Siptu members and Luas drivers at the Luas Red Cow Depot in February
In a week of outrage over a Gerry Adams tweet and lack of solidarity with Luas drivers, the author asks:
What are ye like?
Frilly Keane writes:
So tell us…
When did we turn into uptight intolerant moanie and whatever the collective noun for pain in the hole is? I’ll just put Proctalgia Fugaxies out there to try on. If it fits keep it.
I know it’s the ‘ism-age, and the risk of an allegation of sexism, racism, ageism, flatulism, whatever BadAtMeme is ‘ism coming from all our encounters and exchanges is high.
But I wonder if we’ve allowed ourselves get too fenced in by these imposed standards, and not just in the work place but in everyday life.
Day’cent manners worked for years for anyone that bothered to learn them, keep them on after they left their Mammy, and even shared them and then went to the trouble to hand them down.
I was at a conference last week, in the bar, having the craic, and one of the ould’lads (and a known shit-stirrer) said “it can’t be much of a hotel if they serve pints to ladies.” Well the spell of silence that descended could have been measured for humidity.
I didn’t even get the opportunity to laugh it off with a let’s go somewhere where he can get a pint of rockshandy in comfort before his prayers.
You know the type; the youngest in the group, passed a few exams and thinks they’re a hero, knows everything, and expects to be your boss before you retire. The kind that wears skinny pants to work. Let’s call her Anne.
Well Anne just exploded with an amped up indignation that was so contrived and fake that if you could visualise it, it would look like a Quentin Tarantino trailer. And for no reason other than just to gain attention. Is this the best use of outrage? To actually make yourself the lasting impression?
I’d hang out with Anne, just for the craic like and see who she falls out with next, but would I engage her, recommend her, or even work with? Never. That temperament is too risky and high maintenance.
If there was one thing the Paddies would have been renowned for it was our ability to see the funny side of anything. Even funerals. But lately, and I’m beginning to look at the WebSummit Population for spreading this btw, instead of someone, usually the usual oddball, taking offence or issue, there’s a parade of ye.
Ur’Jurry cracked a joke over the weekend, and entirely in context, and it was funny. Be honest, it was. But got a bigger kick out’ve the outrage. It was a basic well-worn gag that was presented with context; a Sunday night tweet from his own front room and not the White House briefing room.
What are ye like…
I’m actually disappointed Jurry backtracked and apologised; I’d’ve stood over it meself, it was a weekend quip FFS, not a policy decision or a manifesto entry. And to be fair, I’ve said worse about the Kerry lads and they don’t start crying and mobilising the HashTag Protesters.
And ye all were, Sunday night, Monday morning, Tuesday morning and still all posting yere insult (like I said, I blame the WebSummitteers.) Calm the cheezuz down FFS. It must have hit serious knobs if Mick Flavin gets his nib out.
Ye nearly wet yereselves when Tuesday brings another Luas stoppage, and yere all at it again, it’s like ye just can’t help it. Ye were all over it like it was another Bank Holiday.
It’s an official dispute, and the stoppages are day long and not Months. Would ye just get over yerselves and go back to revalue yere maintenance specs. Seriously, they’re unmanageable.
Anyone remember the 5 month Postal Strike back in the day? (I do ‘cause I was hard done by with the lack of Confirmation cards, the sealed ones) the Dunnes Strike over the South African oranges, ESB on off on off, even the Banks.
When the buses were out one time, the army came in, and there was murder. People would actually continue walking rather than get on the free truck into town.
I come from a house where you NEVER cross a picket, whether you agree with the grievance or not.
My late aunt was very prominent in the Fordss ’68 strike and did not budge despite severe and criminal harassment from the Irish in Dagenham/ Romford at the time, and my Nanna wouldn’t have given a tinker’s curse (her words) where her oranges came from.
But by Christ anyone she saw crossing that picket on Patrick Street would’ve known all about it, even from the No.8 stop at the Savoy. And as for the time the Army lads came around to collect the bins …. Let’s just they were lucky she was too house-proud to let anyone see the potty she kept under the bed, and if my mother didn’t step in the oul’divil would have had a taxi taking her rubbish up to the dump.
