Professor Martin Cormican, Professor of Bacteriology at NUI Galway
This morning.
Third vaccine shots for the immunocompromised are being administered while booster shots will be offered to everyone over 80, and people over 65 in residential settings from next week.
Via RTE News:
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, HSE lead for infection control Professor Martin Cormican said the programmes should run smoothly and there is currently a “very good supply” of the vaccine in Ireland.
The additional dose for the immunocompromised will include anyone over the age of 12, but in the first instance it will be offered to those aged 16 and over, he added.
“There will be a little delay for those between the ages 12 and 15,” he said.
He explained that the reason for this is because they were vaccinated later and there is a need to wait two months.
“That is where you get the most benefit if you allow the interval of two months to go by.”
Prof Cormican said for this third dose or booster vaccine the HSE will make contact with people.
Extra Covid-19 vaccine, booster dose roll-out to get under way (RTÉ)
Meanwhile…
🟥 Vaccination Status of COVID-19 Deaths in Ireland between 1st April & 25th Sep 2021
🙏 301 deaths with lab confirmed Covid-19
🔶 153/301 (50.8%) were not vaccinated.
🔶 148/301 (49.2%) had at least one dose of vaccine
🔶 103/301 (34.2%) were fully vaccinated pic.twitter.com/iWjDnUbbMY— Con Murphy (@ConMurphyCarlow) October 1, 2021
Um.
Why is the HSE giving a gender/age/underlying conditions breakdown of the vaccinated, but not the unvaccinated?
Surely the unvaccinated details are just as relevant?
Where would they get that information?
HPSC are notified of all Covid deaths – including gender and age.
Whoever is adding the vaccination status must also know their ages & gender.
What a ridiculous question, george.
i bet even if they did give a comprehensive overview of the unvaccinated you’d still find a reason to moan.
All I am asking is that like be compared with like- is that so unreasonable?
People provided their info when registering for vaccination. People who didn’t register didn’t provide their info. The HSE don’t have a list of unvaccinated people so that’s what is unreasonable.
SOQ is right. The data for the unvaccinated should be shown too.
This is, after all, just those Covid deaths without vaccination. So their gender/age should be known.
I am asking the question because it is slanting by omission. Most people will look at the vaccinated stats and think- mainly elderly and already in bad health, so nothing to do with the vaccines.
But if it is the case that the unvaccinated largely fall into the same categories- which is highly likely- than the efficacy of the vaccine is more likely to be questioned.
So, you’d expect the HSE would not collect any data on people who died of Covid, if those people were unvaccinated?
Stop wasting our time, george.
The post said “unvaccinated” not “unvaccinated people who died” so I misunderstood, my mistake.
Anyway the point only makes sense if you are focused on some perceived conflict between vaccinanted vs un-vaccinated and that isn’t the HSE’s viewpoint. We know plenty about why vaccinated people die from covid-19 at this point and from a medical point of view a focus on learning about the deaths the vaccinated is understandable.
If you view the HSE as the enemy and unvaccinated people as victims the complaint might make sense.
I bet even if SOQ didn’t enquire about important information you’d still find a reason to moan, scottser.
ah here, you’d give a eunuch a bleedn ballache.
Your anti-vaxx stance really is tiresome
Spin the tweet another way and say
Thanks to the fabulous effort of the vaccination roll-out, leaving aside those with underlying health conditions, there were only 39 Covid attributed deaths of fully vaccinated people in the last 6 months.
I’d say that’s pretty good. 45 deaths of people with “at least one dose” is irrelevant statistically because one dose doesn’t protect you – they might as well be lumped in with the 153.
29/09/2020 – [0% fully vaccinated]- Indoor socialising/events open for everybody- Hospital: 117 ICU: 18
29/09/2021 – [91% fully vaccinated]- Indoor socialising/events open for vaccinated only- Hospital: 300 ICU: 60
Some progress eh?
29/09/2019 – [0% fully vaccinated]- Indoor socialising/events open for everybody- Hospital: 0 ICU: 0
Yes no Covid-19 figures before Covid-19 arrived- imagine that?
Oh, and you are wrong. Dublin was at Level 3 from Sept 19th; Cases were rising, and continuing to rise..
1,802 deaths this day last year; 5,249 today
You were still saying there wouldn’t be a second wave: LOL
SOQ September 13, 2020 at 2:29 pm
The pandemic ended in May Nigel- and there will be no second wave because there never was one before. China’s season is three months ahead of here- so where is it?
So Cian is admitting that he is keeping a record of comments made by particular individuals- how interesting.
Just for the good of his health- obviously.
Yes I keep a copy of every single post on Broadsheet.
