Flipping The Bird

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Crackbird, Dame Street, Dublin.

C writes:

Further to photos I sent showing anti-homeless people measures taken by Crackbird using pot plants, I present the latest CB innovation. Homeless people had managed to sleep at the front door but not now…

Previously: And So To Bed

63 thoughts on “Flipping The Bird

      1. manolo

        It feels like a certainty that he will be involved in every single questionable deal that involves state money in this country.

      1. Joan Burton

        Maybe they’ll take them down Neilio if you offer to go in and Jeyes Fluid down their steps every morning.

        You should probably aim your anger at the government not the business owners tryin to make a living

  1. Colin

    Don’t really see the issue. The property owner has a right to protect their property and avoid liability should any incidents occur. Not painting all homeless with the same brush, but if something was to happen, the business could be directly and indirectly implicated in a negative light. Plenty of business’s support the homeless during daylight hours, I don’t feel the should have to offer their doorstep at close of business and should not be ridiculed for taking measures to curb it.

      1. Charger Salmons

        +2
        There’s no need for anyone to be homeless in Dublin.There are sufficient spaces in homeless shelters for anyone to have a roof over their head.
        Why would a shopkeeper want to open up with piss and detritus in their doorway ?

        1. myownself

          This isnt going to prevent people pissing and vomiting over shopfronts. Its also inaccurate to presume its just homeless people that do so.

        2. hans landa

          +3 agreed! personally i would say it doesn’t even have to have anything to do with business or personal liability if something happens outside the shop.

          At the end of the day, you don’t want homeless people sleeping outside your shop whether they’re messing it up or not.

        3. Clampers Outside!

          “There are sufficient spaces in homeless shelters for anyone to have a roof over their head.”

          So long as you don’t mind running the gauntlet of the possibility of being robbed, raped, buggered, bullied, beaten up…. not all places are safe, that’s why some choose to stay on the street. They didn’t choose because they like getting soaked to the skin on cold wet nights ya muppet.

          Just because there is a shelter, does not mean that it is safe.

          1. Bejayziz

            “the possibility of being robbed, raped, buggered, bullied, beaten up” – i’d hazard a guess that you’re more vulnerable lying on a piece of cardboard down an alley for all of the above than say, in a hostel. Many hostels have a dry only policy too so again i imagine it would be safer

        4. ahjayzis

          You might be interested to learn that homeless people, like other animals, rarely piss where they sleep. is it an instinct or something, who can say.

          My point being, his door is far likelier to be pissed on by rampaging students when there’s *not* a homeless person using it for shelter from the rain.

          As for the homeless shelter thing – take a wander through one, or ask people sleeping out why they’d rather freeze than wake up in one of those places.

          1. Jonotti

            So you’re saying that there is nothing wrong with the shelters as a physical space. The problem is with the people that occupy them. But I thought all homeless people were paragons of virtue that were hit with some unfortunate circumstances.

          2. ahjayzis

            I’d love someone to do some research into the right-wing brain that makes it seemingly incapable of shades of grey, it’s really infantile, it’s always either ‘everything’s fine quit complaining’ or ‘the world is ending’.

            People sleeping on the streets as opposed to in hostels tend to be the people afraid of the hostels – because they’re off drugs and drink and don’t want to be surrounded by it (dry-hostels are few and far between), or don’t want to be attacked by drunks, or don’t want to wake up with their shoes and jacket stolen.

            If you or I were homeless I can guarantee we’d be looking for a nice doorway by night two.

            Besides this is only part of a trend in street landscaping to drive out rough-sleepers.

            http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jun/13/anti-homeless-spikes-hostile-architecture

          3. Dόn Pídgéόní

            There is a shortage of affordable housing and social housing and thousands on the housing list.

          4. Jonotti

            So rather than spend 275 of your 900 monthly welfare payments on a room you’d sleep in the door way of crsckibird. Yeah, that’s reasonable.

          5. Andrew

            Ah I see the ‘look after our own first’ brigade have already turned to their more traditional ‘get the homeless out if sight’ agenda

        1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

          We don’t really have an upper class here. Upper middle class, fo sho. I’m middle middle with notions.