I bring this up now, not for a reminiscent voyage, but because the overwhelming lack of regard for the Picket and the Luas workers is uncalled for, and in my opinion obscene.
If you are not directly involved in this dispute, then why discuss the pay-rates or the education or the qualifications of a worker. It’s an official dispute. Mocking these workers in the manner that Broadsheet has hosted here is nothing short of providing Scab labour for Transdev.
Lemme tell ye sum’ting lads, unless it’s your job to know or your livelihood/ business, other peoples pay and conditions of employment shouldn’t be any of your business. If you think they are, then post up your own payslips.
I’m not a trade unionist by the way, and the only Labour candidates I’ve ever voted for were the Uptons. I have been caught up in a few strikes and work-to-rules that caused mayhem for me personally and professionally, but sur’ that’s the way it goes. Or that’s the way it should go.
The poor me Mummy whinging around the time of the Teachers’ one day strikes was worse than a 6 year old’s birthday party.
The right to strike is sacred, it goes back centuries, and crossing a picket line was one time seen as an act of disloyalty to your colleagues, comrades and community. When did that change?
Solidarity with colleagues, comrades and your community cannot be an occasional or seasonal concept. In fact showing Solidarity only when you feel like or when it suits you sounds like a very Thatcherite ethos to me.
Have we got so precious about out lifestyles and our own self-interest that we’ve forgotten the PAYE protests, the Tractors, the laundry workers strikes, the Vita Cortex workers or the Suffragette movement?
Or have we turned into spoilt uninterested brats who’ll only get exercised if the wiffy gets cut?
So tell me. When did ye turn into the uptight frigid fragile high maintenance former WebSummitteers?
Frilly keane’s column appears here every Friday. Follow Frilly on Twitter: @frillykeane
Frilly out (of touch)
ah would ye ever Feck off
I scanned through this because I can not stand the writing style. It’s clunky, forced and insincere.
This paragraph will lose Frilly whatever friends he/she/it has on here:
“Have we got so precious about out lifestyles and our own self-interest that we’ve forgotten the PAYE protests, the Tractors, the laundry workers strikes, the Vita Cortex workers or the Suffragette movement?”
The luas drivers are not comparable to any of these in any way.
On the contrary, Daddy. I applaud Frilly for it. I can’t understand why people are getting so snobby over workers looking for an improvement to their wages and conditions. I can’t understand why people have fallen so quickly for Transdev’s PR spin, demonising the workers because they only press buttons, sitting on their backsides and (horror of horrors) they don’t even have degrees. Trained monkeys could do their jobs, amirite?!?
The Public Service on their “average” of €900 a week (ha, I wish!!) used to be the punching bag to distract us from other things happening in society. Now that people know that the spin is far from reality, a new punchbag is needed and it seems the Luas workers are ripe for a bashin’ and being used to focus public hate away from incompetent government and their cronies..
Thank you, Catherine!
Frilly, you have excelled yourself today, I love your feistiness and spirit. Your topics were on point, interestingly varied and your views, well informed, respectful and empathetic.
The most interesting and well written column or thread on here all week, Frilly.
Thanks to you and Golden Discs competition
results, Friday ls are something ti look forward ti on BS
Why does Frilly’s column appear here every week? It’s woeful. I could write a better column in the snow.
I can’t wait to see that….
Ya might have ta’ Micky
Heatwave stuff ahead
The 100th post.
Fitting it should be you Frillsers.
Ah sur who’s counting
* looks down *
D’ya think he’s got a snot on
Mick brings only joy to the world.
Spot on as usual Frilly….backlash should be here soon.
Ah sur you know me Willie
The more the merrier
To sum up: Obey the commissariat, no questions.
It’s called bargaining, silly, one of the core principles of doing business. They embraced capitalism and fight for resources. As they should and as expected.
Jesus I just can’t read this stuff. It’s like listening to a taxi driver who did a six week night course in history in his local VEC.
