The issue is now the legislation that’ll come after it.
When will “Turn It Up to 12” appear?
phil
You know , I think you are right, just look at the comments from Dail so far, Its going to be a hell of a year after the referendum , and will never end ….
Very, very few shows are putting up Repeal. While they all did for Marriage Equality.
Daisy Chainsaw
There you go… all you handwringing fretters who are worried that the lack of billboards will lose the Yes vote, there’s tomorrow’s front pages for you.
andydufresne2010
+1
Spud
Front pages?
I doubt it.
Besides, it needs a tagline or an image.
Repeal? Why?
At least three prolifers get their message across, no matter how gory they do it!
“So this happened today” … why do people always have to add this phrase in? It’s everywhere.
Wait, what?!
… I literally can’t even….
Sentient Won
Article 40.3.3º
The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
Daisy Chainsaw
And it has failed miserably.
Sentient Won
Works as intended. No Abortion Industry in Ireland.
andydufresne2010
Very Irish. Export the problem and pretend it doesn’t exist rather than confront the situation like adults.
Oh and using words like ‘industry’ and ‘on demand’ just makes you sound mental. No right thinking person believes for one second that it would be anything other than a medical option. It’ll affect Ireland’s moral landscape as much as the legalisation of gay marriage did. i.e. not a jot.
Sentient Won
If we are to “confront the situation like adults” surely that means accepting responsibility for our actions.
You are free to make your own choices in life but you are not free from the consequences of those choices.
ReproBertie (SCU)
What if, instead of abortion, we force the women to have babies and then give them up to adoption by gay couples? After all, we were promised baby factories if we voted for marriage equality.
Nigel
Ah, old school ‘women must be punished for having sex by forcing them to have babies’ misogyny.
Sentient Won
You’re especially demented today Nigel if you think having a baby is some kind of punishment.
I think the real misogyny here is yours as you’re claiming that women can’t be responsible for their own actions, that they are so infantile we must protect them from the potential normal, natural outcome of a normal, natural activity.
Nigel
If you don’t subscribe to the view that women should be punished for having sex, because that all this ‘consequences of their actions’ talk really is, then allow them the freedom to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
ReproBertie (SCU)
You women really need to start taking responsibility for getting yourselves raped.
Sentient Won
Nigel:
” terminate unwanted pregnancies ”
Newspeak for Killing Babies.
I don’t subscribe to that brutal ideology.
ReproBertie (SCU)
I’m sure you’re aware that rape is given as the reason for an abortion in less than 1% of cases worldwide.
Hard cases make bad law. And your misogynistic sarcasm is still misogynistic.
Daisy Chainsaw
If you know of anyone Killing Babies, tell the gardai
ReproBertie (SCU)
And I’m sure you’re aware that I don’t really care what percentage of abortions are down to rape because I’m supporting Repeal anyway as it’s a wonderful opportunity to remove some bad law from our constitution.
Sentient Won
So if it’s not about rape then why mention it?
Protecting the right to life of the unborn and the equal right to life of the mother is bad law?
Geezz. Somebody did a number on you for you to be so damaged, misogynistic and hateful.
Either that or you’re shilling for the global Abortion Industry: estimated 56 million induced abortions every year, worth €Billions.
Sentient Won
Daisy Chainsaw:
Thankfully I am unaware of anybody systematically killing babies due to the protection offered to the unborn and their mothers by Article 40.3.3º of the Irish constitution.
Long may it remain.
Nigel
No you subscribe to a brutal misogynistic ideology that denies women access to health care.
ReproBertie (SCU)
I mentioned rape to point out the stupidity of your responsibility statement obviously.
Sentient Won
Nigel:
Abortion isn’t healthcare. It destroys human life.
ReproBertie (SCU):
Sliders gonna slide. You mentioned rape for shock value even though you know it’s not the reason for 99% of Abortions.
Frill the 8th
yes it is Senile One
Nigel
Cancer treatment is health care and thanks to the 8th there are certain treatments that have to be delayed or precluded if a woman is pregnant. Also, abortions are health care for women.
“As experienced practitioners and researchers in obstetrics and gynaecology, we affirm that direct abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman.
We uphold that there is a fundamental difference between abortion, and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child.
We confirm that the prohibition of abortion does not affect, in any way, the availability of optimal care to pregnant women.”
mildred st. meadowlark
Again, who are these practitioners and researchers? You didn’t answer me before.
This should never have been allowed to happen, and it is because of the 8th amendment that it did. It directly affects the quality of healthcare that doctors can offer to women in this country.
Those are nice words, you’ve quoted there. But empty rhetoric at the end of the day. Stories like the one I posted are the reality of the 8th amendment.
Might be worth mentioning that to Together For Yes who are currently fundraising the €50K they need for posters.
Sentient Won
So what you’re saying is: apart from Repeal Jumpers as a fashion item and some fake news media the Yes campaign does not have automatic or widespread public and/or community support.
Zzz zzz,
Who cares? Done deal.
The issue is now the legislation that’ll come after it.
When will “Turn It Up to 12” appear?
You know , I think you are right, just look at the comments from Dail so far, Its going to be a hell of a year after the referendum , and will never end ….
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/04/09/never-assume/
Very, very few shows are putting up Repeal. While they all did for Marriage Equality.
There you go… all you handwringing fretters who are worried that the lack of billboards will lose the Yes vote, there’s tomorrow’s front pages for you.
+1
Front pages?
