Warning: very graphic video.
Last night/this morning:
A Ukrainian official promised an “immediate investigation” on Sunday after graphic videos made the rounds on social media over the weekend, reportedly showing beaten and bloodied captured Russian soldiers being shot in the legs by Ukrainian forces.
The commander in chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, however, accused Russia of “staging videos” showing the “inhumane attitude” of what are purported to be Ukrainian military members toward Russian prisoners of war.
“The government is taking this very seriously, and there will be an immediate investigation,” senior presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said in an interview on Sunday. “We are a European army, and we do not mock our prisoners. If this turns out to be real, this is absolutely unacceptable behavior.”
Meanwhile…
…via Russian State-owned RT:
Russia has launched a probe after graphic video emerged online, purporting to show the torture of prisoners of war at the hands of Ukrainian servicemen.
“The video circulating online shows captured soldiers being shot in the legs without medical assistance,” the country’s Investigative Committee said in a statement on Sunday.
Multiple disturbing clips apparently filmed at the same unknown facility, emerged online over the weekend.
The footage shows multiple people, apparently Russian prisoners of war, lying on the ground. All of the servicemen appear to be heavily beaten and have leg wounds.
Russia investigates alleged footage of Ukrainian troops torturing POWs (RT)
kinell
nothing to see here folks, move along
See the oscars last night? What drama. Great distraction
I seen some of those videos. They show cuffed or tied men getting shot in the legs. The even more serious accusation is that they are then being left to bleed out and die. I would have posted here except the usual cretins would spend the next couple of hours trying to discredit the source.
But sure the lack of prisoner of war standards in a country the president appealed for volunteers to join from all over the world, should be no surprise. Come and get killed being the catch phrase.
Western left wingers deliberately ignoring the barbarity of self confessed Nazis in order to focus on ex communists- that is where we are at- talk about being led up the garden path.
meanwhile:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/27/russian-soldiers-raping-and-sexually-assaulting-women-says-ukraine-mp
can’t you just accept that war debases humanity and stop picking sides? it’s the whole ‘picking sides’ is how it starts.
I think it’s fairly clear that this person enjoys conflict. If you never replied or paid attention then they’d probably just continue their loser life elsewhere.
As for this site… Streicher is smiling
Except Streicher would be on the Ukraine side right now? Minor detail omitted of course.
Absolutely- so what is your views on Yemen then? You are very up to date on what is happening there too I assume.
As for picking sides- just like the corrupt pandemic nonsense- we are being bombarded with one sided propaganda on this issue too. Otherwise, why was RT blocked in Europe?
ICompletely up to date on Yemen, Myanmar, Mali, Sudan, Burkina Faso, Liby, Syria, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Georgia and Belarus. Phew. Did I miss any? Tanzania, CAR, Uranium mines in Niger…. How are those Tuareg doing these days in Algeria? Everyone still hungry in Mozambique.Almost forgot the Ethiopian truce over the weekend. Nice new ICBMs in NKorea.
Why would my opinions on Yemen matter? You should step away from the keyboard and desire for bolscaireacht. It’s not good for you.
Currently very sick with Covid so you can leave your “pandemic nonsense” for somebody more impressionable.
I saw the same propaganda from both sides. RT is accessible with any steady VPN. Unlike this site, I don’t spread videos of propaganda from either side. I saw one yesterday from Mariupol that made my skin crawl.
The Azov battalion is defending that city so expect more carnage. If you wish to find out more its worth getting some Russian friends and a little Ukranian grammar under your belt, if you can seperate from the keyboard.
I’d be more than happy to debate you on any of this rather than have a tit for tat comment slugfest. More civil.
Don’t you think you should have your own site instead of helping broadsheet make money?
i am eternally disgusted at how the saudis act in yemen and i’ve long pointed the hypocrisy of arms dealing countries such as the uk in making money from it.
you though, seem incapable of admitting russian atrocities because it doesn’t fit your narrative so you won’t have to spare a thought for the many hundreds of ukrainian children who will be killed, injured, raped, disappeared and trafficked in the next day or so.
you need to cop the fuk on.
@ Covid19000 that you think Azov Nazis are defending anything other than themselves proves that you are nowhere near as researched as you think they are. They are shooting Ukrainian solders who want to surrender, and using civilians as cover.
Yes we can all use VPN but we are not the average persons because we have keener interest in what is being said- most accept the one side they are spoon fed- which is the very definition of propaganda.
Oh and for the record, this site just about breaks even from what I understand, it certainly does not make any sort of meaningful profit.
@ scottser Ukraine has long been regarded as being one of the most prominent human trafficking countries in Europe, if not the world- long before this kicked off, it is an absolute sewer.
Your double standards and hypocrisy are glaringly obvious.
Even if true, these things do not justify the Russian invasion.
“we can all use VPN but we are not the average persons because we have keener interest in what is being said- most accept the one side they are spoon fed- which is the very definition of propaganda.”
This paragraph is garbage. Who is this “We” you speak of? Unless you’re an elected representative, then I stand corrected. The very definition of propaganda? Hang on a minute. There’s a book for that.
“Oh and for the record, this site just about breaks even from what I understand,”
What record? What DO you understand? I think you should go have a read or something. This paragraph seems to have been started midstroke.