Now you know how the rest of us feel, when we have to decipher your “output”.
You’re a great fella for shouting about class-ism this, class-ism that. Just listen to yourself.
very apt description. unreadable. I can just about understand it if I scan for the bolded bits. Very grating, sub-Roddy Doyle rambling.
sounds like that guy from AAA over on the Journal that just copies and pastes the same “james connolly solidarity with the tesco workers/luas workers/all working class heroes trying to make their way in a capitalist world” crap
would I engage her, recommend her, or even work with? Never. That temperament is too risky and high maintenance
So it’s Anne, rather than the no-pints-for-ladies troglodyte that Frilly wouldn’t engage, recommend or even work with? Says a bit about Frilly’s values, that.
its valuable enough to know the difference between a Bar and social setting and a place of work
but that’s just me
People should also be able to go for work drinks without being sexist/racist/an idiot no?
However it started out as nothing more than a what’ve ya on for my dinner
A gentle slagging
He wasn’t looking to make a formal complaint or boycott the place
Hopefully the office Santa gets him a joke book so he can update his material from the 80s
The thing about people taking umbrage and false outrage to get attention. That. Loads of it. Here.
AMEN to every word of this.
Truest thing I’ve read on this site in ages.
Nice one, Frills.
I predict 100+ comments on this one Frilly…
“If you are not directly involved in this dispute, then why discuss the pay-rates or the education or the qualifications of a worker. ” ….isn’t the point of a strike to draw attention to ones cause, and therefore involve those from outside the dispute, and not just those ‘directly’ affected. Just sayin’
I’ll disagree with the “joke” Gerry made, because Gerry’s response after was even more ridiculous than the tweet. He made an ill informed mistake and displayed his own ignorance, but he apologised. So yeah, leave it at that, even if the apology was also cack-handed.
“unless it’s your job to know or your livelihood/ business, other peoples pay and conditions of employment shouldn’t be any of your business.” Not necessaril;y so Frilly. If the job is in semi-state / state body / civil service / etc…. then it is every tax payers concern. Luas is a public service, and we don’t need another ESB with inflated salaries.
On the flip side, should people ignore strikes that they DO agree with, and not show support? Cake and eat it stuff.
Luas / tram drivers across Europe are not seen as in the same league of transport vehicle drivers as trains are. Why should Ireland’s Luas drivers be raised to such a status in Ireland? I do wonder.
“I come from a house where you NEVER cross a picket, whether you agree with the grievance or not.” and fair play on that, I wouldn’t either.
Fair play Frilly, I don’t agree with it all, the style’s improving, still a bit scattered in that I think you could tie it all better together and shorten it a little…. but good to get this out, off yizzer chest, before the weekend I’m sure… have a good one :)
“….isn’t the point of a strike to draw attention to ones cause, and therefore involve those from outside the dispute, and not just those ‘directly’ affected. Just sayin’”
No, it’s to financially penalise your employer, to fight fire with fire. Withdrawal of labour is the only card workers have on their bosses. Strikes, especially on public transport don’t put the public on the side of the worker.
Otherwise why would anyone not dealing directly with the public strike?
Bit o’ both, no?
Can you think of a public transport or public service strike in general that’s brought the public on side? They never do. It’s about fupping with the employer the way they regard the employer is fupping with them.
Didnt Dublin Bus do a “we won’t accept fares” strike a few years back? Zero disruption to public. Bus drivers clearly smarter than Luas.
Luas Drivers don’t deal with fares. Unless they bash the machines and card readers in that wouldn’t work – and then they’d be done for criminal damage?
Drivers and fare collectors/inspectors could easily have formed a pact. The problem was that the drivers wanted 2-3x what the fare collectors asked for, and wouldn’t accept a fair offer from Transdev.
I really don’t know what to say…
I’m pretty certain that you’re a decent person and I don’t want to fall out with you.
-Your snipe at SF, the first I presume of your 5-A-Day…Surely to God even YOU must be tired of it by now?
