Appropriate Women

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Oireachtas Retort’s latest podcast:

Abortion in Ireland and lack thereof.

OR writes:

This show begins with Fláiva Simas from Galway Prochoice reading a migrant’s perspective on Savita Halappanavar. A musical interlude from Sissy and then I am joined in conversation with Niamh Puirséil and Máiréad Enright. Topics covered include just about everything from law, politics, respectability and media ‘balance’.

Closing things out, Linda Kavanagh from the Abortion Rights Campaign and Goretti Horgan from Alliance For Choice give us an activist update from north and south.

Oireachtas Retort Podcast Episode Three (Oireachtas Retort)

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12 thoughts on “Appropriate Women

  1. Jimmee

    The Repeal the 8th need to come out with a convincing argument to this my body/not my body dilemma.

    A woman has a miscarriage at 10 weeks and is distraught at dozens of attempts to get pregnant.
    A woman has an abortion at 10 weeks.

    When is it “my body” and when is it “not my body”.

    I’d be leaning pro-choice but I still think the Repeal the 8th groups are not answering this particular issue fairly.

    1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

      How is that confusing? One woman wants a baby – her body, her choice. Another doesn’t – her body, her choice. That first woman may even at some stage had an abortion, it doesn’t mean this pregnancy is any less wanted.

      1. ALisonT

        While I agree with much of what you say it is confusing when many of the same people then come out against prostitution as they don’t want to allow women the choice of doing what they want with their bodies if money is involved.

        1. Lorcan Nagle

          It’s a blind spot that Feminism has had for a long time, but it’s changing. Younger feminists are far more likely to support sex workers, to the point that a number of pro-choice activists I know are also involved in sex worker advocacy groups.

        2. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

          Hmm not really. It’s an argument along the same lines. If a women is truly free of coercion then sex work is fine with the criticism being that actually that is a rarity and many are not free to make the choice to do so (pressured by partner,s poverty, drug use etc). Same is true of abortion. If you don’t have a choice because your country doesn’t allow abortion or you could be jailed or all the clinics were shut down then you don’t have agency just like someone who is forced into sex work.

          But that really depends on what side of the fence you fall on in terms of radical feminism more than anything.

    2. LW

      The body you’re in is yours? The other ones are also owned by the residents thereof. Hope this helps

    3. Lorcan Nagle

      It’s your body when your body – your arms, legs, head, brain, circulatroy system, organs, and whatever else.

      Every other body on the planet? Not yours.

      Bodily autonomy is about allowing people to make the best choices for themselves.

  2. Tony

    I also think the flippancy with which the pro choice people speak about abortion does them and their supporters a disservice. I profoundly dislike abortion and wish it never happened, but I cannot deny the right of the woman to chose. However, the bravura attached to it by some pro-choicers and their dismissal of the unborn is rather sad and uncouth.

  3. Peter Dempsey

    How many of the people involved have children?

    e.g. Fláiva Simas, Niamh Puirséil, Máiréad Enright,.Linda Kavanagh, Goretti Horgan and the Oireachtas Report Handleaar chap

    Just curious.

    1. ahjayzis

      Completely irrelevant point. I’m not a woman, but I support fair pay for women. I’m not a father but I abhor child abuse. I’m not a mother but I support a woman’s right to control what happens to her own body.

      Seriously, you might want to pull back from this argument before the other side starts asking about the likes of Ronan Mullen and his sugar-daddies in the church hierarchy and how many kids / gay marriages / pre-marital sexual relationships they’ve had between them.

  4. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

    That’s how to write a slogan.

    It’s a lot better than “Keep the Recovery Going” anyway that’s for sure.

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