This morning.

Dublin 2.

Members of the Ukrainian community in Ireland protest at the Headquarters of Google and Facebook (Meta) calling on the tech giants to remove all Russian state-backed accounts. They delivered an open letter urging the leadership and employees to do “all in their power” to delete Kremlin-backed accounts.

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88 thoughts on “Info War

  1. goldenbrown

    AUGHINISH ALUMINA REFINERY, LIMERICK

    owned by Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska

    STILL OPERATING NORMALLY

    write to your local TD and ask for this to be raised in the Dail please

        1. E'Matty

          Why should we seek to target Russian companies when we’re happy to host numerous American and British companies? Did you sleep through the last 20 years, nevermind the past half century? Why is your outrageous so utterly selective?

        2. Kali

          How could I already know that? You simply named a guy with a business in Ireland with a Russian name. Wouldn’t be many that would know him from Adam.

          Keep up with the name calling though, it’s a good look for you

    1. johnny

      “There is currently no implication of any jobs impact, and the tanaiste is keen that the plant continue to operate,” a spokeswoman for Varadkar said.”
      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tanaiste-refinery-to-keep-operating-qbbtfwdg9

      Oleg who is number 4 has some nice dojo’s also owns that plant in Limerick,now Len at 5 oh la la,that some sweet crib collection:)
      https://nypost.com/2022/02/27/heres-where-russian-oligarchs-and-their-families-own-property-in-nyc/

    2. Donald duck

      Then the Russian formula one driver still driving
      What about the Russian owned radios on blue hotel the Morrison hotel and all the Russian money flowing through the Irish financial services centre in Dublin and the money from Russians flowing through Belfast

      Believe me money talks and of course bull sh1t walks

      1. Kali

        Next we could go after the Russian taxi drivers, then the Russian shop workers. Then Beshoff bros, they’re still kind of Russian. Then we can target Russian children as part of our hate fest. Come on guys, we can do this

  2. ANO

    If they can identify such accounts then they should ban or obviously flag all state sponsored ones across their platforms, not just Russian ones.

    THIS POST WAS MADE BY AN IRISH STATE EMPLOYEE

  3. stephen moran

    In Russia, two major independent broadcasters, TV Rain and Echo Moskvy, have been taken off the air and had their websites blocked for spreading what Russia’s prosecutor general described as “deliberately false information,” Hilarious the way the “world beating” poison dwarf Patel took credit for shuttering RT news when in reality it was down to EU’s sanctions given RT uses (used) a French satellite. So much spin so few refugees from the daughter of parents who fled Idi Amin’s purge in Uganda.

    I note the trick for letting the ordinary Russian people know what is going on in Ukraine involves post a (five star review to it doesn’t effect business) in the customer comments sections of a shop / restaurant in a Russian city / town for all to view. Note Trip Advisor have copped this as I noticed when posting a few. You can get a Russian text to post but Bodger’s filter won’t allow you to post here in a foreign lingo (which is understandable given ahem libel history etc)

    Russian text available here – happing posting
    https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1498724486597816327
    Use google maps to find a business to post – the more off the tourist trail / beaten track the better as they are more likely to be out of the loop

    1. f_lawless

      The only bit I could glean from that babble is that you seem to be posting comments on Trip Advisor about the situation in Ukraine and want others to do the same??

      I think you should consider taking a break from the internet. You’ve fried your brain.

      1. goldenbrown

        no it’s a thing f_lawless

        using any and every available socmed feedback channel and trick in the book to inform their general public about what’s happening in their name in Ukraine right now

        because Putin definitely won’t be doing it anytime soon, will he?

        1. SOQ

          Given the amount of fake images and videos flying around the world- I think it is pretty safe to assume that Ukraine and it’s Nazis have plenty of media support- both legacy and social.

          That’s real Nazis btw, not the Canadian sort everyone seems so concerned about.

