Of course, if you read the details underneath, you’d see the dog’s name is Milo. (Or 1.6 kilometers-o in today’s money.)
Cú Chulainn
Sub editor having a bad day..? Criminal Coveney blamed for hacking phone… fixed now..
GiggidyGoo
Hack? – Mehole.
The ‘special advisor’, ex Dinnytalk, Chris Donohue isn’t giving value for money.
If a phone is hacked, then no amount of deleting messages will protect you. Once hacked, messages and the whole memory of the phone is available to the hacker – instantly.
How would a hacker, by the way, know only to send messages to ‘European ministers’. Can they produce those messages?
Coveney would have the details of Irish Ministers and opposition deputies in his phone. Were any of them sent messages? I’m sure the FFers would back up his story if that were the case.
Coveney is the boyo who lied to us about the Da’s offshore account. He has form. He’s caught now, and he doesn’t like it. Varadkar isn’t watching his house, and Proper Charlie Nazi Flanagan isn’t either.
Did Francie Fitzgerald like the finger food at the Merrion?
The Taxman Cometh.
Make sure all your affairs are in order.
We can find out everything.
You have been warned.
The Taxman Cometh
You might think you can get away with it but we have eyes everywhere.
And an anonymous tip-off line.
You’d be amazed how much info we receive.
Do the right thing and pay your taxes.
An audit is the last thing you need.
f_lawless
Sinister stuff – the UK government is set to defy the recommendation of their own medical advisory group and are going to push ahead with the mass vaccination of 12-15 year olds regardless. Because the JCVI concluded that the case wasn’t there from a health perspective, the UK government are simply inventing new spurious reasons “from a wider perspective” to circumvent and disregard that advice – eg. as per The Times: “the harm done by coronavirus to children’s education and mental health” – again not distinguishing between “coronavirus” and “government pandemic response” (over-the-top restrictive measures, fear-based messaging, etc). Incidentally, that’s the same line taken a month or so ago by Professor Karina Butler, Chair of Ireland’s National Immunisation Advisory Committee, when recommending the vaccination of Irish 12-15 year olds.
E'Matty
Exactly. They impose restrictions, we all foretold at the time would be hugely damaging to children, not least their mental health. Now, they use the very harm they themselves caused by those measures to impose the next tranche of insane policies. This time, vaccinating kids. Again, please note the age being applied, 12, Generation Z and above all to be vaxxed. Alpha look to be the new world kids. Anyone who still believes this has all been to fight a virus needs their head checked. Parents allowing this should hang their heads in shame. Using their kids as human shields against their own irrational conditioned fear and pathetic intellectual deficiencies.
Nigel
Is the vaccine going to kill everyone who takes it? I’m really unclear on the mechanics of the global population cull.
chris
0.167% unvaxxed (253 out of 151 054)
0.041% 21 days of 1 dose (69 out of 46 089)
0.855% 2 doses (402 out of 47 008)
2 dose vs unvaxxed death chances – 5.1197:1
From the latest UK figures, 5x more likely to die if vaccinated. If ADE happens, then yes probably most will die.
Nigel
Or to put it another way, since the majority of people in the UK are now vaccinated, the number of people infected now includes proportionately less people overall, but more people who are vaccinated, and though the vaccination increases your protection against the virus and variants by about twenty times that of an unvaccinated person, it can’t offset the risk of just being an older person who has caught the virus or variant. In other words if an older vaccinated person catches covid, they’re still at serious risk of death.
Worst. Global. Cull. Ever.
chris
Doesn’t the doublethink ever tire you Nigel? I’ll admit it’s an easier recourse that accepting the cognitive dissonance of facing facts but I fear you’ll never be one of those. You’ve become so adept at the old doublethink that you may even have a teaching position in the politburo to be.
Double plus good Nigel!
