From top: US Chief Medical Advisor Dr Anthony Fauci, Sir Jeremy Farrer, director of the Wellcome Trust and a former member of SAGE
This afternoon.
Sir Jeremy Farrar, an advisor to SAGE – UK’s NPHET -, who publicly denounced the theory that a lab leak was the ‘likely’ origin of Covid as a ‘conspiracy’, admitted in a private email in February 2020 that a ‘likely explanation’ was that the virus was man-made.
Via MailOnline:
In an email, sent to American health chiefs Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins, Sir Jeremy said it was possible Covid had been evolved from a Sars-like virus in the lab. He went on that this seemingly benign process may have ‘accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans’.
But the British scientist was shut down by his counterparts in the US who warned further debate about the origins of the virus could damage ‘international harmony’.
He was told by other scientists with links to virus manipulation research that it could cause ‘unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular’.
Sir Jeremy claimed in his emails that other respected scientists also believed the virus could not have emerged naturally. Names included Professor Mike Farzan, the Harvard researcher who first discovered how the original Sars virus binds to human cells.
Despite his concerns, Sir Jeremy went on to sign letters in The Lancet a fortnight later denouncing anyone who believed in the lab leak theory as bigoted.
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When is BS anti-vaxxer freaks on the TV going to be put up? I’m guessing it’s going to be comedy gold.
Sara, we have three people confirmed for tomorrow at 9pm and hope to have two more by then.
Excellent! Looking forward to it!
Why are they freaks?
You know nothing about them; yet like social media encourages, already casting judgment…..
…if you has to guess,amongst the probable or possible five panel team,how many have attended third level education:)
I have a PhD and no vaccine – what about you johnny?
…which part of on the panel don’t you understand ?
ah johnny
disappointed
I thought you of all people would know that a stamp from TCD means fck all necessarily
I know lads with masters stamps many of whom adore themselves but I wouldn’t let them operate so much as a toaster
Doesn’t matter if you’ve a degree or not, ignorance is everywhere. I know a few people who have degrees and who are hesitant about the vaccine. And vice versa. Some of the most ignorant people in Ireland work as lecturers. And that Dolores Cahill person has more degrees than you could shake a stick at.
ffs….. such a judgmental and insulting comment.
This might be why BS are struggling to get unvaccinated on their show.
Nah, it’s because the unvaccinated are incredibly brave and full of their convictions. Almost too brave and full of their convictions.
Jesus johnny that’s rich,
judging by most of your posts, I’d be surprised if you had junior cert English.
….i dont actually refused speak it growing up,was as gaeilge home and latin with lots Joyce,only picked it up in new york:)
That sounds like a ripe load of bollocks, as my Da likes to say.
Pinocchio IS a real boy
“I will tell you what I will do and what I will not do. I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it calls itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can, using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use — silence, exile, and cunning.”
― Joyce
“To be without guile is to be free of deceit, cunning, hypocrisy, and dishonesty in thought or action. To beguile is to deceive or lead astray, as Lucifer beguiled Eve in the Garden of Eden.”
Each to their own.
what does it say about lack of self awareness ?
You spoke Joyce growing up? Ha!
Did he think the lab-leak theory was a conspiracy theory, or did he think that the virus was deliberately released from a lab where it had been manufactured for this purpose, or some variations therof, of which there are many, was a conspiracy theory? Crucial difference.
He lied. That is enough.
Is it worth pointing out that nothing has been proved about whether or not it leaked from a lab? No? Carry on.
It has been established it was created in a lab. It’s in the DARPA report.
No it hasn’t.
to keep the new world leaders happy. when winnie throws a fit, he invades countries.
I don’t think he’s a conspiracy theorist in this matter. So there’s nothing to crucially differentiate between then.
What it is though, is that anyone who questioned or alluded to what he has now (and Fauci too by the way) been caught out on, was a conspiracy theorist.
Slowly but surely the information is coming out, and the theorists seem to have been correct in some matters.
‘ the theorists seem to have been correct in some matters.’
They remain conspiracy theorists. They make it more difficult to get to the truth by inventing fictions.
No, you make the truth harder to expose, by lies and obfuscation.
How, by preferring the truth to your made-up fantasies? To Project Veritas’ right wing culture war propaganda? Still remember how that guy dressed as a pimp and Republicans used the results to cut the funding to an organisation providing health services to women and poor people. This is just more of that evil.
seriously nigel, there’s no proof because nobody has looked for it – investigations so far have been about optics.