“it certainly does not make any sort of meaningful profit.”
Meaningful profit? What are you on about… Tm what’s meaningful profit exactly?
Debate me. I dare you.
Ukraine is nowhere near the top of the list of countries where trafficking is rife. But you know what single factor leads to a higher incidence of trafficking?
yep, war.
which russia started.
https://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/Executive_summary_english.pdf
https://humantraffickingsearch.org/top-countries-modern-day-slavery/
soq?
fos more like.
“Currently very sick with Covid”
“Debate me. I dare you”
Ye can’t be that sick if yer looking to go debating online all day…
‘ this site just about breaks even from what I understand ‘
Nonsense.
Word has it Nick Kelly buys organic milk.
Organic !
I heard he just bought the cow
that may well be more to do with his udder fixation.
We all live here & have witnessed the irrational, warmongering attitude of our corporate & state-run media, we get to witness it’s effects on the impressionable, with further examples being presented here again, today.
It’s ironic to read people who’ve been entirely hoodwinked by this media & who therefore have no idea how this conflict started, beyond the inane “Putin is a madman”, comic-book drivel, imply that anyone disagreeing with them is some sort of Russian sympathiser. Any objective viewing of the history of this makes it quite obvious that the USA & it’s lapdog, NATO, in using Ukraine to “unbalance Russia”, to quote the Americans, so it could concentrate on “containing China” have miscalculated badly & created this, unnecessary war.
The manner in which those who consume the MSM like it’s still the 80’s blithely ignore the 8 wars & various coups that the US has instigated since the Cold War ended & try to portray Russia as if it’s a mirror-image of the US, is transparent nonsense. Russia has not travelled half-way across the world to butcher over a million people, while bombing countries into dust & blood, they’re involved in a war to deal with an existential threat “on their own porch”, to quote them.
The sooner this is over, the better, Russia used Kinzhal missiles recently, making it clear that it has non-nuclear, non-chemical, non-biological weapons that can destroy Europe, weapons that, once launched, cannot be stopped by any means & it is hoped that the idiots who rule Europe, unelected, from Brussels, will grow up & pay attention.
If NATO send in troops, Russia will not hesitate to use modern hyperbaric weapons to wipe them out, instantly, unlike the kid gloves they are using on the Ukrainians. Then, we might end up paying the price for the US’s constant aggression & violence towards other nations. The Americans now need to wake up to the fact that there is, indeed, a New World Order, just not one they’d planned.
Even when this is over, the USA will remain the main danger to world peace, as it has been for the 30 year period of unipolar, liberal hegemony, now at an end.
Again that’s a lot of ranting and raving about everyone except the guy who started the war and is making the threats.
scottser, you’re accusing Russia of crimes you assert it WILL commit, yet you probably think you are observing this from a neutral position.
You’re not, so it’s pretty pointless & frankly silly to throw around accusations of bias.
I put more facts in that one post than you will use all day, Nigel, you prefer argument to debate. The idea that this war started with the invasion of Ukraine is just silly but your use of “brave” to describe the Ukrainians just shows you’ve absorbed all your facile opinions from the hysterical MSM & have no facts or argument to back them up, just empty rhetorical bluster.
You literally haven’t a clue how or even when this war started, what geopolitical realities were involved, most of all, what this disastrous mistake by NATO is going to cost a now isolated West.
The world has turned her back on us & your inability to even consider the possibility that we, The West, could possibly be in the wrong is a perfect illustration why, since it’s an attitude you absorbed from our politicians & media, both of whom you slavishly, uncritically support.
The World is right to turn their back on us, we deserve the fate that awaits us, if people like you, arrogant in their ignorance & delusion, dripping with contempt for the rest of humanity, are what we’re about.
People with the same attitude as you ordered the snipers into the square in 2014, from that point on, this was all inevitable.
Yes, Kim, if you unironically consume the mainstream media, your opinion is worthless drivel.
Your opinion is worthless drivel.
We you could hardly be expected to recognise a fact when you see one.
The Nigel account uses fallacies K Cavan, usually the strawman one.
It is easier to critique a distortion of what someone has said that rather than actual thing, and is also why an individual sentence or part of is used, rather than addressing the whole point made.
It’s a well known comms technique.
‘The Nigel account uses fallacies K Cavan, usually the strawman one.’
This comment is biting its own tail.
By quoting The Guardian, quoting a Ukrainian MP, scottser, you’re making your own side quite obvious. I also saw several of these videos, in some, blindfolded Russian soldiers were made to kneel in front of trenches, while being beaten & the Ukrainians doing this were not regular army but Azov & other Nazi irregulars, who get paid by the Ukrainians but do not take their orders from Ukrainian Army command.
Mariupol is now being mopped up, the Azovs & fellow-Nazis are all going to die or be captured, over the next day or two. Hopefully, by the end of April this will be all over & despite the attempts of the fanatic neo-cons in The White House & the incompetence of the American leadership, WW3 will have been avoided.
Hopefully, the idea of a Polish “peace-keeping” force being sent into Western Ukraine will be dismissed, if they go in, they will be immediately destroyed by the Russians & we could all be in trouble, even though an attack on one NATO member’s armed forces is not, by any means, grounds for further action by NATO, as seems to be many people’s assumption.
