sounds dodgy .. who deals with all the landlord duties so? like dealing with the tenants, and their problems, like fixing showers and windows or whatever..
scottser
exactly. i shall be keeping my bargepole safely stashed away with this one.
pedeyw
There’s probably a property management company or something. I’ve rented a few places taken care of by a company on behalf of a landlord.
noncanonicalpokemon
i reckon i could fix 4% of an immersion
#Selfie Face
Solicitors nightmare
Supercrazyprices
4% of the rent at 86K per annum is only 3.4K not 4K. And that doesn’t take into account the maintenance vacancy periods, LPT, income tax on rental, etc.
This is going to end up in the courts in five years.
Stewart Curry
Just AirBnB it!
Ros
Massive implications of the way this is setup.
If it is as it sounds and the person is selling shares in an investment rather than shares in the property itself they will run in to major issues. Putting “crowdfunding” on something like this doesn’t magically make it any less of a type of investment vehical. I doubt this has being cleared with the central bank or regsitered accordingly as an REIT ( which is what it sounds like )
If instead they are selling shares in the phyiscal property it will be a legal nightmare with regard to legal rights of each part owner and especially how to deal with the option of a member to cash out ( will the others then have to buy them out ? who pays? )
JohnJoe
This is possibly an Alternative investment fund or something similar. Regulatory nightmare that would have to be underpinned with an outrageous amount of legal agreement between the parties. It will also involve the use of Trustees as you can’t stick everyone on it. There are legit regulated companies doing this already https://www.propertycrowd.com for example
Custo
I hope they all lose their arses
pedeyw
That’ll be a messy cleanup.
Spaghetti Hoop
Yet the ‘deal’ doesn’t consider that the buyer might want to live in 25% of the property. No, only for renting out. So it’s not good enough to be home, only an ‘investment’. Which is exactly the mentality of the greedy old Bulgarian apartment buyer of the Tiger days; property, property, property. Walk away from this scheme.
Reported to central bank, not sure how vigilant they are though.
Ros
Central Bank got back, seems they can’t see anything wrong with the advert.
wearnicehats
Is there a legal issue here? It’s not a new thing, especially “across the water”. The building is presumably bought by a limited company which, as the full price of the house is raised, has no debt. Each investor will then get preferential shares in the company and whatever dividend is due etc. The company would charge an initial percentage commission and then an annual management charge on your rental dividend. It’s risky sure but it’s quite a small risk relatively
Mourinho
Relax, loads of people do it.
Therefore it must be legal. :)
TheHouseCrowd.com in the UK are a big player and MoneyCrowd.ie haven’t been shut down by the Irish Central Bank yet
Kieran NYC
Won’t be until there’s an eventual sob story on Joe Duffy.
sounds dodgy .. who deals with all the landlord duties so? like dealing with the tenants, and their problems, like fixing showers and windows or whatever..
exactly. i shall be keeping my bargepole safely stashed away with this one.
There’s probably a property management company or something. I’ve rented a few places taken care of by a company on behalf of a landlord.
i reckon i could fix 4% of an immersion
Solicitors nightmare
4% of the rent at 86K per annum is only 3.4K not 4K. And that doesn’t take into account the maintenance vacancy periods, LPT, income tax on rental, etc.
This is going to end up in the courts in five years.
Just AirBnB it!
Massive implications of the way this is setup.
If it is as it sounds and the person is selling shares in an investment rather than shares in the property itself they will run in to major issues. Putting “crowdfunding” on something like this doesn’t magically make it any less of a type of investment vehical. I doubt this has being cleared with the central bank or regsitered accordingly as an REIT ( which is what it sounds like )
If instead they are selling shares in the phyiscal property it will be a legal nightmare with regard to legal rights of each part owner and especially how to deal with the option of a member to cash out ( will the others then have to buy them out ? who pays? )
This is possibly an Alternative investment fund or something similar. Regulatory nightmare that would have to be underpinned with an outrageous amount of legal agreement between the parties. It will also involve the use of Trustees as you can’t stick everyone on it. There are legit regulated companies doing this already https://www.propertycrowd.com for example
I hope they all lose their arses
That’ll be a messy cleanup.
Yet the ‘deal’ doesn’t consider that the buyer might want to live in 25% of the property. No, only for renting out. So it’s not good enough to be home, only an ‘investment’. Which is exactly the mentality of the greedy old Bulgarian apartment buyer of the Tiger days; property, property, property. Walk away from this scheme.
Lost my at “is been”
God damn you ! ^me
Reported to central bank, not sure how vigilant they are though.
Central Bank got back, seems they can’t see anything wrong with the advert.
Is there a legal issue here? It’s not a new thing, especially “across the water”. The building is presumably bought by a limited company which, as the full price of the house is raised, has no debt. Each investor will then get preferential shares in the company and whatever dividend is due etc. The company would charge an initial percentage commission and then an annual management charge on your rental dividend. It’s risky sure but it’s quite a small risk relatively
Relax, loads of people do it.
Therefore it must be legal. :)
TheHouseCrowd.com in the UK are a big player and MoneyCrowd.ie haven’t been shut down by the Irish Central Bank yet
Won’t be until there’s an eventual sob story on Joe Duffy.
That’s how Ireland works.