Nigel
It’s not doublethink, it’s just thinking, which you find twice as hard as not thinking, apparently, hence the rote cliches and appeals to Orwell.
chris
But in my first post I just presented data, it is you who felt the need to conjure absurdities to ‘explain it away’, not I. Which begs the question, why do you have to do mental gymnastics when presented with raw data?
Nigel
When I challenged your interpretation of the data you started babbling about doublethink, you neither defended your interpretation nor challenged mine.
…I think what the Greta generation are warning is that unless we take action now there won’t be another generation after them…
Tom J
the Greta generation find it hard to get out of bed in the mornings.
Rosette of Sirius
So did you at their age. That’s science for ya.
Tom J
Out working at 13.
Rosette of Sirius
That’s neither here nor there…. kids need more sleep….
Tom J
I’m off to have a nap, old age and all that.
Janet, dreams of an alternate universe
That’s a Clarke quote from the end of our world isn’t it when the last generation reach the last stage of evolution ? Childhoods end ? All the other generations die in a ball of flames don’t they ?
chris
It’s hardly a conspiracy when it’s made defacto policy now is it.
Nigel
The devilish conspiracy of openly implementing clearly flagged policies consistent with previous statements and scientific consensus.
scottser
Not hanging a hat on the anti-vax peg, but government responses to the pandemic were not ‘clearly flagged’, they were anything but clear, consistent or fair. I’m not convinced about consensus among scientists and advisors either, unless its to cover their backsides.
Nigel
I mean ‘things that might happen if certain other things happen’ have been discussed and debated and suggested, but yes I suppose the gulfs between the Tories, their advisors and the scientific consensus should not be underestimated.
Cui Bono?
Sounds like you’re in denial.
Fez
Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the immigrins
SOQ
Tighe’s Cylon- do you even think before you type? What f_lawless is talking about is fact and in the pubic domain.
Some people really seem to operate on such a personal level that the subject being discussed doesn’t even register.
Poor oul divil
Hahahahaha
SOQ
@ f_lawless. Yes, even the ‘experts’ are now jumping ship, even they cannot justify the injuries which will occur.
That a government would go against its own scientific advice in such a manner is bizarre and will lead to a legal minefield once young people start to get sick or die. We can only speculate as to why this is happening but any parent which allows such now, is beyond irresponsible.
jungleman
You also believed Trump’s claim that the Dems stole the election.
SOQ
Presenting evidence of the questionable tech systems used. is not the same as believing the last US election was stolen darlin. Now have you anything relevant to say before the Calpol kicks in?
SOQ
Presenting evidence of the questionable tech systems used is not the same as believing the last US election was stolen darlin.
Now have you anything relevant to say before the Calpol kicks in?
SOQ
I use Brave- how are we doing with the old Reply button BS cowboys?
I really hope Apple don’t let their initiative slide, so disappointing that it’s been halted. It’s too important and those scumbags need to be rooted out of society.
Poor oul divil
Slippery slope though birdie
Birdie
I take your point poor oul deval. I read into more thanks to the helpful comments (Broadsheet.ie is great for some informative comments that always challenge me to see the other side of the argument).
I guess I’m coming from it from an emotive viewpoint due to how awful child exploitation is and having a feeling of hopelessness when it comes to stopping it.
Birdie
Divil even!
Micko
Is this the looking through photos thing?
Bad idea I think.
SOQ
It’s not just photos, read / write permissions don’t work like that- its everything.
The next thing you will know, the entire device will be cloned on an hourly basis- for you own convenience of course, whether you want it or not.
Micko
So is it going ahead?
Very concerning. Even from the point of view that a human operator would have to look at your pics, were they flagged by accident.
Same as Facebook etc. People think it’s AI handling all of it, but operators are making the call on thousands of images every day.
Afraid a dumb phone won’t do – I’m a total Apple slave dude.
Macbooks, Macs, iPads , watches, iphones, AirPods, TV , 2tb cloud storage -the whole load of it.
I even have one of their smart speakers so the guys are listening to me.