-Would you not give it a rest?
Put another record in the jukebox babe.
*friendly little whisper in the ear of badatmemes*
You know the way you often start off responses to people by making kind of juvenile fun of their usernames….do you realise that just makes you look like a twit?
@ Brother Bonobo’s bottom
You know the way you often start off responses to people by making reference to the way they make jokes?
-You should try to make a joke too sometime. Otherwise you realise that just make yourself look like more a twat?
@ Clampers. Tram drivers are paid less elsewhere. If you think that is a reasonable argument why not start at the top. politicians for example? Everyone is paid more in Dublin because the living costs are so crazy, not just Luas drives.
Everyone is paid more? Interesting.
Ok most are paid more. It is a very expensive city so the wages are higher. They are much lower in Belfast but so is the cost of living. The real metric is disposable income not top line.
This is really an excellent post, well done Frilly, though for a myriad of reasons I don’t quite agree with you.
I won’t bore you with them now, more, later.
So incoherent, so fragmented.
+1. There’s a point in the article waiting to escape but I don’t have the time to go digging for it.
‘outrage over a Gerry Adams tweet and lack of solidarity with Luas drivers’… It’s in the opening sentence DubLoony, no digging required.
Horrible writing style but contains a lot of truth.
I’m amazed at the outrage towards the Luas workers. They are not in competition with nurses etc. They want a better wage. The workers slating them are actually are cheer-leading for inequality in Ireland.
People do know that the gap between the rich and poor is growing? Why should the workers not get a fair share?
@ Goodmorning Ireland;
You said ‘They want a better wage.
I agree, but I think it would be fairer to say they want a fair wage.
It would be better.
does c.40k for an entry level position requiring modest training sound like a “fair wage”?
You’re right, Owen The C IS wrong.
It takes a finely-tuned set of blinkers to call a Luas driver’s job an ‘entry level position requiring modest training.’
I bet when he’s on the Luas, standing at the drivers’ door, saying out loud, ‘Why won’t he go faster, why won’t he go faster?, and his father gives him a clip around the ear-hole he’s not so mouthy then, is he?
-Or did you mean me?
Apparently one of the Luas striker’s issues was to do with scheduling. That drivers were placed on different lines (from France) with no consideration to proximity, as and when it suited. Now that is not being greedy or militant it is just asking Transdev (Violia) to do their friggen job.
But that sort of thing doesn’t wash with the mememe’s. They willingly swallow the media one line propaganda because they are too apathetic or selfish to even think for themselves then whinge about the inconvenience. Such surprise when discovered that there was more than drivers on strike. Seriously? This from people who think they are intelligent.
People do not strike without grievance. The very least you can do is educate yourself to what it is actually about. Spot on Frilly.
+ 54 %
very nicely put, soq
“because they are too apathetic or selfish to even think for themselves then whinge about the inconvenience.”
There’s also a lot of people that are borderline sexually attracted to authority. If they can’t be in authority themselves, they’ll satisfy that desire vicariously through situations like this; where they can tell workers to bow down, essentially.
@ Moyest : BS spanking is your aphrodisiac.
Yeah, smacking you trolls around really gets me off.
Don’t get carried away. You are more poker than smacker.
He said you’re too fat to be a smack addict.
bawawaaaa I am a SHE.
“attracted to authority” – they under a great delusion that authority is somehow protecting them. Authority will throw these under the train (pun intended) the minute they present a threat to personal margins.
Transdev must have known how expensive the living in Dublin is and how government perennially delegate its responsibilities to private businesses. Public healthcare, for example, is practically inaccessible for most people. So, employers must provide a health insurance package or other “perks” that aren’t “perks” but necessities. Etc.
The way I see it – it’s Trandev’s fault for poor business prospecting when they moved in. Transdev should be confronting the gov for forking out cash to make up for state planning/budgetary delinquency. And if they don’t – they shouldn’t complain and adjust wages for true inflation.
“Apparently one of the Luas striker’s issues was to do with scheduling…People do not strike without grievance. The very least you can do is educate yourself to what it is actually about..”