          1. Duncan Wheeler

            Exactly, let’s just censor everyone we want to demonise every one we believe to be bad. I’ve been listening to interviews with Ukranian’s on RTE where the interviewer asked the question which contains the answers which the interviewee then parrots back at them. That’s called a propaganda technique, true or not, why would they bother doing something so clumsy? Complete distraction, it’s inflation/material shortages/brexit because covid/Ukraine/climate change.

          2. anti bot

            Boger seriously? Did Trump convince you to support Russia and invasion of a free country. Go on tell us about the pizza stuff again, about New York being shut down and oh about covid not being a real thing, except when people died.

          3. scottser

            so what about all these russian nazis? are they not worthy of your ire also?

            Russia
            Atomwaffen Division Russland
            Slavic Union
            Format18
            National Socialist Society
            National Socialist Russian Workers’ Party
            Pamyat Society
            Russian National Unity
            New Russian National Unity
            Russian National Socialist Party

            they got a lot of freakin nazis over there.

          4. Nigel

            Putin’s preferred term is ‘Zionazis’ because the Nazis were really the Jews, you see.

  4. stephen moran

    Sberbank’s (the largest retail bank in Russia) Austrian subsidiary has been placed in insolvency – losing access to the $ funding markets does tend to have that effect on financial institutions – they have other 2 other subs in Europe which can’t be long for this parish. $640 billion in nominal reserves isn’t much use to the Bank of Russia if 1/2 of it is held abroad or in basically useless CNY or Gold. Dominoes and were not talking pizzas.

  5. E'Matty

    Google, META, Twitter etc all US companies and all avid supporters of the US war machine which has destroyed numerous countries and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent men,women and children these past two decades alone. Silence from these virtue signaling fools.

    1. anti bot

      you’re dead right matt. past killings or other people excuse this? Seriously is that your view?

      1. anti bot

        another chicken poo poster. at least have a go at explaining your comment. Bet you can’t. up there with soq

  6. stephen moran

    But we go to zero – whilst Moscow’s MOEX remains closed you can of course in this 24/7 global greed is good world trade certain listed shares of companies in pariah Putin’s petro-dictatorship on other exchanges and having a look at the old scoreboard it’s been a game of catch a falling knife.

    https://twitter.com/adamsamson/status/1499031904204783618
    ……Now Thats What I Call Wealth Destruction – and not a dead cat in sight

    note : no animals were hurt during the making of this posting (bar a Russian bear)

      1. stephen moran

        Your report is dated the 27th Feb ! Like all Soviet era stats- totally out of date and irrelevant – got any Cuban sugar beet production figures from the 1970’s !- Try investing in a BBG terminal. If you snooze you lose and those oligarch boys are losing their shirts

        1. Me so Harney

          That’s not the point dullard..

          Look at the graphs like a good little “financial analyst”..

          lolololololols

          Don’t give up the day job, boxy..

          1. stephen moran

            FYI Russia is quoting spot oil at 30% discount and had 2 failed tenders today – i.e. they can’t sell the stuff even at massive discounts – EU banks exposure is tiny in relative terms – this is no Lehman event for them and the ECB has unlimited firepower unlike the Bank of Russia which is in a box canyon with a CNY and gold which are useless in this situation as they can’t sell the gold no you can’t use CNY for intervention as NO one has a CNY a/c. That is why only 4% of global trade is invoiced in CNY. Bank of Russia have no access to $ swap lines. China is backing away by the day and certainly doesn’t want their own CNY and they are already overweight gold in their reserves. India can’t help as the INR is not a reserve currency for anybody anywhere. As I’ve said before it happens slowly then suddenly when the liquidity dries up. When you have a reserve currency you can print it ‘tl the cows come home (MMT), when you have the ruble you just cause hyper inflation.

          2. Bodger

            stephen, do you not think Putin has factored this all in and expected these moves? That he and China would not have agreed a deal before this got underway. I appreciate your knowledge of Russia extends to the ‘markets’ and careening dashcam footage from Moscow, but they’re not idiots. Home of chess after all.