‘ despite the attempts of the fanatic neo-cons’
I think you mean despite the brave Ukrainian defenders and the shambolic Russian military.
Funny how much hate you direct at everyone exept the guy doing the nuclear sabre-rattling to cover his invasion of a neighbouring state.
HEY EVERYONE GATHER ROUND! THE MISUNDERSTOOD GENIUS THAT IS K.CAVAN IS EXERCISING HIS PROFOUND WISDOM ON GEOPOLITICAL MATTERS!
Lets break down his utter drivel paragraph by paragraph, starting with his previous one that opens with, “We all live here & have witnessed….”
HIs first paragraph, he seeks to undermine your opinion by ridiculing in a generalised fashion, anyone who reads MSM, as if it negates any view the reader might have, and somehow raises the perception of intellect of the Cavan lad.
His second paragraph double downs on insulting the reader by implying he is the victim if you disagree with him, even though he hasn’t said anything of merit yet, other than insulting his audience.
Maybe he changes in paragraph 3? Nope, still insulting the reader while making a nonsense unsupported claim about Russia, implying innocence. Quite the doozy.
He almost pulls a fast one in paragraph 4 by saying “The sooner this is over, the better”, before waving his willy tattooed in Russian flag colours and giving us a verbal demo of Russian war hardware which leads in to “USA bad” drivel, because if he could, he would blame US foreign policy on the waiting times in Dublin airport at the weekend.
Jumping to his next comment, he moves back to his cliched tactics by ridiculing Scottser, because he shared a Guardian article, clearly something that would be laughed at by Cavan and his mate down the boozer.
He then goes in to making broad statements, all unsupported (not even a crackpot link to some horsecrap conspiracy theory site) before once again, blaming the Americans for the behaviour of the Russians. (Yeah but Chris Rock said mean things first!)
He finally goes in to dumb obvious land by the end, citing what has ironically been covered by MSM all around the world. Even the Guardian.
It’s the Dunning-Kruger Effect in full flow here on a daily basis.
Even if they turn out to be authentic war crimes, they still do not retroactively justify the invasion.
Where did SOQ say that it does?
SOQ tries to justify Russia’s invasion more-or-less every day.
No I bloody do not- I merely try to bring some balance.
That you cannot decipher between propaganda and facts is really not my problem.
You do. You deny there us a war, you deny Covid, you deny people are dying. All you do is deny and conflate. You and Cavan are a busted flush. Get a life. at least some commentators on here know there are taking the piss
no, no you don’t ‘try to bring balance’. you said:
“But sure the lack of prisoner of war standards in a country the president appealed for volunteers to join from all over the world, should be no surprise. Come and get killed being the catch phrase.”
you said this either deliberately ignoring or wilfully ignorant of the fact that putin has chechen, syrian and belarussian troops fighting his war. where is the accountability for russian pow standards? those troops are effectively mercenaries and can act with impunity without any consequence for russia.
‘Where did SOQ say that it does?’
Denazification is supposedly one of the justifications for this war. SOQ repeatedly posts links and comments that support the denazification propaganda. True or false, this is being used to justify the invasion, and SOQ claims this is ‘balance.’
I don’t think he’s saying that it does Nigel.
Just that the situation is complicated and not black and white.
“this is being used to justify the invasion”
I haven’t really been following it much (here or offline) – is the media using this as justification for the invasion?
‘the situation is complicated and not black and white.’
Hardly a great insight, and not something to be backed up by treating Russian propaganda credulously.
‘is the media using’
Putn is, and his supporters/apologists.
“Hardly a great insight”
Not saying it is, just that SOQ isn’t saying that they “justify the invasion”
He say himself above that he sees himself as bringing balance. (Rightly or wrongly)
“and his supporters/apologists.”
Where are they in the media though – are they in Russia? I haven’t seen any Russian media. Is there not some sort of a blackout here on Russians stuff?
Is there media in the West supporting the Russian invasion?
He is, in fact, rather transparently justifying the invasion. His claims of bringing balance are laughable.
There are other commenters right here on Broadsheet trying to justfy the invasion. Follow their links if you want to see what media they’re using.
“Follow their links if you want to see what media they’re using.”
So… I’m gonna take that as a no to my media in the west supporting the invasion then.
This from Nigel who thinks that Russia are fascists?
‘So… I’m gonna take that as a no to my media in the west supporting the invasion then.’
Are you painfully reaching for a point or what?
‘This from Nigel who thinks that Russia are fascists?’
SOQ thinks there’s something wrong with describing Russia as a fascist state with a fascist leader.
“Are you painfully reaching for a point or what?”
I’ve made my point above. That SOQ isn’t calling for the Russians to invade Ukraine.
He’s only stating that it’s a complicated issue and that I would guess that NONE of us here have any real clue about the complexities and intricacies of the Russian / Ukrainian people or history.
‘That SOQ isn’t calling for the Russians to invade Ukraine.’
Be weird if he was since it already happened about a month ago. He’s JUSTIFYING the invasion.