        2. Neilo

          Why’s it to got to be a class thing? My background is a baw’hair’s width away from Garcon du Piss. I had to work really hard to cultivate this supercilious, élitist demeanour. *Affixes monocle with undeniable hauteur – beats ragamuffin soundly with silver-tipped can*

    1. Dong

      I can imagine the outraged head on “C” taking these pictures. One from each side for full effect then scurrying up Dame st in a rage while sending to BS. C, get a life.

  2. Bruce Wee

    Agreed Colin. Why not address the real problem. There is a complete lack of available beds for homeless people within the city center?

    1. Jonotti

      The people themselves are the real problem. There are beds, kitchens, addiction supports all available to them. Hundreds of thousands are spent per person every year yet we will always be guilty of neglect.

      1. Mr. T.

        Yes Jonotti.

        Let’s ignore the causes of addiction and homelessness and pretend it just popped up out of nowhere.

        Let’s ignore what middle class tax dodging does to state funding to improve disadvantaged areas and vulnerable people such as those who suffer from mental health problems and end up on drugs.

        Let’s pretend there hasn’t been generations of exclusion and deliberate policies of exclusion for certain social groups in this country (such as access to third level education and certain schools).

        Ireland is socially divided and the middle classes willfully accept it and pretend they are not complicit.

  3. Rob_G

    If you feel very strongly about it, C, you can always take your business elsewhere. Though maybe you would feel differently about it if you were trying to run a business and had to roust a homeless person from in front of the front door every morning.

  4. human

    Not only should these business’s let homeless sleep in their doors they should also let refugees … Have a heart .

  5. Fluter bad

    Can we see the measures C is taking to accommodate homeless people at his own property? No, I doubt it, doubt it very much.

  6. Smell My Cheese

    There is a thin, but very distinct line between being a considerate, compassionate and even handed person and being a whiney hippie tw*t who thinks we are all collectively responsible for things like homelessness and drug addiction.

    Has the muppet who took these pictures ever observed a business owner trying to remove an aggressive, drunk and potentially violent person from their doorway? I saw it every morning when i lived in Temple bar. Often the cops had to be called. Ugly scene to have to deal with at 8 am, every morning.

    1. Dόn Pídgéόní

      I lived in Temple Bar too and never saw that once. Anecdotes eh? Oh, and the only people I saw pi***ng in doorways were people who had been out clubbing.

      1. human

        dude Dόn Pídgéόní you have an answer for EVERYTHING? Like seriously whats your agenda? You seem to be the conversation stopping voice of unreasoning on sided ultimate truth on every single post…. A. Your Boring and B. Your boring

          1. Peter Dempsey

            I agree Human.

            Don is the most right-on poster of them all. A chinstroking whiner that has to take the underdog’s side – no matter what.

      2. Bono's Pox

        another bawwing apologist.

        where exactly did you live? I see it once or twice a week near cow’s lane. get woken up by the homeless folk shouting at the people trying to move them as well.

        great craic altogether, but not as good as your comment, obviously.

        1. Dόn Pídgéόní

          Hey man, why the aggression? I thought we were just sharing our opinions that are based on nothing more than anecdotes like Smell’s?

          1. Bono's Pox

            Aggression, sure. you know your trolling is passive aggressive, right? Be smarter about being a d*ck and one day you might actually be funny.

    2. Seriously

      I worked in Temple Bar and while building works were being done, we had a homeless guy sheltering in the boards erected for scaffolding. All sympathy I had for him was [i]washed away[/i] after I had to clean up his shite on a hungover Saturday morning.

      Expecting Private citizens to have either the expertise or will to look after homeless people is just silly, the Government should be providing services for these people.

  7. Draxx Ltd II

    I used to work on Lower Abbey st and had to move homeless guys away from the door everytime i had to leave the studio. They were all fine about it and mostly polite but it scared people from entering.
    The homeless situation is very bad but sleeping in door ways doesnt help anyone including them. I dont blame this chap for protecting his business.

  8. Mr. T.

    I don’t blame a business for protecting their property and discouraging homeless people from squatting. I would so the same thing.

    But I would also (and do) contribute to charities who help the homeless so they don’t resort to sleeping rough.

  9. R

    What has this got to do with p*ss?
    If the bollards have been put there surely it’s a last resort to a problem that they have with homeless people sleeping there. I walk past here every morning at 9am and 9 times out of 10 there’s someone sleeping there, surely it’s a nuisance to have to deal with that everyday.

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