vicious criminality, torture, murder & terrorism.
        The Rainbow Flag is not the property of any fictitious Gay Community, it’s a corporate symbol of US hegemony over every place that flies it. Most gay people I know are more politically aware than most but who says no to a party?
        Well, maybe more of them will when it’s the Nazi Party they’re being co-opted into supporting?

    3. Cú Chulainn

      Virtue signalling gone mad.. how bad can it get? Don’t be shocked when some national socialism icons are appropriated ‘because they were against the Russians’..

  3. Zaccone

    What makes it “your” flag, that you get sole control of? I’m sure plenty of Ukrainian gay people are delighted with the above. Is it any less their flag than it is yours?

    1. SOQ

      Of course it is not my flag, it is OUR flag and it has a history of being neutral in everything apart from LGBT etc rights. That has always been the case, even in the north throughout the worst of the troubles. More to the point, it must remain so, otherwise all the talk of inclusiveness goes flying out the window.

      Did they even bother to ascertain Gilbert Baker’s opinion first?

      1. barry

        Inclusivity doesn’t cover genocide and the designer of the flag produced an anti-Trump version.

      2. The Nigel Account

        The flag gets changed and transformed in all sorts of brilliant and creative ways all the time, it’s also been hijacked for corporate PR to everyone’s disgust and aggravation, this is just one example you don’t like.

        1. K. Cavan

          Most of its current profile & exposure is as a virtue signal for greedy corporations, who of course, neglect to fly it in countries like Saudi Arabia, where it might actually mean something, cowardly bottom-lickers that they are.

          1. The Nigel Account

            Pretty sure it means something in Ukraine, given that they’re being invaded by a notoriously homophobic superpower.

      3. paddy apathy

        Gilbert Baker is dead.
        His views on Russian war on Ukraine are unknowable. But he did create iconic banners for gay rights AND anti-war protests. So he might well have approved.

        1. SOQ

          I did not know he was dead- RIP. He was the designer of the rainbow flag of course.

          I very much doubt if he would have approved- it is impossible for that flag to be merged into something so partisan, and still claim to be impartial.

          1. paddy apathy

            You don’t and can’t speak for Gilbert. As I said he designed iconic banners for both anti-war and Pride protests and was equally passionate about both. 1+1 = ?

          2. johnny

            ..he was a medic in the army and very involved in cannabis legislation in Cali-passed,what like 5 or 6 years ago in New York.He did not know he was even dead,but knows his views on this topic…………duh.

        2. K. Cavan

          Support for one side or the other in a war is patently not an anti-war stance, paddy. It’s the exact opposite. The US started this war, like so many others & is leading the promotion of the Ukrainian flag as support for it’s ultimate desire, to dismember Russia & loot its natural resources. The planet’s greatest Imperial power is riven by internal division, weakened by its own degeneracy, led by decrepid elders & crazy ideologues & its time is almost up.
          It’s also clear, at this stage, that the EU will be pulled under with it, as the vast majority of the planet swims away from the wreckage.

          1. The Nigel Account

            Putin started this war, and it’s entirely anti-war to support the country that has been invaded by the warmongering invader.

          2. anti bot

            ah go on great one, how did the US incite Russia to invade a sovereign democratic nation. spelt it out for us thick non conspiracy people. go on, I dare you. I bet you can’t do so without mentioning nazis. how many Jews have they killed? let me guess there is no covid, there is no climate change, Joe is sleepy (why?) Trump is the non sexist pig saviour, guns are good and you have no sex in a good few years

    2. E'Matty

      It’s not a pro fupping NATO flag anyway. To push the NATO jingoistic propaganda BS on top of Ireland’s LGBT etc community is a bit crass.

          1. K. Cavan

            It will not exist after this operation is complete, what’s left of it will certainly become part of NATO & will be absorbed by the EU, if it’s still around.

          1. The Nigel Account

            They are being supported by NATO, doesn’t change the fact that Russia invaded them.

          2. NM

            The US is supplying Asov and others with weapons to prolong the war.Ukraine are being used.

        1. K. Cavan

          It’s regular Army & its Nazi Army have both been trained by NATO, armed by NATO & have NATO “advisors” embedded. Both armies are under the direct command of the US Military, not that clown, Zelensky.
          Stop with your nonsense, barry.

        2. Kin

          Barry
          Also am interesting fact Kiev was built around 482 by 2 slavic brother
          It was originally the capital of Russia hundreds of years before Moscow was built
          There was no NATO then
          Maybe this is why NATO cannot understand the history of europe

      1. SOQ

        Critics are making a thing about the biggest funder being the Irish Government. It would be nice to think they didn’t have any say in such matters, but they probably do.

        The irony being that while Mr Vardarak was tucked up in his nice cosy little closet for fear of career damage, some of us were marching under that flag at fear of real and serious physical injury.

        1. K. Cavan

          Sure, look at Macron, SOQ, he’s in a gay relationship but still has his beard on.