‘He’s only stating that it’s a complicated issue’
There are a lot of complications, but some things are realtively simple and straightforward – Russia are the agressors, the invasion cannot be justified, parroting Russian propaganda is not balance.
They’ve been at war since 2014.
8 years, 1 month, 1 week and 1 day apparently
Never heard anyone mention it here before a month of so ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
Now you’re all bloody experts…
Speaking of which Micko- here is an interesting explanation of the rise of oligarchs in both Ukraine and Russia- they appear to have way more in common than separates them.
https://www.tiktok.com/@cossack23/video/7079867678445522181
But no you must conform, never challenge the narrative or your motives will be questioned, even when there is tortured dead women with swastikas painted on their bodies.
Where have all the free thinking left wing rebels gone eh?
‘They’ve been at war since 2014.’
Yes, they have. Ukraine has been beset by Russia’s attacks and interference for at least that long.
You’re really struggling to stake out even the most facile middle ground on ths one.
‘But no you must conform,’
Doesn’t justify the invasion. Give me a single valid reason why it does and I’ll praise your brave non-conformity. Otherwise you’re a lazy credulous contrarian.
“Speaking of which Micko”
Ah to be honest SOQ, I don’t really care about it.
No more then I care about people I don’t know in Yemen getting bombed back to the Stone Age or people I don’t know dying of Covid.
I only care about the people I know and love.
…like Abu Ghraib?
Nigel, if you seriously believe that the USA did not provide justification for this invasion, you simply don’t have any real idea how it happened.
Here’s the short lesson. The US Secretary of State, the German Chancellor & Foreign Minister, in return for the Soviets allowing the reunification of Germany, promised no NATO expansion eastwards. NATO then expanded into Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania & Bulgaria.
Then they armed & trained Ukrainian troops & held joint exercises with them, right up to the Russian borders, acting as if they were a de facto member of NATO. Most of the NATO-trained troops, went directly from their NATO training camp to the Donbas & commenced shelling ethnic Russian civilians, as they’ve been doing since this war started in 2014, killing anything between 14,000 & 25,000 of them.
Then Russia invaded.
If you can point out any factual errors in this summation, be my guest, your opinions & blather are irrelevant, only the facts matter.
It’s almost entirely factually erroneous.
There was no agreement. None.
Ukraine’s allies provided support for the Ukrainian military to fight aaginst the conflict within Ukraine created and funded by its enemy, Russia? How provocative.
Po-war apologist.
You really are a spoofer, Nigel. You say my statement is erroneous, your counter-argument being that there was no agreement, I mentioned no agreement.
Your post is a tacit admission that my facts were correct, while you’re outing yourself as a contemptible, dishonest spoofer, operating on this forum in bad faith.
Get lost, you disgusting low-life.
“The US Secretary of State, the German Chancellor & Foreign Minister, in return for the Soviets allowing the reunification of Germany, promised no NATO expansion eastwards”
This is simply not true.
see https://theconversation.com/ukraine-the-history-behind-russias-claim-that-nato-promised-not-to-expand-to-the-east-177085
If you believe otherwise you need to provide evidence that a promise was made.
Well, Cian, it just so happens that James A. Baker, GW Bush, Hans-Dietrich Gensher, Helmut Kohl, Robert Gates, Francois Mitterand, Margaret Thatcher, Douglas Hurd, John Major & Manfred Woerner all gave assurances to the Russians & after 30 years, those documents have been declassified & are available online.
The former, Mr Baker, US Secretary Of State, used the phrase ”not one inch Eastwards” to describe NATO’s intentions, when talking to Gorbachev, on 9/2/90. He then used the exact same phrase 3 times in a conversation with Shevardnadze, a heavily redacted transcript of which I’ve read.
If you don’t know who any of those people are, Google them, then go & find the documents yourself, I’m not doing your research for you, you pathetic, ignorant spoofer.
Well done BS. Show un invalidated videos to support the invaders. When are you going to show Biden is senile and there is no climate change videos? when will you show mass burials of the non virus deads in the US. Sorry, I forgot, you have lots of nordie supporters on here to support your utter poo
This site shows invalidated videos to attract their target market. Why don’t you ask them to show you the analytics of their site and their income? Tidy profits all round.
“Invalidated videos”, what are you like? Who officially validates videos in your world & what colour is the sky there?
That’s really, really funny…..but weird.
“Invalidated videos” well I never, where did they get you from? Will you just go back there, please.
“Invalidated” eh?
I can even use fake words and you get annoyed about that too. How curious.
Where did they get me from? You must be like your friends. Magic pluralisers, Wes theys and thems all over the establishment.
The sky is cyan and the drinks are gratis
Lots of nordie supporters???
Aunty Bot, you’re engaged in hysterical Strawman arguments, you’re making a fool of yourself.
Go on the nodies. Supporting the killing of civilians for no reason and then spout poo online. Did you go to certain college in the USA promoted by a disgraced former president. I doubt you when to any college
”I doubt you when to any college” says Aunty Bot.
Well, that really is like being savaged by a dead sheep.
Looks like you never when to school (sic).