We know they have a grievance. It was multifaceted (i’ve read the full transdev document on the issue, which the unions do not seem to have denied). The biggest issue, by far, however, was that they want a large pay increase. If you didn’t know that, then yes you were being stupid. Equally, if you didn’t know most people knew that, you were being stupid.
The issue is whether the grievance was justifiable (hence the outrage over pay increases that were up to 54%), and whether the lack of resolution of said grievance justifies repeated strike action.
Yes Tansdev published a PR document and the union refused to conduct its business in public, hence no comment. Violia are very experienced in these sorts of games and the pay part of this dispute is not one pay increase but a series over a long period. Lumping all together is absolute spin.
From day one of the recruitment drive, Violia made it very clear that they were anti union and it took them a good five years to even recognise one. They haven’t moved far from that position since but the clock is ticking and penalties are already being imposed.
Is Owen Reedy not on the radio at every opportunity?
I’m in the US yet I know all about how “terrible” the Luas drivers have it.
When the opposition has already set the agenda you talk around not to it.
I enjoyed it Frilly…. grand piece for a Friday morning….
Wtf. That hurt my eyes. Can’t be much of site if they let Women post here.
Or arseholes, such as your own fine self. But we can’t have everything now, can we?
Oh meadowlark. There goes your promotion.
You clearly are not at the intellectual level to realise what i was referring to.
“Anyone remember the 5 month Postal Strike back in the day? (I do ‘cause I was hard done by with the lack of Confirmation cards, the sealed ones) the Dunnes Strike over the South African oranges, ESB on off on off, even the Banks.”
Anyone remember Ireland being an economic wasteland for 50 years or so? Some relationship between that and widespread industrial disputes?
@ Owen C
While I commend your aspirations to upper middle management in your own world, it is devoid from the Luas reality. Veolia were awarded the contract at a time when there was a broad and somewhat naive assumption that private would provide a better public service because it was ‘for profit’.
We now know that is not the case.
“Solidarity with colleagues, comrades and your community cannot be an occasional or seasonal concept. In fact showing Solidarity only when you feel like or when it suits you sounds like a very Thatcherite ethos to me.”
So, this issue aside, hypothetically even if workers were wrong in striking you would have to support them? Is that what you’re saying?
Me life on yah, Frilly, telling it like it is – and still should be.
“If you are not directly involved in this dispute, then why discuss the pay-rates or the education or the qualifications of a worker”
So, its ok to talk positively about the strikers, but not negatively? They-are-right-cos-they-are-workers? Is Frilly’s version of Broadsheet no longer as open minded as we assumed?
A lot of people are pretty gleeful in jumping to the defence of the profits of a foreign megacorporation valued around 10 billion, though.
I’m not jumping to the defence of Transdev. I am saying the actions of the staff are the problem. And that is my right to do so, Frilly is not the moral compass we must all align ourselves with.
(a) the wage claims of 22.5% (plus additional 4% bonus) sounds to most people as unjustified. Why would the likes of Jack O’Connor and our own Moyestie try to downplay that 22.5% to “just 10%” if they thought 22.5% was perfectly reasonable?
(b) If they did work-to-rule, didn’t accept fares, engaged in practices which hurt Transdev but didn’t hurt the average commuter they would have much more public support on their side. This is an unquestionable fact.
What’s unjustified about it though? Honest question. I mean CEO’s award themselves bonuses of massive percentages of salary every day in the world and it rarely garners headlines or claims of it being unjustified. If Transdev paid a big dividend to it’s shareholders this year would there be headlines of it being unjustified or greedy?
I’m not massively au fait with the dispute or the company, but if their pay has been frozen for years while business on the Luas has ticked up, and it’s expanding massively to new lines and not planning to hire a whole lot of new drivers to compensate, what’s the problem? If a company is doing well, the workers should do well. Their salary isn’t a favour or gift to them, if a business is making money the workers are entitled to their share.
