Once again railway bosses have found
An excuse not to go underground
The proposed station’s grand
But they don’t own the land
A failing which seems quite profound
John Moynes
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Once again railway bosses have found
An excuse not to go underground
The proposed station’s grand
But they don’t own the land
A failing which seems quite profound
John Moynes
Yes, I saw this in the Irish Times this morning, that a company by the name of Rail Investments Ltd which are registered in Malta have bought a warehouse on Sandwith Street which Iarnród Éireann had hoped to acquire in order to locate the sub station.
The question is who are Rail Investments Ltd.
We don’t need this now with the line under Phoenix park being opened
we do as the line under the phoenix park is not a through route connecting the lines – the big plus of this line is that it will allow a train run from Belfast to Cork through Dublin city centre without turning back on itself twice
The question indeed is who are Rail Investments Ltd, and are any of its owners or investors Irish patriots… by which of course is meant Irish developers.
Who is the king of Malta again?
Doesn’t “he who must not be named” have connections in Malta?
Ireland had an opportunity to build a metro system under Dublin during the boom, I think it was offered by a Japanese underground construction company. They rejected the plan, think of how well Dublin would be running now if it had happened. Traffic in Dublin is now unbearable.
The Japanese plan would have meant somebody somewhere would not have been making a killing out of the contracts. Hence the idea was killed at birth.
There is no reason why a private organisation cannot build and operate an underground in Dublin without recourse to taxpayers money. After all the original railways and tram lines were largely funded by private enterprise.
Yes, a private organisation could build and operate an underground in Dublin, but then the usual suspects would bitch and moan that this should not be outsourced.
Remember the M50 toll bridge? build and operated by a private organisation? and all the giving out about it and how it was a cash cow and a disgrace that the government let this private organisation rip off Dubliners?
2 billion for a £40 million bridge.
Is there a middle ground?
I’m not sure what you mean by “2 billion for a £40 million bridge.”
My point is that we have already done the “private organisation could build and operate [infrastructure]” and this doesn’t make the general people happy because then the private organisation is accused of milking the population.
The company built the bridge for about £40 million with an estimated return of €1.2 billion, not €2 billion, sorry about that, my point is we expect our representatives to make the kind of business deals they claim to be experts on.
This cost €400 million:
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Why do we sell ourselves so cheap?
This planning app is just to boost the ‘market’ price of the land so that IE will pay a fortune more for the CPO they’ll eventually have to get. This was the same crp that happened in Carrickmines when the M50 was being built.
As was then, the question is who knew what and when, and who gains from the deal.
Can the council not just reject the application or rezone the land. The CPO could then pay the correct price for the land if required.
Yes, but this would go straight to an Bord Pleanala and the high Court. even the delay would scupper the project for 10 yrs
sounds like a great idea then – the underground won’t happen within 10 years! and we get the land at its correct value!
monorail?
It would be best for all concerned