          3. Me so Harney

            Still not getting it..

            All this has happened repeatedly before, repeatedly, look at the graphs..

            As tensions ease, which they will, all the hype and “projections” will fade into nothing..

            lolololololols

            Don’t give up the day job, boxy..

          4. Nigel

            ‘stephen, do you not think Putin has factored this all in and expected these moves?’

            I expect this analysis to reach the same standard as Trump’s Plan, ie, no matter what happens, it’s playing into his hands. If he actually expected Biden to succesfully unite the west so effectively against him, he might have thought twice about invading. If he knew his invasion force was going to get bogged down the way it has, he might have thought thrice. Or maybe his desire to restore the USSR over-rides all other considerations. If he expected to lose the propaganda war so completely… well, do you really think he expected that?

          5. Bodger

            After warning what I am going to do for the past 15 years, I blindly go in unprepared? You underestimate me, Mr Bond.

          6. Bodger

            ‘If he expected to lose the propaganda war so completely… well, do you really think he expected that?’

            Completely.

          7. SOQ

            None of the pipe lines have been cut off and the SWIFT moratorium does not apply to energy. Prices on the other hand have gone from $30 a barrel to $100 and according to Trump, will reach $150.

            So while the flow may be reduced, the new mark-up is enormous and if anything is an encouragement to keep the military operation going. The consumers on the other hand, are being increasingly squeezed.

          8. Nigel

            ‘After warning what I am going to do for the past 15 years, I blindly go in unprepared?’

            The US prepared for their stupid wars for about five minutes, traveled further, crossed worse terrain, covering vaster distances, and polished everything off in a relative flash, and then it turned out the people in charge WERE stupid. Putin’s invasion isn’t going down as one of the great military feats of our time so far, and he’s supposed to be the smart one? Biden and his pals sinking their teeth into his soft spots with impunity? I dunno, this is a real ‘if Putin’s got another shoe when’s it going to drop?’ territory. He’ll still probably win but he’s got a god-awful grind of an occupation ahead of him all the while sanctioned to the ears.

            The lesson could be, if someone starts a war they might not be as smart as they like to let on because when the hell was the last war that worked out well for anyone who wasn’t a private contracter or looting oil company?

          9. Nigel

            ‘Completely.’

            Ah, so we’re trusting The Putin Plan. He MEANT to lose. He deliberately ceded the battle-ground he is infamous for dominating. Sounds unlikely, but ok.

          10. Bodger

            I think he would have expected the western media to act in the way they have done. Possibly not the Star Wars crash site or Snake Island, but the rest, sure.

          11. Nigel

            Most of the propaganda war is playing out on social media, where he’s getting choked.

          12. stephen moran

            The firs thing is that Putin has overreached himself. His timing is bloody awful from a strategic POV. He should have gone in September. It’s spring now. The medium term forecast is good. Russia cannot survive ’til next winter hemorrhaging $10bn-$15bn + a day on this war. They can’t even organize a supply line at the front lines with fuel or food.
            Canada has already banned Russian oil. Traders aren’t buying Russian oil even at a 30% discount (3 tender auctions failed today) because say if I they buy 1 million barrels today and arrange to take delivery, I have no guarantee that I will find buyers by the time its shipped as there could well be sanctions on everything by then at the pace this is escalating at. They’d be made to risk it – so there is a buyers strike – who is going to finance me if there’s that much risk involved in trading oil. Can you seriously imagine walking into a credit or risk  department at the moment and asking for a line for XYZ in Russia – you’d be laughed at. There is a cliche about the best time to buy being when there’s blood in the streets but that only applies if you can raise the finance.
            A suite of sanctions like these have never been employed against any G20 country – this is not like Iran – it goes way beyond that.
            All the joint ventures are being unwound (Exxon, BP, Shell, ENI, Total) – that’s a huge loss of expertise, tech know-how  and more importantly financing. There is now a ban on oil industry spares / parts / tech being exported / supplied  in line with the Boeing and Airbus ban on servicing / parts – so when things break / need a spare part / service – that can’t happen – that’s going to start kicking in and hurting very soon – badly impacting output 
            With Russia shut out from the only 2 bond settlement systems Euroclear and Clearstream (totally) there are going to be debt defaults on debt soon – it’s inevitable -there will be no way to physically pay coupons or redemptions – this will lead to massive asset seizures – Argentina had a naval cruiser seized in 2014 for example.