…they have me by the boop boops man ;-)
Lilly
Very odd piece in today’s Times, titled Why Does Sally Rooney Wind People Up? A few mean-spirited comments scraped from Twitter and far-flung media under the guise of analysis suggests the columnist, Jennifer O’Connell, is the one being wound up, most likely beset by the green-eyed monster.
Birdie
Yeah definitely jealousy I’d say Lily. More power to her for her deserved success. Her writing has a breathless addictiveness to it despite the unlikeable characters! Just my opinion.
Lilly
I agree, Birdie. I don’t like her characters either. I’m not even sure I will read her new book. I read a couple of excerpts and found them bleak, although the writing was wonderfully tense. But that’s beside the point. What I like about Rooney, apart from her achievements so far, is that she’s doing it entirely on her terms. No hawking her book from Ryan Tubridy to Brendan O’Connor repeating the same ole shtick ad nauseam. She has done her job, let someone else sell it.
The O’Connell piece felt entirely disingenuous, a flimsy excuse to repeat some snide comments and paint Rooney in an awkward light while adopting a faux-concerned mien.
Birdie
Great comment Lily, I agree with everything you said. It just smacks of trying to dull the shine of a very talented person that won’t play the local circuit.
goldenbrown
wow
Azerbaijan
I had to look up where to find them on the map
Delaney and the boys quaffed champagne and fupped the books
while the GAA and rugby got their act together and stole all the talent
there’s no recovery here
not in my lifetime
Irish football is dead and buried RIP
Birdie
Yeah it was a pretty bleak game. Great analysis by Lisa Fallon though.
Birdie
Yeah it was a pretty bleak game. Great analysis by Lisa Fallon though.
The Examiner – Fionn’s the dog, right? Fair play.
Of course, if you read the details underneath, you’d see the dog’s name is Milo. (Or 1.6 kilometers-o in today’s money.)
Sub editor having a bad day..? Criminal Coveney blamed for hacking phone… fixed now..
Hack? – Mehole.
The ‘special advisor’, ex Dinnytalk, Chris Donohue isn’t giving value for money.
If a phone is hacked, then no amount of deleting messages will protect you. Once hacked, messages and the whole memory of the phone is available to the hacker – instantly.
How would a hacker, by the way, know only to send messages to ‘European ministers’. Can they produce those messages?
Coveney would have the details of Irish Ministers and opposition deputies in his phone. Were any of them sent messages? I’m sure the FFers would back up his story if that were the case.
Coveney is the boyo who lied to us about the Da’s offshore account. He has form. He’s caught now, and he doesn’t like it. Varadkar isn’t watching his house, and Proper Charlie Nazi Flanagan isn’t either.
Did Francie Fitzgerald like the finger food at the Merrion?
Make sure all your affairs are in order.
We can find out everything.
You have been warned.
You might think you can get away with it but we have eyes everywhere.
And an anonymous tip-off line.
You’d be amazed how much info we receive.
Do the right thing and pay your taxes.
An audit is the last thing you need.
Sinister stuff – the UK government is set to defy the recommendation of their own medical advisory group and are going to push ahead with the mass vaccination of 12-15 year olds regardless. Because the JCVI concluded that the case wasn’t there from a health perspective, the UK government are simply inventing new spurious reasons “from a wider perspective” to circumvent and disregard that advice – eg. as per The Times: “the harm done by coronavirus to children’s education and mental health” – again not distinguishing between “coronavirus” and “government pandemic response” (over-the-top restrictive measures, fear-based messaging, etc). Incidentally, that’s the same line taken a month or so ago by Professor Karina Butler, Chair of Ireland’s National Immunisation Advisory Committee, when recommending the vaccination of Irish 12-15 year olds.
Exactly. They impose restrictions, we all foretold at the time would be hugely damaging to children, not least their mental health. Now, they use the very harm they themselves caused by those measures to impose the next tranche of insane policies. This time, vaccinating kids. Again, please note the age being applied, 12, Generation Z and above all to be vaxxed. Alpha look to be the new world kids. Anyone who still believes this has all been to fight a virus needs their head checked. Parents allowing this should hang their heads in shame. Using their kids as human shields against their own irrational conditioned fear and pathetic intellectual deficiencies.