But it is publicly available here: https://www.broadsheet.ie
Enough about me.
12 months ago were you wrong about the second wave or not?
@SOQ yeah there’s something dodge with that.
“ 12 months ago were you wrong about the second wave or not?”
Jesus Christ. Lads, lads…
We’ve ALL been wrong on a whole host of things over the past 18 months.
No one here is psychic or infallible.
We can’t expect someone to be correct all the time and you can’t claim, that them being wrong on something is some sort of “gotcha moment.”
It’s just silly. Let it go – please.
A better question is how the eff are we going to get out if this mess? The Government are talking about extending restrictions apparently – for how long?
Why? Are we still in an emergency?
Heads forward, not in the past.
Micko, the tin foilers have called it right from the start. Maybe we can start by treating them with a little more respect? Maybe even get them some cake. Whatever works.
@Cian so why didn’t you post the comment link on the site?
Or is it the case that you are recording such externally?
You have been challenged on this before of course.
Bodger. I don’t care who was right or wrong anymore.
That’s in the past. The people who want to be vaccinated are vaccinated. The vaccine rollout is pretty much finished.
We’ve now 7% of people who are unvax’d being discriminated against for no reason. (possibly permanently if Oct 22nd doesn’t go ahead) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We can keep on going on about who was right or wrong, but it helps no one. And I know I’ve been guilty of that to, but I’m done.
Really think we should all be discussing a way out of this mess and focus on what’s happening now. Not discussing what someone said 12 months ago
Cian seems unable to keep track of what year it is, though.
use google
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/09/13/sundays-papers-50/#comment-2239395
and, to answer your question, no I don’t “recording such externally?”.
“At least I won the Mums!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wi7SYKDvY4
Spooky. It’s almost as if something infectious is stalking the land and has been infecting more and more people as it progressed.
Yes, ferganainm, Fear is “stalking the land”, using lies, disinformation, fake science & propaganda to portray the equivalent of a bad flu season as a Pandemic.
wearnicehats, no other vaccine required more than one dose to grant immunity, to claim that one dose of these gene therapies is equivalent to none is just silly, stop it.
Not following the math, there.
50.8+49.2+34.2=134.2%?
153+148+103=404 of 301?
I assume the ‘at least one dose’ and the ‘within 14 days’ is leading to overlap?
Also, 103 w/vaxx deaths = 103 breakthrough cases? Surely not all breakthrough infections lead to death? That would be grim indeed.
The made no distinction between from and with before, so why should they change that means of categorisation just because someone is vaccinated?
This has…nothing to do with my comment.
We’ll see, Nigel. “Breakthrough Cases”, the newspeak term for Complete Vaccine Failure, will yield far higher mortality rates than Sars02 infection.
The stupidity of declaring every positive PCR test a “case” makes that a mathematical certainty.
Hasn’t so far.
Take a day off SOQ ffs, step away from the keyboard and go outside and get some fresh air.
Keep posting SOQ
+1
Take the rest of your life off, QOS, you troll.
The vaccine roll out began in January. Why has the data for the Jan-Mar period been omitted? This was the period during which there was a big spike in nursing home deaths officially attributed to Covid – in mid Feb it was announced that a quarter of all Covid deaths to date had happened in the previous 4 weeks alone.
Take the tragedy which occurred in nursing home at Lusk in January as one example: on the day of scheduled vaccination at the home, there were already known to be a number Covid positive test cases at the home. Just a week later, 11 deaths were reported to have occurred. All Irish media outlets reported in the same ambiguous manner about those deaths – never making it clear whether those who’d died had received the vaccine or not. But if none had received the vaccine, it surely would have been explicitly stated.
There’s now a wealth of evidence in countries around the world showing that in the 2 weeks post vaccination, people can become immuno-suppressed, leaving the frail of health particularly vulnerable to Covid.
Wait, should the HSE have skipped the Lusk home because there was a Covid outbreak there?
Seriously. Can you imagine the scandal if that happened. “HSE refuse to vaccinate most at-risk”. You would have a field-day.
It’s not a good idea to vaccinate in the middle of an endemic virus event. That’s how you get leaky vaccines and ADE.
It’s also not a good idea to insist that everyone get unapproved concoctions with no long term safety data and very questionable short term safety data (no control group).
Has anybody seen those pictures of vaxxed vs unvaxxed blood under a microscope?
The details are too shocking/horrific to post here but if/when verified these vax pushers will not be able to walk down the street.
So just let the virus run its course for, say, five years, then vaccinate the survivors, is it?
Well, it’s a plan, I suppose, but I wouldn’t call it a great one.