The reality of war
Brutal and god help you when you fall into enemy hands
One can say it’s exactly the same when Ukrainian soldiers are captured
Mind you I could say when mercenaries are caught either side their fate is worse
There are no rules in war and these videos our illustrious leaders do not like us to see as they uses insults at the enemy side and pour more and more fuel on the situation including calling for regime change in Russia and a world war as an agenda for world peace
Let’s not March our people to wars but our political elite
How very even-handed of you. But Russia started this war.
Russia were provoked.Stop ignoring that.You sound silly at this stage.
‘aw, poor wussia was pwovoked.’
yeah, nigel is the one sounding silly..
Does Azov Nazis slaughtering Russian speakers in the east for eight years not qualify as provocation?
Bio Labs with contents so dangerous the US administration are afraid they’ll fall into Russian hands maybe? Let’s be honest- they weren’t researching a cure for world hunger or cancer is that is the case.
And yet, nobody seems to know why Zelenskyy and his handlers will not commit to a Ukraine which is independent from the two blocks.
soq, are you paid by Trump and the Russians. You have to be. Note that you never answer any questions
Does Putin funding and arming and sending mercinaries in to create the conflicts in the so-called breakaway reasons not strike you as smoeone inventing a provocation for himself?
Why would the the US want the biolabs they funded to fall into Russian hands?
‘nobody seems to know why Zelenskyy’
Well it can hardly be that he’s justifiably terrified of Russian aggression, can it?
‘handlers’
Ding! Russian pro-invasion propaganda alert!
”We perform the tasks set by The West, because we are the only ones ready to do them, because we have fun, we have fun killing and we have fun fighting. That’s the reason for the new alliance, Turkey, Poland, Britain & Ukraine. We are a huge, powerful state & if we come to power it will be both a joy & a problem for the whole world”: Yevhen Karas of C-14, one of the neo-Nazi groups, who along with Azov, Right Sector, Svoboda, White Hammer, Aydar, & Dnepr Battalions, Kyiv-2 & the Azov’s political wing, The National Corps, were trained by NATO operatives from US, UK & Canada in the ”Peacekeeping Centre” where volunteers were recently killed by a Russian missile attack.
They were trained there, armed by the US & transported to the Donbas to shell civilians & attack the civilian militias trying to defend them.
The Aydar & Dnepr Battalions & Kyiv-2 comprise 38 battalions, numbering 13,500 nazis, under the control of Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi, rather than Zelensky’s junta & financed & supported by Victoria Nuland (of f*ck the EU fame) and Geoffrey Pyatt, US Ambassador to Ukraine, who between them, decided who was to be part of Zelensky’s junta. That government includes members of the Neo-Nazi groups in a dozen important posts, including Minister for Defence. Fighting alongside the Ukrainian Nazis are Wotanjugend, a group of Russian Nazis, expelled from Russia by Putin.
Biden, McCain & Kerry visited the protests that lead to the second coup & have either been photographed or appeared on stage with the leaders of the Nazis, all with Obama’s blessing, the US President having never forgiven Putin for snatching Sevastopol from under his nose.
To claim, as Nigel does, that ”Russia started this war” is utter nonsense & simply displays his complete ignorance of a situation he blithely comments on, as if he actually has the tiniest clue what he’s talking about. He clearly believes his ignorance is as good as others’ knowledge, the indication of an arrogant system pig who’s comments display his conformist authoritarianism, sitting proudly atop his empty, echoing head-space.
He blithely comments on K Cavan because that is what he is paid to do- so you are wasting your time.
My question is- by whom?
There’s more of those personal smears you hate so much. Anyway, nobody is paid enough to read Cavan’s verbal diarrhea.
”Russia were provoked” is about as legitimate as ”she was wearing a short skirt your honour”.
Fact is the Ukrainian army suddenly restarting the shelling of the breakaway areas of Ukraine knowing that Putin was conducting military exercises on the border
Instead of trying to resolve the situation by politics
I call that insanity
The result is what we see today
Only a madman would do what zelensky did
He just found not resist using all those new weapons that were sent by the USA on his own people that were opposed to his government
It’s not even remotely like that, Broadbag but it does resemble a plea of self-defence, since NATO trained & armed every single Nazi who began slaughtering civilians in the Donbas in 2014.
I don’t know what they were wearing at the time but your analogy is just ignorant crap.
…Nigel keeps saying the same thing over and over…his beloved Democrats are the good guys…incapable of doing anything that is not for the greater good…infallible really…
The thing I keep saying over and over is that Russia is the belligerent and the warmonger here. Everything else is stuff you add on because your brain can’t make sense of it.
…perhaps we both wear blinkers Nigel…for me, NATO is the military wing of the CIA…their aggressive expansionism is an existential treat to Russia and their regime change ambition in Russia was obvious long before sleepy Joe said it…sadly, the Ukrainians are the ones to suffer…
No it isn’t. Whatever NATO’s failings, it’s pretty clear Russia’s neighbours need a strong military alliance backing them if they’re to remain safe from Russia or at best they’ll end up like Belarus or Chechnya. That’s hardly ‘aggressive’ expansion. Putin might hate it, but that’s because it checks his ambitions.
Ukrainians are suffering because Putin invaded…. to change the regime.
what the eff does decorates have to do with invading and killing people. Please explain. You posted online. You must have a rational explain for such a statement.