Is the vaccine going to kill everyone who takes it? I’m really unclear on the mechanics of the global population cull.
0.167% unvaxxed (253 out of 151 054)
0.041% 21 days of 1 dose (69 out of 46 089)
0.855% 2 doses (402 out of 47 008)
2 dose vs unvaxxed death chances – 5.1197:1
From the latest UK figures, 5x more likely to die if vaccinated. If ADE happens, then yes probably most will die.
Or to put it another way, since the majority of people in the UK are now vaccinated, the number of people infected now includes proportionately less people overall, but more people who are vaccinated, and though the vaccination increases your protection against the virus and variants by about twenty times that of an unvaccinated person, it can’t offset the risk of just being an older person who has caught the virus or variant. In other words if an older vaccinated person catches covid, they’re still at serious risk of death.
Worst. Global. Cull. Ever.
Doesn’t the doublethink ever tire you Nigel? I’ll admit it’s an easier recourse that accepting the cognitive dissonance of facing facts but I fear you’ll never be one of those. You’ve become so adept at the old doublethink that you may even have a teaching position in the politburo to be.
Double plus good Nigel!
It’s not doublethink, it’s just thinking, which you find twice as hard as not thinking, apparently, hence the rote cliches and appeals to Orwell.
But in my first post I just presented data, it is you who felt the need to conjure absurdities to ‘explain it away’, not I. Which begs the question, why do you have to do mental gymnastics when presented with raw data?
When I challenged your interpretation of the data you started babbling about doublethink, you neither defended your interpretation nor challenged mine.
+1
Latest from Canada…
https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/over-100-ontario-youth-have-been-sent-to-hospital-for-vaccine-related-heart-problems
Seriously? At this stage so you just see conspiracies everywhere or is it something you work at?
‘…your sons and your daughters are beyond your command’…g’wan the Greta generation…
The Greta generation are the ones causing the pollution, with the their smartphones and tablets, and the next generation will be worse.
…I think what the Greta generation are warning is that unless we take action now there won’t be another generation after them…
the Greta generation find it hard to get out of bed in the mornings.
So did you at their age. That’s science for ya.
Out working at 13.
That’s neither here nor there…. kids need more sleep….
I’m off to have a nap, old age and all that.
That’s a Clarke quote from the end of our world isn’t it when the last generation reach the last stage of evolution ? Childhoods end ? All the other generations die in a ball of flames don’t they ?
It’s hardly a conspiracy when it’s made defacto policy now is it.
The devilish conspiracy of openly implementing clearly flagged policies consistent with previous statements and scientific consensus.
Not hanging a hat on the anti-vax peg, but government responses to the pandemic were not ‘clearly flagged’, they were anything but clear, consistent or fair. I’m not convinced about consensus among scientists and advisors either, unless its to cover their backsides.
I mean ‘things that might happen if certain other things happen’ have been discussed and debated and suggested, but yes I suppose the gulfs between the Tories, their advisors and the scientific consensus should not be underestimated.
Sounds like you’re in denial.
Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the immigrins
Tighe’s Cylon- do you even think before you type? What f_lawless is talking about is fact and in the pubic domain.
Some people really seem to operate on such a personal level that the subject being discussed doesn’t even register.
Hahahahaha
@ f_lawless. Yes, even the ‘experts’ are now jumping ship, even they cannot justify the injuries which will occur.
That a government would go against its own scientific advice in such a manner is bizarre and will lead to a legal minefield once young people start to get sick or die. We can only speculate as to why this is happening but any parent which allows such now, is beyond irresponsible.
You also believed Trump’s claim that the Dems stole the election.
Presenting evidence of the questionable tech systems used. is not the same as believing the last US election was stolen darlin. Now have you anything relevant to say before the Calpol kicks in?