Vaccinate the survivors? It’s a cold not ebola.
Why bother to make up silly rhetorical positions & claim they’re the only alternative to experimenting on an entire population with half-assed, rushed-out gene therapy, Ferganainm?
You know that’s gonna be called out here for the idiotic showboating it is, right?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molnupiravir
“Molnupiravir (development codes MK-4482 and EIDD-2801) is an experimental antiviral drug which is orally active and was developed for the treatment of influenza.”
There are some stories floating around about aggressive or fast moving forms of cancer emerging- whether that is due to the reduction in dialogistic health services during lockdowns or something connected to the vaccines, remains to be seen.
One Irish GP with forty years experience has been cited- but not named as yet.
The problem, SOQ, is that any & all of these reports are entirely believable, because we have absolutely no idea what effects these gene therapies may have.
What an utterly bizarre situation to be in.
What a shameful disregard for citizens’ safety.
What utterly reckless behaviour by the State.
My aunt’s neighbour’s second cousin says that this is a lie.
Criminal Prosecutions have already begun for those that shought to deny therapeutics.
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/25/covid-scientist-faces-death-penalty-india-may-execute-a-world-health-organization-scientist-for-misleading-the-public-about-ivermectin/
SOQ, it seems to be directly linked to the injections, the tsunami of suffering & death from the completely unjustified withdrawal of basic health services has yet to arrive.
“Can you imagine the scandal if that happened. “HSE refuse to vaccinate most at-risk”. You would have a field-day.”
The HSE are pulling services from my pal’s child who has special needs.
It was all over Virgin Media News and the Tonight Show last night and in the newspapers the last week.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/parents-concerned-after-therapists-are-removed-from-school-40899107.html
The HSE have bare faced lied in a statement they released and said “they aren’t” removing services – they are.
The HSE are a law until themselves Cian – they can do what they want now.
Similarly, basic dental care for medical card holders has been withdrawn by the HSE.
The new normal is going to be a lot colder than the old. .
Yes; quite literally with exponentially increasing fuel crises which will exacerbate people’s misery and physical, mental and oral health.
It’s disgusting.
And food shortages by November.. It’s sadistic and planned. There’s really not much we can do other than develop a sense of solidarity that is so surely needed.
I think your second sentence answered the question in your first, f.
“It’s just a cold”
Says a lot about the ‘expertise’ on offer here.
You’re in no position to mumble about ‘expertise’ and you got the quote wrong to boot.
It wasn’t a quote, it was a précis of the ‘brilliance’ being offered here by the terminally bewildered.
Ah so your projecting then? Whatever gets you through the day sure.
Chris, if there’s one thing you can be relied on for it’s for never making an impression – or any sense. Struggle on.
I ain’t struggling but you sure seem bewildered.
Ferganainn, it’s a lipid-encapsulated single-strand positive sense RNA virus of the family Coronaviridae, a novel type of viruses that normally give us upper respiratory infections referred to as the Common Cold, which poses very little risk to anyone but the ill & elderly.
This is all scientific fact, even if not dramatic or apocalyptic enough for you or the fake science super-spreaders in the media & government.
Now, display your own “expertise” by disputing any of that.
Explain all the deaths for us, there’s a good lad.
There’s too many big words there, you’ll just confuse him.
You’re right Chris, he’s well confused – and did you notice how he posted ‘a novel type of viruses’, thus betraying an inability to employ or follow basic grammatical rules as they apply to plurals?
And he didn’t even differentiate between Alphacoronavirus (αCoV), Betacoronavirus (βCoV), Gammacoronavirus (γCoV), and Deltacoronavirus (δCoV).
Proper spoofer he is, right?
It was directed at you actually, but given your reasoning skills I’m unsurprised by your confusion. So rather than dispute you looked for a grammatical mistake? I suppose for some, that can’t make sense of the world, petty trolling offers some comfort.
@K Cavan – an estimated 25,000 people in Ireland are suffering with long Covid. When was the last time you were still sick 19 months after getting the flu?
Ontario finally reading the signals:
https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/ontario-now-recommending-against-moderna-vaccine-for-men-18-24-years-old
Poor Chris – file under ‘Doesn’t even know when he’s being mocked’
Mocked? By a Branch Covidian? Bless your cotton socks, that was my 1st LOL of the day.
There’s a strong likelihood that you’re often given to laughing out loud for no reason that anyone else can discern.
Twenty minutes to come up with that? Scarleh fer yer Ma,
yeah, but you don’t talk. you snivel, connive, sneer and splutter but you rarely ever have something of worth to say.
I’m throwing out pearls, that some are intercepted by swine is not my problem.