…looks like we agree Nigel…Russia are checking US/NATO ambition…their objectives have not changed – the denazifaction and demilitarising Ukraine..they have surrounded the nazi Azov Brigade and their intelligence led missiles will demilitarize…
Russia is checking Ukrainian ambitions of being an independant state. Bringing the old soviet republics back into the fold.
Nigel is a man who is with the programme may it be the US or the EU
True
Same mindless peasant mentality
‘Russia were provoked’
No. Russia wasn’t provoked.
“Ukrainians are suffering because Putin invaded…. to change the regime”.
Trying to keep up here, but is that the regime the US-backed coup led by the neo-Nazi Right Sector militia who stormed the Ukrainian parliament and forced the elected President Yanukovich and members of his party to flee for their lives, and installed Mr. Zelensky & Co. – that regime?
Can’t have been just the US or the far right or the new government wouldn’t have lasted this long or needed a massive military invasion to dislodge. In fact, one would have thought the invasion would have triggered another popular revolt against the existing regime if it was such an illegitimate puppet. Instead the populace rallied to fight the invading Russians. I think overstating the involvment of the US and the far right in the popular revolt might be Russian propaganda.
Zelenskys shelling of the dombass area after Putin recognised both of those breakaway areas was provoking
What else could a dictator do when his ego is offended
Hence the invasion
I am not saying it’s right or it’s wrong but zelensky walked himself into it
But the real victims here are the Ukrainian people
Nigel, get off that swing & get out of that playground.
Go back to your violent pornographic Trudeau fantasies.
Not fantasies, Nigel, reality. Trudeau’s a cuck, as well as a Fascist scumbucket.
The Minsk agreement or protocol or what ever you want to call it was a peaceful agreement to stop the slaughter in the Dombass area and it was walked all over by the Kiev government
Fact Is zelensky and his cronies are responsible for this war but now we see just the victims of this totally avoidable invasion of Ukraine
So who is responsible for a fire
The person who lit the match or the person who added the wood and poured the gasoline and fanned the flames
To bring your people to where the Ukrainians are is unforgivable
Now it would be a totally different subject if there was no civil war in the dombass area for 8 years and Putin just invaded
Dinkum, the person who lit the match was Barrack Obama. He’s to blame for all of it. He was a bloodthirsty international terrorist who used drones to attack civilians attending weddings, funerals & social gatherings in countries the US had not declared war on, a crime under the Geneva Convention & he’s still in charge, telling poor old Joe Biden what to do, even if the old duffer can barely manage to carry out the simplest instructions.
As Obama said ”never underestimate Joe’s ability to f*ck everything up”.
An understandable reaction when someone has bombed the crap out of your house and killed your family.
People get shot in the legs all the time in Belfast and no-one on BS gives a stuff.
Dry your eyes mates.
War is brutal.
Speaking of which, ‘A Mother Brings Her Son To Be Shot’ is a great doc on this subject, chilling stuff from start to finish.
Well now, Ten Pole, you’re upset that BS doesn’t carry enough coverage of people getting shot in the legs in Belfast, are you?
That’s interesting, thanks for sharing.
Him and the Ukrainian rape fantasy guy Vlad are kindred spirits
Odysee, RT and the Washington Examiner?
The Onion and the Beano next please.
Bruce Y Lee even. Daisy’s go-to source of information.
Ha hawwwwwww
Back to obsessing over Brucie. Oh dear. https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/12/30/new-years-eves-papers-2/#comment-2382821
You fell for that one hook line and sinker alright. Your original link https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/07/01/one-they-made-earlier/#comment-2326972 – six months earlier.
Gway you clown. Bruce Y Lee. ROFL!
Dolly has information? When did that happen?
While you were hiding from the vaccine in your incel basement.
@Micko Running out of breath, thanks for the get well soon ya sociopath. I was sicker the last 3 days but thankfully I’m over the worst. Chest pains are unreal. How are you keeping?
Don’t mind asking for a debate as I don’t think it would take too long.
Maybe you should have got the vaccine..?
@micko Excuse me? What has my vaccination status got to do with you?
Absolutely nothing…
Now, if I can just scan your Covid vaccination pass there. Thanks
@micko nobody scans any passes anymore señor sociopathetic.
You may as well know that all you need to do is register your antigen test and prove it to your workplace.
All vaccination information is strictly confidential, however, it may be requested if you are claiming an adverse reaction to a vaccine for sick benefit.
Still couldn’t wish me all the best though…
Not a kind word in your trough to swill in my direction?
Do look after yourself.
Ah will ye get over yourself.
It’s not the plague.
Besides, you’re not too fond of the aul kind words yourself now are you now?
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2022/03/22/they-cant-let-it-lie/#comment-2410584
Ahem… I quote
“I can honestly say I continue to gain warmth from the knowledge of how little a life you must lead, faceless, ignorant and muddled.
Pathetic”
So kind, sooo caring..
are all your other avatars sick too ? ;)
No, they’re not sick. The other avatars are well acupunctured. They’re all tauruses and years of the monkey too.
lol I’m not the acupuncture lady from the TV or a fan of astrology, I’m also about as spiritual as a kick up the hoop
Apologies for that. Honest mistake. Not spiritual either. I despise those who claim to “balance things” when they’re just perpetrating their own bolscaireacht.