            A G20 central bank has NEVER been sanctioned before – they have lost access to about 1/2 their reserves & the rest are useless. They have no $ swap lines – they cannot fund. If they print rubles they will debase the currency further versus  the $ and create hyper inflation. Thats why is far different from previous crisis – its a perfect financial storm – 
            Added to that is that this delusional fantasy of a Vichy regime in Ukraine isn’t going to cut the mustard  – there will be a massive easy to supply insurgency with a significant foreign legion element egged on by western media. Russia do not have deep enough pockets or the stomach for this – in short they have bitten off way more than they can chew – the trouble is there is no off ramp I can see bar Ukraine conceding the whole Donbass and disputed areas + recognizing Crimea as part of Russia and there doesn’t appear to be any appetite for that at the moment

          13. Me so Harney

            Oh dear,

            stepho sounding very desperate now, late last week he was informing us that Russia would be bankrupted come Tuesday..

            Well, guess what…

            He was totally wrong..

            Now he’s playing for time, telling us its gonna happen, even though its not Putin’s first rodeo… smell the diesel stepho, its not going to happen. They survived 2008, and guess what they’ll survive this too.

            If anything, ING bank and a whole load of other EU royal fronts are on the line, they’ll be forced to use the SPFS or abandon the “SaNcTiOnS”

            Poor little boxy

  7. stephen moran

    Looks like an advanced contingent of the Irish ” heavy gang” International Brigade have arrived in the Ukraine – note the insignia – howay the lads – I take it they are not referencing the generous sponsorship received from BS regulars in the video clip ! So I guess you’ll have to file them under NOT virtue signalers then lads.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1499040742634885120

  8. Fearganainm

    Russia’s global defenders include Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.

    That’s all folks.

    1. Cian

      Russia’s global defenders include Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Syria, Broadsheet, Bodger, f_lawless, E’Matty and KCavan.

      That’s all folks.

      fixed that for you

      1. Fearganainm

        SOQ will be disappointed that you ignored all his efforts on behalf of his favourite homophobe.

          1. SOQ

            Both Grindr and Growlr were hopping in the Ottawa area during that protest- rainbow flags waved at Toronto marches too.

            Not the right type of gays so they don’t count is it?

          2. SOQ

            I never said I preferred Putin- but at least the Russians don’t cover bullets in pig fat before shooting Muslims.

        1. SOQ

          At the moment- in Canada- you will regularly be handed a Ukraine flag to wave but if you dare wave a Canadian one, you are regarded as a terrorist, such is the absurdity of it all.

          1. SOQ

            The difference is it was never like that in Canada. But just on that point- it’s likely that tricolour waving SF will be the next government- awful isn’t it?

          2. johnny

            …what was never like that,you’ve never even been to Canada,give it a rest with your nonsense,Vancouver is totally completely different to Toronto,Montreal has a very unique and different culture to say Victoria or Calgary.

            it’s a collection of very diverse provinces not a homogenous little town,you have displayed completee and total ignorance on here regatrding a place you have never even been to,but are now some Irish based armchair ‘expert ‘ on.

      1. stephen moran

        Oracle has announced it is to stop working with Russia. If Microsoft does so as well, it will paralyze the country more effectively than your worst virus – back to the abacus and the stone age

        1. Me so Harney

          You do realise that China already has alternatives to Microsoft and windows..