    3. Kin

      Your means your countries flag
      Theirs mean their countries flag
      Splitting hairs as usual

  4. Madam X

    Bad decision Pride. Ukraine is not a bastion or has never been held up for its support of LGBT people. Stay out of it

    1. E'Matty

      Well said. Try fly the rainbow flag in Kiev and see how much solidarity there is.

        1. ce

          community is such a strange word, in any context… some folks included, other folks excluded… flags and labels etc. are nonsense, but humans are too immature to let them go…

        2. Chris

          “Um, that just suggests the LGTBQ community there needs the solidarity.” What about the LGBT community in Russia? Shouldn’t they add that flag, and Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait etc etc

        3. K. Cavan

          To suggest that a persecuted gay minority would be rallying around the national flag of the nation that persecutes them, even when it’s not overlaid with a Swastika, is ludicrous nonsense, even by your idiotic standards, Nigel.

          1. The Nigel Account

            If you say so, though it is a handy signfier, and it seems to drive you warmongers up the wall.

    2. SOQ

      Funny how people are talking themselves round in circles to justify this.

      If the Ukrainian LGBT community are so in need of support then why was it not the same 4 years ago when those horrific images and videos were posted from Kiev Pride? Burning rainbow flags was the least of it.

      Where was the Dublin Pride support then?

      And, if Russia is so homophobic- it is- then why aren’t they also being sent a gesture of support? Otherwise the LGBT community in one of the largest countries in the world- is back of the rainbow EQUALITY bus.

      I really wish people would think these things through before acting on emotions.

      1. Fearganainm

        Carpe diem!

        Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

        NOW is the time for YOU to fly into Moscow and lead the protest against the anti-gay climate in Putin’s Russia. And be sure to give Patriarch Kirill a stern talking to while you’re at it.

        Let us know how you get on.

        1. SOQ

          Papers will be up sometime between 2:45 and 5:15 tomorrow, which means you are scheduled for first comment rush sometime between and 3:01 and 5:21- sorry about that.

          You are probably paid frig all anyways eh?

          1. Fearganainm

            So you’re not willing to go to Russia and take on Putin and Patriarch Kirill?:

            While I’m not in the least surprised it does underscore the fact that you’re just a slabberer.

          2. SOQ

            Your reference to my perceived family is interesting account Sara luv- keep pushin- all I have so far is ideas for the new kitchen.

            Never baby friendly to be of course- we were never so rich as to afford an Ukrainian breeding cow.

      2. The Nigel Account

        The only reason you ask those questions is because you object to the show of support for Ukraine ideologically, because for some reason you support the Russian invasion.

        1. Me So Harney

          In the 1980’s, some bum belted one out against a wall, and out popped Sara.

        2. Kin

          Jesus Christ Nigel give it a break
          I will even buy you the airline ticket to go there and stay there

  5. missred

    The flag can be reinvented the way people feel the need to represent it. Maybe Ukrainian people who don’t normally get a hassle free Pride in their home country would like to be proud of where they’re from and also being LGBT? The above is probably not a sign of anything but sharing the love

    1. K. Cavan

      Sure, misred, the people being persecuted by the Ukrainian Nazis want to rally round the same flag the Nazis like to stick a Swastika onto.
      Why do you think the Rainbow Flag even exists?
      Utter nonsense.

  6. ANO

    A nice gesture of solidarity.

    Hope everyone has a great Pride month, nothing but love for the LGBTQ+ community.

    1. SOQ

      Have you met those who claim politics while also running all the very profitable venues?

    2. K. Cavan

      You’re a virtue-signalling warmonger, ANO.
      By now, most people understand that virtue signalling like this represents the guilty conscience of sociopaths.

  7. Sara

    They should put a ‘I’ve had my Covid shot’ badge on it too. That’d cheer up SOQ no end.

    1. Me So Harney

      They should put “I’ve had a lobotomy” badge on it, that would cheer Sara up to no end..

      1. ProfessorMark

        I’m in the commonsense part. Untouched by such populism. A knowing nod to each neighbour which precludes a full eye roll.

          1. SOQ

            Transference of importance stuff in the SF P6 program up north is a secret- if you can’t read P6.

            So be Donbass.

      1. SOQ

        If you hear the vegetables scream while your neighbours eats them, then yes- (s)he may have reason for concern.

  8. stephen moran

    A nice big fat picture of King Billy slap in the middle of the fleg would liven things up with the Oráistí denial dinosaurs of the Northern Taliban

    1. K. Cavan

      The MSM’s dehumanising propaganda works a charm on mental & moral weaklings like you, ce, I see.

  9. SailorGerry

    I think that flag should include a brown stripe.

    Happy to help out and wipe my backside with it.

      1. SailorGerry

        Do you think people like George Soros actually care about the people that stand under a rainbow coloured banner?

        I would suggest that he and his billionaire buddies do not genuinely give a rats.

        What they are interested in, is destroying old school Christian values that help form families in a conventional and cohesive manner.