“I mean CEO’s award themselves bonuses of massive percentages of salary every day in the world and it rarely garners headlines or claims of it being unjustified”
Seriously, have you ever read a newspaper?
The SIPTU pay claim is unjustified because they can’t really explain why its justified. Seriously, what is the official SIPTU justification? “They can afford it” is not a justification. If someone raised the prices on something you were buying (and an employers buys your labour) simply “because you can afford it”, would you think that is justified? A wage claim needs to be justified through showing why the workers deserve it, not because the employer can afford it. Employers can “afford things” because they either (a) they bring in more revenue through better products, (b) their workers are more productive which brings in more revenue/lower costs or (c) they cut costs through non-labour efficiencies. No one has been able to show that the workers have been 20% more productive. The increase in Luas revenues is a direct result of more people working in the economy and more economic activity taking place. The benefit of that increase in Luas usage should be the State and the average commuter when the next Luas contract comes up for renewal, through an increased tender price paid for by the Luas operator and/or through lower Luas fares for the commuter (because we all know whatever the wages are at the end of the Luas contract will automatically be the starting wages for the next one). I have yet to see any credible justification for why the Luas workers should be the ones who accrue the benefits of greater Luas usage.
Well they could be more productive and drive two trams at once I suppose…..
Are you suggesting that people should always strive to be more productive to get a raise? What about a rise in line with inflation?
@ Own G;
You said ‘…Frilly is not the moral compass we must all align ourselves with.
I felt lost for a moment, until you swooped straight back in with you (b) and your unquestionable fact.
It’s you, isn’t it? -You’re the moral compass, aren’t you?
-Where do I collect my £5.00?
No, I’m not the moral compass. I’m offering an opinion. Frilly doesn’t like some of our opinions (as clearly stated above).
too incohrent; didn’t read:
1. The author witnessed a woman who acted falsely outraged when someone made a misogynistic comment about her. This was one example of Irish people who are unable to take a joke.
2. Recent public outrage at Gerry Adams’s “Nigger” joke was also falsely exaggerated.
3. People should not dare to have an opinion about the validity of Luas strikes. Its none of our business. We should silently bow our heads, and don’t ask any questions… This is because every strike in history has been worthy of unconditional support.
Did broadsheet just jump the shark?
You say you ‘didn’t read’,eh?
I rest my case.
What does ‘jump the shark’ mean? It doesn’t sound like something anyone should do.
“Jump the shark” jumped the shark years ago.
“I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it and what’s it seems weird and scary to me, and it’ll happen to you, too.”
Fetishing the untrammeled can lead one down the road of delusion.
This IT piece speaks more about Ireland than the cr@p posted here every Friday
In London I’m glad to be away from Ireland’s blame culture
via The Irish Times
Enjoy blame-free life under the Tories.
100% agree with that lady.
She probably wrote the article on her 8 hour commute to work.
Frilly love the column
Its Joycean in a flowing stream of conciousness way
“I come from a house where you NEVER cross a picket, whether you agree with the grievance or not.”
Well Frilly, I come from a house where we think for ourselves, and don’t blindly follow mobs (establishment or otherwise).
No, you blindly follow authority.
Serf by name ….:D
A++ troll. Didn’t agree with sentiment expressed, but appreciated obnoxiousness. Would snigger at again.
What is this nonsense?
“Every 15 minutes”….
I liked it too Frilly.
I liked it a lot.
-Eleven out of ten for content, but only six out of five for delivery.
Horribly written, all over the place. This was just an incohrent rant. Booo to you sir, boooo!
awww boo boo
wha’ da’ matta wi’ da’ boo boo
Frilly Keane: https://youtu.be/xGmvfowkQlc
Frilly, I admire the size of your balls.
I was going to say something else.
-Something about Bertie Ahearn not having testicles growing out of his head.
It’s gone now, forgotten forever.
Frillys granny sounds like an auld slag.
I can see the point about the faux outrage about Jarry. The guy isn’t a racist he’s just a bit thick in the social sense – but he’s from a different era like most old people. Everyone getting their pants in a twist is just par for the course these days. Although it wasn’t helped by his daft – I don’t see myself as white – explanation.