Presenting evidence of the questionable tech systems used is not the same as believing the last US election was stolen darlin.
Now have you anything relevant to say before the Calpol kicks in?
I use Brave- how are we doing with the old Reply button BS cowboys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P87slgXb34Y
You didn’t present any evidence.
And the real point is you wanted trump to be proven correct because you’re an alt-right-winger with an unhealthy appetite for conspiracy theories.
Yes I am- you win.
Calpol hasn’t kicked in obviously for Tarzan. I don’t know why you even bother trying to teach it. It’s a very bold it.
Meanwhile even more sinister stuff in the US…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/oklahoma-doctor-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus
20 years ago the UK Guardian was whatever. Now, creatives cringe if they even get mentioned- no matter what age.
Cash strapped developers?
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/state-fund-to-enter-property-market-with-500-million-1.2296580
If they’re cash strapped, why not establish a sovereign investment fund like that established in 2015, and loan them money?
What’s the rub here?
It’ll rub off on us for sure.
I really hope Apple don’t let their initiative slide, so disappointing that it’s been halted. It’s too important and those scumbags need to be rooted out of society.
Slippery slope though birdie
I take your point poor oul deval. I read into more thanks to the helpful comments (Broadsheet.ie is great for some informative comments that always challenge me to see the other side of the argument).
I guess I’m coming from it from an emotive viewpoint due to how awful child exploitation is and having a feeling of hopelessness when it comes to stopping it.
Divil even!
Is this the looking through photos thing?
Bad idea I think.
It’s not just photos, read / write permissions don’t work like that- its everything.
The next thing you will know, the entire device will be cloned on an hourly basis- for you own convenience of course, whether you want it or not.
So is it going ahead?
Very concerning. Even from the point of view that a human operator would have to look at your pics, were they flagged by accident.
Same as Facebook etc. People think it’s AI handling all of it, but operators are making the call on thousands of images every day.
Start by using a dumb phone.
Laptop ops have a legal compliance.
AI is nowhere near ‘I’.
It is mainly BS to sell more BS- cloud computing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bInVs28O3eA
Urrrgh
Afraid a dumb phone won’t do – I’m a total Apple slave dude.
Macbooks, Macs, iPads , watches, iphones, AirPods, TV , 2tb cloud storage -the whole load of it.
I even have one of their smart speakers so the guys are listening to me.
…they have me by the boop boops man ;-)
Very odd piece in today’s Times, titled Why Does Sally Rooney Wind People Up? A few mean-spirited comments scraped from Twitter and far-flung media under the guise of analysis suggests the columnist, Jennifer O’Connell, is the one being wound up, most likely beset by the green-eyed monster.
Yeah definitely jealousy I’d say Lily. More power to her for her deserved success. Her writing has a breathless addictiveness to it despite the unlikeable characters! Just my opinion.
I agree, Birdie. I don’t like her characters either. I’m not even sure I will read her new book. I read a couple of excerpts and found them bleak, although the writing was wonderfully tense. But that’s beside the point. What I like about Rooney, apart from her achievements so far, is that she’s doing it entirely on her terms. No hawking her book from Ryan Tubridy to Brendan O’Connor repeating the same ole shtick ad nauseam. She has done her job, let someone else sell it.
The O’Connell piece felt entirely disingenuous, a flimsy excuse to repeat some snide comments and paint Rooney in an awkward light while adopting a faux-concerned mien.
Great comment Lily, I agree with everything you said. It just smacks of trying to dull the shine of a very talented person that won’t play the local circuit.
wow
Azerbaijan
I had to look up where to find them on the map
Delaney and the boys quaffed champagne and fupped the books
while the GAA and rugby got their act together and stole all the talent
there’s no recovery here
not in my lifetime
Irish football is dead and buried RIP
Yeah it was a pretty bleak game. Great analysis by Lisa Fallon though.
Yeah it was a pretty bleak game. Great analysis by Lisa Fallon though.