        The new wave of Bolshevik communism they wish to bring in under a green cloaked NWO is the end game, and destroying the family unit is part of that agenda. Under communism, the state comes before the family unit, and “The Red Terror” encouraged children to rat out unpatriotic parents that were then sent to Gulags.

        Medical tyranny under the UN plandemic mandate is another part of the plan, along with owning nothing and being happy.

        It is for these reasons I oppose pretty much anything George Soros supports, the man is evil.

        https://eraoflight.com/2020/02/13/the-billionaires-behind-the-lgbtq-transgender-agenda-george-soros-peter-buffett-tim-gill-and-the-stryker-dynasty-have-donated-hundreds-of-millions-to-the-cause/

        1. ce

          “Do you think people like George Soros actually care about the people “… no, what’s your point…

          1. ce

            “The new wave of Bolshevik communism they wish to bring in under a green cloaked NWO is the end game, and destroying the family unit is part of that agenda. Under communism”… and your mad…

          2. ce

            “Medical tyranny under the UN plandemic mandate is another part of the plan, along with owning nothing and being happy.

            It is for these reasons I oppose pretty much anything George Soros supports, the man is evil.”… yep, mad… maybe Soros is wrong, but not actually evil… have a bit of perspective

        2. ce

          “destroying old school Christian values that help form families in a conventional and cohesive manner”… love? transubstantiation? the trinity? credo? … or priest and nun (and lay “believer”) kiddie fiddling and torture?

          or

          “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you” – Luke 17:21

        3. K. Cavan

          People like ce don’t actually know who Soros is or what he does, Gerry. He lives in a twilight world of recieved opinions & outsourced thought processes.

  10. Termagant

    The flag was broken the moment it became more than a rainbow. The point of the rainbow is it’s a full spectrum, all-encompassing. The moment they started adding specific colours to represent specific groups the meaning was lost, this is just another layer.

    1. K. Cavan

      That’s the point, Termagant, there is a “they” that control what this now utterly bastardised thing means. It’s no longer owned by the gay community, it will probably start including corporate logos, next.
      It’s a dog’s dinner, at this stage, perfect for sociopaths to virtue signal, in bulk.

  11. ce

    This flag will also likely end up as the cover for the “Dark Side of the Moon” 500th anniversary reissue…

    1. ce

      Early Rigors
      Gaylor Riser (Very Kurt Vonnegut)
      Glory Raiser
      Greasily Orr
      Larry Sergio (porn name)
      Rigel Rosary
      Roger Riyals (also porn name)
      Rigor Slayer (google researcher)
      Arel Orgy Sri (Drag name)

      etc

  12. Ronnie

    It shouldn’t be politically aligned like this. Not all the LGBTQ community agree on political matters it so shouldn’t be biased.

    1. K. Cavan

      It’s no longer a Rainbow Flag, that’s the point, it’s the flag of the Global American Empire.

    2. barry

      The LGBTQ don’t agree on trans issues either. Opposing murder isn’t a political issue.

  13. Hughie Luas

    Local lad wears his rainbow ID badge lanyard queuing at Bread 41 on Pearse Street every Saturday morning due to deep-minded neediness and narcissism arising from local tech job

    I agree with SOQ on this one.

    The LGBTQI+ community needs to reclaim their flag from the money-grubbing corporate branders in Grand Canal Dock and pub owners in Capel Street.

    It’s “NOT” OUR flag – it’s “their” flag and they should be helped defend it as such.

    Seeing Bank of Ireland staff poncing around with their rainbow landyards on their corporate ID security cards makes me puke.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if the EU flag got a rainbow treatment.

    1. barry

      Did you know that LGBT people work in banks too?

      You’re not much an an LGBTQ ally if you’re using the term “poncing”.

      1. Hughie Luas

        You need to look up more advanced English than what you’re getting in your TikTok feed, spa.

    2. K. Cavan

      It’s clear that this flag is NOT the Rainbow Flag at all, it’s no longer got anything to do with LGBT matters, it’s a catch-all, a bandwagon that’s been jumped on by virtue-signalling normies. It’s not even a Rainbow any more, the simple, effective impact of the original design has been subverted, painted over, defaced, used as a Trojan Horse for every piece of evil political dogma The Empire Of Lies want to stuff down people’s throats.
      In reality, if you live somewhere that this flag is imposed by the government, top-down, you live in a country that’s been invaded & seized by a foreign power, who are now in control.
      Those damn Americans, if there was a country to go with the Rainbow Flag, the US would’ve invaded it & reduced it to rubble, long ago, citing “tensions” between lesbians & gay men or simply claiming it was responsible for Aids.
      When the Normies jump on a bandwagon with such dullard bourgeois gusto, it’s time to disembark.
      I wouldn’t head off to a party with the vast majority who wave this flag, it would be a crushing bore-fest, it wasn’t always like that.

  14. SOQ

    The Mother club was pretty much the gay version of the ICA before this BS- no wonder why so many now travel to Belfast every weekend.

  15. SOQ

    Just so we are clear- if the Sara entity or any of it’s twisted variations appear again- they are welcome to this site.

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