Although there is obviously the counter point that SF are so overly outraged over everything, all of the time -so what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Is outrage every justified? Is it just a media tool to make people consume more media? Generally I don’t give a feck about anything that doesn’t immediately impact me or my family. Maybe terrorist attacks (like france or belgium) but general day to day crapy media outrage, I’m a bit “meh, sort out your own problems, I’ve laundry and hoovering to do later”
He just should have said “Of course I’m not racist – I’ve never killed any black people” and left it at that.
Is not killing someone because of the colour or religion of said person not racist.
“The kind that wears skinny pants to work.” OMG.. That is so me. Are you following me? My pants are like phure skinny.
And yes I would be your boss in no time… they usually promote the best and brightest.. and like considering the financial know-how you exude around these parts, that wouldn’t be you Frilly nilly. There are followers and there are leaders and there are some that can just about switch on their computer in the morning. I’m afraid the Frillster might fall into the latter category.
I think it’s time for another banning for you Sybil.. Admins? What’je reckon?
You’re getting yourself in a muddle badger/catherine/rory/spawned.
I’m not Anne. Nor Pawal. Believe it, don’t believe it. I couldn’t care less.
Not everyone goes in for the multiple name lark. Most of us couldn’t be bothered. Not that you could understand that.
D’ya know sum’ting Anne
You’ve commented more on this thread alone.
Seriously. On this thread alone.
Than I’ve commented on all the other columnists, combined, since Johnny offered me this gig.
So where you’re getting your ‘I’ve been a right (uπt’ from is a mystery ta’me
But work away
“You’ve commented more on this thread alone.
Seriously. On this thread alone.
Than I’ve commented on all the other columnists, combined”
Finance isn’t your strong point all right.. learn to count.
I promise you Anne
Go back on all Monday with Mercy, Taft on Tuesday, the Midweek Candidates Hearnia and Anna Marie, Dan daMan’s. Even the Leather Jackets.
Run your own tally
And then let’s see who can get their sums right
Btw. Don’t copy and paste my words into your posts.
Find your own.
You must be sleeping with all the admin seeing as they’re so quick to ask “How high?” when you stamp your brattish trotters and tell them to “Jump”
If you give it be prepared to take it b*tch
Id day they’d run yelping for the hills ;-)
Re: *50’s – she couldn’t possibly be past her mid twenties, surely?????
Goes on like an aul wan though has the mentality of a pre teen I’ll admit
I know the type – all fur coat and no knickers
I bring this up now, not for a reminiscent voyage, but because the overwhelming lack of regard for the Picket and the Luas workers is uncalled for, and in my opinion obscene.
Completely agree with that..
I’ve been in full support of the Luas Drivers.
And where did you ever see me taking offence to nonsense such as that tweet from Gerry? I’d be the first to laugh at that sort of thing.. Just FYI I don’t take offence too much and I rarely fall out with anyone.. except if they turn out to be a bit deranged.
You argue round the clock, over and under it, never seen such attention seeking in all my days and ive raised three children!!!!
Grow the fk up and develop a wee bit of decorum and grace.
Dean has been most helpful.. you were warned.
Who da’ûck do you think you are?
A TV3 girl?
Getting a little ill tempered arent we now..
Not sure what you’re on about.. but you’re the one mentioning me in your posts.
And look at the freaks you’re drawing on me.. thanks.
You’ve been an unutterable silly billy to people like Anne-Marie McNally..for no reason that I can see.. other than jealousy, which I’ve called you out on. I’m sure you don’t like it, but you can go n poo.. I’ll ignore whatever mention I get in your barely comprehensible posts going forward..
Didn’t you kick up about the use of that term on another thread Sybil?
Cmere, I’ve better things to be doing.. buh bye..
Excuse me, this was only brought to my attention this evening.
I have five missed calls from Dean, all around 11pm last night
I’m the only person on this site who knows Dean IRL.
I know Anne in ‘real’ life too.