You have to hand it to the Ukrainians, their propaganda machine is incredible. The Russian one is only working in Russia, but sure we’ve seen that here in Ireland. I usually think of them as rival media bubbles.
Russia banned DW before RT was “blocked”. It’s a bit of a shame because its difficult to analyse their articles now.
It’s not like we need Gareth Jones anymore to go see the Famine.
Yes just the ‘bolscaireacht’ for masks, lockdowns, vaccine efficacy and vaccine injuries. Now proven lies at every single point along that two year time line.
But now we are supposed to believe that everything we are being told about Ukraine is the truth? No it is not, it is not even close- if anything we are being lied to on an even grander scale
All with the same old lazy accusations and smears and labels- AGAIN !
‘Now proven lies ‘
Not proven lies.
‘But now we are supposed to believe that everything we are being told about Ukraine is the truth?’
Certainly not what we’re being told by Russian sources.
Just this one, then.
that video needs subtitles
If you can take one thing away from the list of comments above…nobody really knows what’s going on. I think the only thing you can say with certainty is that the politicians involved in this mess failed abysmally to avert a dangerous situation, and have taken us ever closer to WW3
“nobody really knows what’s going on”
Yup yupppidy yup yup. ;-)
100% agree.
There was never any thought given to the Minsk agreements by Europe.
Before 2014 Germany was hoping to expand into Russia, creating thousands of jobs and closely bind the two economies together. Given their shared history it was such a shame that sanctions prevented it.
The USA wants Europeans to be at odds with Russia so as to continue justification for their troops in Europe. Hard to imagine a world in which CIS and the EU work peacefully together now. Maybe there’ll be a ceasefire in the summer. Fingers crossed.
Covid, Germany & Russia were about to instigate Nordstream 2, a pipeline that had been designed by both countries to circumvent Ukraine, judged by both to be too corrupt & unstable. However, if the pipeline didn’t go through Ukraine, how was the US supposed to get their piece of the action? The Americans drove the wedge they wanted, between Germany & Russia & the former will now have to buy gas from the US, which will cost up to 20 times more than the Russian supplies. Germany has, by allowing this to happen, destroyed it’s own economy but as Germany is the country that the US most fears on the entire planet, that’s ok by them. The Yanks have exactly what the wanted from this & they don’t give a damn how many Ukrainians or Russians die in the process.
Some people clearly know more than others, though, Gavin. You are spot-on about our idiot political leaders walking us into this, they need removal, though Nigel will be along shortly to say it’s all Putin’s fault for being a madman, the only explanation he can comprehend.
Can I just say shooting anyone who is not a threat is wrong?
If this is true then the perpetrators need to be prosecuted as severely as possible. Not sure why anyone would take a differing view to this?
…it’s ok when the good guys kill innocent people…they even have a euphemism for it – collateral damage…
And you think Putin’s a good guy, so it’s okay when Putin kills innocent peple?
It’s not but thanks for playing.
Like the smell of your own farts, Ian, the criminal activity of Our Guys is not so bad, at least to the likes of Nigel.
Not you, though?
Surprised & I don’t mean that as an insult.
@Micko Did you search through my comment history to prove I’m as unkind as you?
I love your line of thinking. I planted that comment a while ago to see if you would take the bait. Lovely.
Are you the same person as that @SOQ?
What’s the echo chamber like in the morning?
When I had the coof I was left with terrible back pains and took paracetamol every 10 hours for days on end, one day, I switched to 2 aspirins and the pains never came back… Now, not sure if that was just a coincidence or if it was the change in molecules but it was great to finally get rid of the pain…thought I’d be on drugs for the rest of my life. Be careful of Ibuprofen and good luck, we are not ourselves when in pain!
Thanks for that.
I felt relatively OK when it was just a cough and runny nose. I run a lot so I don’t experience wheezing or out of breathness unless I’m trying a 100m dash. Even then it’s not that bad.
Now, well, it’s become difficult to talk and fatigue is setting in. I’m wondering what the first run will be like… Will I have those chest pains again?
I’ve been taking aspirin but I haven’t needed it for a bit. I really tried to go back to “normal” but it’s clear that it’s impossible to strategize as many people have become too cynical to listen to a rational argument.
” I planted that comment a while ago to see if you would take the bait. Lovely.”
Sure you did. Sure you did.
Also, great how I’ve been downgraded to just “unkind” from being a “sociopath” a few comments back.
That de-escalated quickly… in the face of your own dodgy ness.
“Are you the same person as that @SOQ?”
Yes, yes we are – we are also a paranoid schizophrenic.
But at least we have ourselves for company eh?
Of course I plant comments. It’s fairly straightforward. You replied with it didn’t you? Don’t you think that with some smidgen of intelligence and a gullible bit of tin foil that it would be easy enough?
It didn’t “de escalate”. You’re a sociopath, well, unless I’m your friend or family. If I’m from Yemen or something you’re not bothered about… Whoops might be quoting you there… Ah sure there’s no point in falling out right? I like unkind because it reinforces the strategic vacancy of the sociopath.
I love you dearly.
“Of course I plant comments.”
Why?
____________
Also, you’re not bothered about Yemen either.