Genuine question Nigel, how is this “more of that evil”?
Unless I’m missing something, this is based almost totally on documents released from Department of Defense and now, from a UK Scientist’s emails.
How is this a made up fantasy or evil conspiracy?
Investigating the origin of the virus (properly, yes scottser, if they haven’t been doing that, then the outcome is the same: we still don’t know) is not evil. The conspiracy theories surrounding them are nonsense, but when politicians seize on them, whether they believe them or are cynically appeasing a base that believes them, the outcome will be evil, and it’ll be like the defunding of Planned Parenthood – maing life worse for the most vulnerable.
nigel, there’s a BIG difference between ‘we don’t know’ and ‘we really don’t want to know’. you of all people know not to take governments at their word..
Of course there is. Inventing fantasies about it doesn’t help.
Funny how you steered away from your initial comment asking if he had two different conspiracy theories, when he hadn’t any. Why are you all over the place with your comments – obfuscation?
What could I possibly be obfuscating? This may have been the wrong response to a situation mired in disinformation and conspiracy theories, but it still has to be understood in that context. They need to learn the lesson that you can’t send ammo to an ammo factory – the conspiracy theories are being fed from an endless self-generating supply.
‘This may have been the wrong response to a situation mired in disinformation and conspiracy theories,’
And off you go again.
I get that you get disoriented when people say things to which you have no glib response.
Says the head glib response honcho.
Oh. Do you covet the role of Head Glib Response Honcho?
You’re losing heavily this afternoon Nigel. Hence your off the wall comments. Tsk.
Is that how you see these exhanges? Comeptitions with winners and losers? No wonder you never say anything worth while but spend all your time fencing and looking for gotchas and trying to catch people out and inventing victory conditions.
You’re describing yourself quite well Nigel. I say ‘losing’ because when you run out of diversions, you come out with stupidity.
Oscillating wildly
You say losing because you can’t relate to people any other way.
@johnny
‘how many have attended third level education’
I suspect that, like those who believe in the ‘official narrative’, the team who are going to discuss why they have chosen not to recieve the vaccine (to use a convenient term) will be representative of a cross-section of general populace, as regards their levels of education. Why should they be better or less-well qualified? Or more or less articulate, for that matter?
People who question the official narrrative come from all walks of life. I make no bones about my stance as being very much opposed to the most of the restrictions and discrimination but I do not think that people who think differently from me are uneducated idiots. I recognise that they may have reasons that have convinced them of their viewpoint and, so long as they do not go round slinging insults, instead of putting forward their arguments in reasonable terms, I can respect them but not agree with them.
In view of the way that those who ask questions or hold viewpoints like mine are treated and the fact that their jobs and other aspects of their lives may be at risk, I do not think it surprising that it has taken a while to put together a team. Well done to those who are going to appear! Those of us whose personal situation has prevented us from taking part are grateful to you for carrying the flag.
Well after all that lab was a joint venture between USA and China
The eating bats theory is less damaging for two of the most toxic nations on this planet
Can you just make up quotes and put them in a headline? Apparently the Daily Mail can. He said “a likely explanation” and never wrote “most likely”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jan/12/boris-johnson-no-10-party-pmqs-keir-starmer-labour-coronavirus-latest-updates-covid-live
Poor Boris can’t tell the difference between a party and a work meeting.
A bit like Simon Coveney then who attended a similar party to the one Boris was at.
But of course the Irish media are mindful of their betters and decline to pursue the matter.
RTE haven’t covered the story at all – the fact that Simon Coveney’s brother, Rory Coveney, is strategic advisor to the RTÉ director-general is mere happenstance.[ * ]
However, just in case you’ve forgotten, your regular reminder that here in Ireland
– The Tánaiste is under criminal investigation
– Several Govt TDs are under criminal trial for breaking lockdown rules
* Update RTE did mention Coveney, once, on December 29th, in a story headlined “Lessons Learned after Dept Gathering during lockdown” on their website.
The minister’s name is mentioned in Paragraph 19.
THEY’RE. LAUGHING. AT. YOU.
Poor Boris. Dragged kicking and screaming and finally having to admit he is an idiot. Poor Charger and his only retort is ‘your lot do the same’.
Dominic sure knows how to stir things. And now he has back up with Allegra. Ho hoooooo.
Hilarious that you keep acting as if we hold our politicians in the same reverence you do Boris.
Totally fitting that chargers role model also happens to be scum.
Fauci’s beat down – The Body Language Cut.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mlczZE3m9sIn/