          Tell me you’re not this dumb..??

        2. Kali

          Oracles big two are Java and DBs, both of which have open source alternatives so theres not a huge loss there and it’s cloud computing division is in decline. MS has windows which makes up a fraction of computing worldwide, everything else is Linux. Not sure what loss you foresee this as.

          Your grasp on computing is actually worse than your grasp on the situation in the Ukraine. I only hope your friends or family never see the snot you do be posting, for your own sake

        1. Me so Harney

          No, I’m suggesting you’re a naive idiot.

          Note in your link abc doesn’t link to the Russian ministry.

          I’m sure you’ll follow up in a day or two with a retraction, right??

          You’ve a way to go there fella..

          lolololololol

  9. Me so Harney

    “Take your pick:..”

    Idiot doubles down on his unverified nonsense..

    Not one of those “links” has anything from the Russian ministry..

    See you in a day or 2 for the retraction

    1. stephen moran

      The things I say actually happen ! No one will be joining that mickey mouse Russian system, no one. From the person who predicted NS2 would be over turned – the company went bust today – re seizures as predicted see below – good night – Make up some more guff and bluff – you really haven’t an iota how the world actually works – I actually feel sympathy for someone so ill informed and naive

      Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov’s 512-foot yacht has been seized by German authorities in the northern city of Hamburg. It was the world’s largest superyacht upon completion in 2018

      Usmanov, a Russian oligarch worth over $20 billion who owns Russia’s largest iron ore company, a telecommunications company and a newspaper in Russia, holds stakes in Airbnb, Spotify, Uber Technologies and was an early investor in Facebook.

      https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1499128423947636739

      1. Me so Harney

        More complete bluster..

        The NS2 is fine stepho..

        And any delays in getting it online will only backfire on the EU companies that provided 50% of the outlay.

        SaNcTiOnS now backfiring..

        Just like your commentary..

        “The things I say actually happen ! ”

        lolololololols

        They do in their swiss..

    2. Fearganainm

      Poor you:

      https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1499062893635067907

      Comrade Harney doomed forever to languish amid the ranks of the chornyi narod.

      Still, look on the bright side. If you were in Russia right now, having posted your denials, you’d be in Siberia. Any of the other prisoners, asking you what you were in for, wondering if you were perhaps an imprisoned intellectual, would recoil in disgust when you told them “I posted that information given out officially by the Russian Defence Ministry to the international press and repeated by them was fake news.” Nobody, but nobody, would want anything to do with someone as stupid as that. i.e. You.

      The only likely revision to those statistics is when they go up.

      1. Me so Harney

        Fair enough.. can’t blame me all the same.. and you have form in the BS department (snake island)

        “The official casualty figures announced by Moscow differ drastically from the claims voiced by Kiev, which said more than 5,800 Russian soldiers had perished since the invasion began.”

        https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1574153/Russia-losses-Ukraine-invasion-plane-destruction-NATO-latest-vn

        https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-02-22/h_fd8d480ab63a0f86618ead3ef90f7775

        “The only likely revision to those statistics is when they go up.”

        What match are you watching cheech..

        6000 down to 498!!

        1. Fearganainm

          I can blame you.

          The truth or otherwise of the Russian claim remains to be established.

          What you did was dismiss as ‘fake news’ the claim issued by the Russian Defence Ministry, cited as the source of the information by all the media outlets carrying the claim.

          That’s not how ‘challenging a claim’ or describing it as ‘fake news’ works. The SOURCE of the claim was always the Russian Defence Ministry, not the media outlets.

          There is also a difference when it comes to revising information if further details come to light. We had an example here earlier this year when a suspect was wrongly identified. Earlier reports were revised or deleted online when new information emerged – it happens.

          You’re just an unthinking chanboy, what would you know?

          1. Me So Harney

            You can do what you like..