Everyone only gives two fupps about Ukraine or Covid coz it might impact us personally.
Same as Covid – no one cared when it was just in Asia, same as all the others before it.
And yeah, if that makes me a sociopath…. well at least I’m honest one.
I can live with that…
You don’t answer me, but hey, I won’t play that game.
I plant comments to make sure that you read what I said and stay focused.
I cared about Yemen, I cared about Covid when it was in China too. Don’t be too cynical or assume you kniw what people did or didn’t care about.
You can live with anything because you’re sociopathic. That’s my point. Maybe you’ll get a jolt when you need a stranger to care someday.
I still love you dearly.
“I cared about Yemen, I cared about Covid when it was in China too.”
Sure you did
Do you also feed the pigeons, and sometimes feed the sparrows too?
Must give you an enormous sense of wellbeing
He’s right you know Micko. Of all the people on here you and you alone frankly make my skin crawl. The thing is I doubt you’re as bad a guy in real life. But in here you just can’t seem to resist the temptation to parade around in your virtual y fronts sneering at everyone and occasionally letting too much visibility in the front ball pocket
Oh “in real life” I’m much much worse Mr Mad.
Remember that ONE time on here that I let rip and hurt your feelings.
Heh. Good times. ;p
Plus, I’m more of a boxers then briefs guy…
Micko is a rare voice of sanity and commonsense on here.
Apart from myself of course.
Sound as a pound is our Micko. I rarely disagree with him and when I do it’s done politely and without rancour.
Only one username too.
Because he’s not an imbecile.
That’s alright Micko, sartorial elegance is likely not your stock-in-trade. I can’t say you’ve ever hurt my feelings at any stage Micko.
Rather it’s death by a thousand cuts with you, as most of our interactions make me feel like a little rodent just crawled up my rectum and proceeded to breathe their last, the poor little things.
Whereas your new friend Charger Santorum’s effervescent aroma is more usually reminiscent of a rim job aftermath following such rectum rodents’ expirations.
“ the poor little things.”
Jesus man. How many of those things have you got up there?
Go easy… you’ve only one rectum.
Rectum? They nearly bleeding killed him! ;p
As for Terry, at least he’s entertaining and in fairness holds a mirror up to the “aren’t we a great bunch of lads” BS that we Irish tell ourselves.
That’s why he pees off so many here.
I can respect that.
No again
Micko, Charlie Santorum doesn’t pee anyone off.
Most people have figured him out for the slumlord, basement dwelling, bottom-feeding crushing bore that he is. Most people except you for example – who seems to think it’s hilarious that this character refers to a multiple serial rapist and pederast as a “cad” etc. Take a long hard look at yourself please Micko. You have a young lad and a wife and one day they might have to read some of the embarrassing rubbish you post here. Try to retain a smidgeon of self-respect please.
Who can forget the thousands of medical workers who gave their lives in China. January 2020 was a dark month indeed. It’s important to keep a journal BTW, keeps you centred when the pesky news cycle starts whirring again.
As for Yemen, I mean it’s been impossible to get anybody to care. The poorest country in Arabia invaded by the richest.
I do feed the birds. We often chat about you.
As for my sense of wellbeing, well, as you are an honest sociopath then it will be difficult to explain as empathy probably seems like a foreign language.
Don’t give up. You’re not fully brainwashed yet. Both of you.
“Who can forget the thousands of medical workers who gave their lives in China.”
Thousands you say – when was that now?
“I do feed the birds. We often chat about you.”
Do you chat about 90’s chart topping Britpop artists with them? I’m gonna say, definitely maybe…?
“Thousands you say – when was that now?”
You don’t remember because you didnt/don’t give a shit.
January – March 2020.
15,000 were mobilised from all provinces. I believe I mispoke when I said thousands died, although I wouldn’t put too much faith in CCP stats.
They bought us time but if we cmhad cared more then we would have locked down in February or late January. Ah well.
I’m sorry if I don’t understand this Britpop. What is it?
“ I mispoke when I said thousands died”
Eh? Misspoke? 23 healthcare workers died by April 2020.
Big difference.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2005696
Genuine mistake or misinformation…?
Genuine mistake.
It was grim though. More could have died without the lockdown. Shanghai is going into one now… I’d say there will be rumblings soon of trade disruptions.
I’d say the shanghaiese are going insane.
Mariupol is done, put a flag on it, best news i heard in a week.
I would not expect to see prisoners shot in the legs though…..
I would expect to see a bit more cross dressing, Zalensky style as Azov try to escape justice on a bus pretending to be a women.
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ektakto-marioupoli-telos-sta-cheria-roson-o-dioikitis-tou-tagmatos-azof-epicheirei-na-ton-lintsarei-to-plithos/?_x_tr_sl=el&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
I hate to break this to you but in June 1922, Tom Barry was arrested on the streets of Dublin while dressed as a woman.
A nurse, actually.
With ISIS the – CIA/MOSSAD were able to supply state of the art filming equipment (high frame rate/slow mo) etc. Are they going for a more ‘run and gun’ feel for this episode? To think, ‘snuff’ films were an urban legend when I was a child. Now they’re filming them at 120 frames a second with decent lighting.