I work with Dean.
She has my office number.
I haven’t seen Anne in about 2yrs. (I’m no good at counting, apparently.)
I know Catherine McEntee IRL.
Anne thinks I’m Catherine.
I’ve never met Frilly.
But hey, I wasn’t even in this fight…
How did this happen?
It’s all a bit weird.
I’ll update you when I speak to Dean.
He’s not answering.
– Bring on the games!!!!!
He said somebody rang the office looking for me. He thinks it was a Garda.
Maybe the two things are unrelated.
-Weird though that his name is Dean and that that makes no sense.
-Weird that it happened at the same time, while I was sleeping.
-Hang on, let me ask Dean if it was a male Garda or a female one…
I won’t be long.
It was a Ban Garda!!!!!
-Who would’ve guessed?
Dean’s EXACT reply was;
‘She pretended to be a worker in [REDACTED]…asked for [THE BOSS]’s number
I gave it like a mongo
She put on a posh voice.
It’s like Corporation Street, or that other place on the telly.
…that other place on the telly.
-That’s the name of it.
I’m sorry, but this is so comical…I can’t let it go.
-I have to write a limerick.
If things don’t go quite how you plANNEd….
If into ‘Real life’ you should should strANNEd
Choose an adversary
Who’s weaker thAnne me
-But I don’t name names. UnderstANNEd?
Round One to sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on this site.
-The more of it you ‘understand’ the less sense any of it makes, but it also gets funnier so that’s okay.
There’s absolutely NO WAY it could be true.
-Anne will be along shortly. She’ll tell us her version of what she did last night. You can’t just start accusing people of stuff because you have proof.
Ban Garda – oh you!
Is there any version of naughty word you can say around here.. :)
You’d know, it’s you that’s in bed with admin, step up your pillow talk love.
Are you on the booze tonight? You can’t count and you’re more incomprehensible than usual.
You know Anne
Now that I know you’re a cry baby who can’t hold their own on a small forum without getting Site Admin and phony posters to help you out.
This will be my last reply to you.
You are a moron
With no wit or imagination
I don’t care what the reply to my Frill-Bit count is or the content
Nobody is obligated to even open up the thread
It’s not like you don’t know what’s going on inside
But I do care that you have assumed you’re entitled to patrol them like some volunteer moderator / head girl
Don’t ever copy and paste my words again Anne
Use your own
And Defend them yourself
The tinternet outgrew this crying for Mammy and inventing Gang Members 10 years ago
If you had any substance
Or certainty about your posts
You wouldn’t be crying to admins
Filling them with pasted content
Or replying to them yourself
So. Anne. You’re just fulla fart gas.
Dean in Admin, who she’s asked to delete mine and Rehabs posts.
It can’t be her”charm” all the Admiin are falling for, she has to be paying them in some way to barr Same Old Same Old/Rehab and delete posts the minute she yelps
I didn’t see any post that required deleting
Dean who minds the carrots..
* Broadsheet Spawned A Monster, not Rehab. Sorry, long day.
Apologies for these posts to Anne , Frill. I just cant abide the way she belittles people and sh*t-stirs when there’s no need for it and posting as a number of commenters.
You put alot of hard work into your column, it boiled my blood to see her post what she did.
Leave her be you old crone, putting someone down DOES NOT make you any better, more intelligent etc etc than them – it shows YOU for what we all know you are, namely, bitter, twisted, frustrated, jealous etc.
Well, that’s interesting: 6 comments removed in response to BSAM’s one above, yet, it’s allowed to remain – very insightful.
… Now that’s better.
Interesting article Frilly.
However – in my experience. – the same people who get outraged about Gerry Adams’ comment and the sexist joke will also SUPPORT the Luas drivers (not criticise them).
Twitter, Broadsheet and Rabble are full of such SJW outrage junkies.
No matter what they tell us
La la la la la
what the absolute fcku went on here?
I take a week of broadsheet and it turns into Home and Away?
Might as well weigh in late, even though i disagree with a lot of it, that’s your best column yet.