            My point still stands..

            None of you’re previous links sourced from the Russian defence ministry, just randos on twitter making claims.

            Will cnn or the express revise their claims for 6000 dead, don’t think so..

            I was perfectly within my rights to ask for a source.. Obviously calling it fake news had to retracted, no problem, and apologies.

            Like your snake Island claims, everything you spout has to be scrutinised. And you can’t question anyone for doing it.

          2. Me So Harney

            Tell us, did you revise your snake Island bs to show the testimonies of the Ukraine soldiers left high and dry by their own government?

            4chan indeed..

          3. Fearganainm

            No, your ‘point’ doesn’t stand. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of media outlets all over the world published articles carrying the claims of the Russian Defence Ministry and citing the Russian Defence Ministry as the source of the claims.

            The Russian Defence Ministry also put out statements carrying the same information.

            The many, many, many media outlets faithfully repeating the statement from the Russian Defence Ministry are not ‘randos on Twitter’. Perhaps your own reliance on real randos on Twitter has confused you.

            A lot of press statements are like that – they merely repeat what a source has told them. Such brief articles are not opinion pieces and nor are they scrutinies of the claims being made.

            Your inability to understand that an article giving a source is not some kind of invention on the part of the media outfit is a part of your problem when it comes to understanding the world.

            The Snake Island story was carried by hundreds of media outlets, citing various Ukraine sources. Russia was slow to refute the claims being made and the story took wing. When news eventually emerged that the Snake Island personnel were in fact prisoners of war the initial reports were clearly seen to be erroneous and revised.

            War, and people being blown apart, mutilated, killed, maimed or permanently disabled, isn’t some kind of game where the scoreline is a cause for celebration. Salivating over who has killed or injured most isn’t a good look. Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine has quickly produced a sickening body count and left thousands of people grieving in Ukraine, Russia and elsewhere along with thousands of people from Ukraine and Russia injured. There really is nothing to gloat about in the casualty lists.

          4. Me So Harney

            Brilliant..

            So with all those media outlets linking to the Russian ministry, you cited the three that didn’t..

            Including a rando from Brazil on twitter..

            Yeah yeah, it woz de Russian mejia dat dun it..

            Yeah, they made you post the entire bs snake Island story and than not revise that the Ukraine government had left them high and dry..

            Digging yourself into quite a hole here..

        2. Fearganainm

          Brazil? Have you gone nuts?

          Wait, don’t answer that.

          I posted two links. The first, which you challenged, was from a French source and carried the words ‘selon Moscou’. Big clue there. The second directly cited the Russian Defence Ministry. You, to use your own term, ‘doubled down’ and dismissed that information too. You then were offered a veritable smörgåsbord of links, scores and scores of them, media sources that all attributed the information contained in their articles to the Russian Defence Ministry. You rejected those, too. Finally, a Russian source, again citing the Russian Defence Ministry, shut you up. By then you were in a hole so deep that there was no getting out of it.

          Face it, you haven’t had a very good info-war and the politburo in Moscow must be furious at your ineptitude. There’ll be no Hero of the Russian Federation Gold Star for you, comrade – your turnip ration is likely to be reduced considerably.

          1. Me So Harney

            abcnews, still no link to Russian ministry, and second link was a search on twitter with the first hit at the time being a Brazilian with 20 odd followers and again no link to source.

            I’m unfortunately correct. Jump up and down all you like.

            Everyone linked to source except you.

  10. Fearganainm

    Poor inorrect, disgraced Comrade Harney.

    You do know how a Twitter search works, don’t you?

    And you do know that media organisations that cite the Russian Defence Ministry as the source of their information don’t link to the Russian Defence Ministry, they simply repeat the information that it has supplied, crediting it as the source of the information?

    Apparently you don’t.

    You branded an official statement from the Russian Defence Ministry as ‘fake news’. Bad, bad Putinbot.

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