I doubt it.
Besides, it needs a tagline or an image.
Repeal? Why?
At least three prolifers get their message across, no matter how gory they do it!
Yeah, sure. It’ll never get any press…https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1600&bih=917&tbm=nws&ei=M6DLWpr7KoLGwAKDj6C4Ag&q=maser+repeal&oq=maser+repeal&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0.10429.13068.0.13414.7.7.0.0.0.0.179.768.3j4.7.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.122….0.hcNMby5zutY
“So this happened today” … why do people always have to add this phrase in? It’s everywhere.
Wait, what?!
… I literally can’t even….
Article 40.3.3º
The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
And it has failed miserably.
Works as intended. No Abortion Industry in Ireland.
Very Irish. Export the problem and pretend it doesn’t exist rather than confront the situation like adults.
Oh and using words like ‘industry’ and ‘on demand’ just makes you sound mental. No right thinking person believes for one second that it would be anything other than a medical option. It’ll affect Ireland’s moral landscape as much as the legalisation of gay marriage did. i.e. not a jot.
If we are to “confront the situation like adults” surely that means accepting responsibility for our actions.
You are free to make your own choices in life but you are not free from the consequences of those choices.
What if, instead of abortion, we force the women to have babies and then give them up to adoption by gay couples? After all, we were promised baby factories if we voted for marriage equality.
Ah, old school ‘women must be punished for having sex by forcing them to have babies’ misogyny.
You’re especially demented today Nigel if you think having a baby is some kind of punishment.
I think the real misogyny here is yours as you’re claiming that women can’t be responsible for their own actions, that they are so infantile we must protect them from the potential normal, natural outcome of a normal, natural activity.
If you don’t subscribe to the view that women should be punished for having sex, because that all this ‘consequences of their actions’ talk really is, then allow them the freedom to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
You women really need to start taking responsibility for getting yourselves raped.
Nigel:
” terminate unwanted pregnancies ”
Newspeak for Killing Babies.
I don’t subscribe to that brutal ideology.
ReproBertie (SCU)
I’m sure you’re aware that rape is given as the reason for an abortion in less than 1% of cases worldwide.
Hard cases make bad law. And your misogynistic sarcasm is still misogynistic.
If you know of anyone Killing Babies, tell the gardai
And I’m sure you’re aware that I don’t really care what percentage of abortions are down to rape because I’m supporting Repeal anyway as it’s a wonderful opportunity to remove some bad law from our constitution.
So if it’s not about rape then why mention it?
Protecting the right to life of the unborn and the equal right to life of the mother is bad law?
Geezz. Somebody did a number on you for you to be so damaged, misogynistic and hateful.
Either that or you’re shilling for the global Abortion Industry: estimated 56 million induced abortions every year, worth €Billions.
Daisy Chainsaw:
Thankfully I am unaware of anybody systematically killing babies due to the protection offered to the unborn and their mothers by Article 40.3.3º of the Irish constitution.
Long may it remain.
No you subscribe to a brutal misogynistic ideology that denies women access to health care.
I mentioned rape to point out the stupidity of your responsibility statement obviously.
Nigel:
Abortion isn’t healthcare. It destroys human life.
ReproBertie (SCU):
Sliders gonna slide. You mentioned rape for shock value even though you know it’s not the reason for 99% of Abortions.
yes it is Senile One
Cancer treatment is health care and thanks to the 8th there are certain treatments that have to be delayed or precluded if a woman is pregnant. Also, abortions are health care for women.
https://www.dublindeclaration.com/
“As experienced practitioners and researchers in obstetrics and gynaecology, we affirm that direct abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman.
We uphold that there is a fundamental difference between abortion, and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child.
We confirm that the prohibition of abortion does not affect, in any way, the availability of optimal care to pregnant women.”
Again, who are these practitioners and researchers? You didn’t answer me before.
And as I mentioned before, the 8th amendment is responsible for this case.
https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/braindead-pregnant-woman-kept-on-life-support-31550989.html
This should never have been allowed to happen, and it is because of the 8th amendment that it did. It directly affects the quality of healthcare that doctors can offer to women in this country.
Those are nice words, you’ve quoted there. But empty rhetoric at the end of the day. Stories like the one I posted are the reality of the 8th amendment.
Turn out the pro-life campaign lies a lot. Sorry.
Are you unable to navigate a website Mildred?
https://www.dublindeclaration.com/signatories/
Hard cases make bad law. You know full well that the “Health Care” issue is a Trojan horse towards a full abortion on demand service.
Abortion is not health care. It destroys a human life.
Nigel accuses me of everything he himself is guilty of. It’s a typical SJW/Lefty/Liberal tactic and I reject his accusation completely.
Point out any lie I’ve posted today in this thread.
I was referring to the campaign itself Sentient not you but you lie when you say the 8th is not an impediment to women receiving health care.
1000 doctors disagree with you Nigel.
The actual experiences of Irish women disagree with dodgy campaign materials.
+ Ryanair flight
Painting on walls is the Repeal campaign’s version of “is there anything to be said for another Mass?”
That’s why it’s everywhere on social media and news websites . . .
They don’t realise that they are losing the war badly. Their oh so superior attitude is going down very badly with swing voters.
What is superior about the mural? Especially when compared with “love both”.
There’s a war?
Care to share with us these polls of swing voters?
the design brings HB products to mind….you thought the Iceberger was consistently good, wait until you try a Repeal thesth!
funny him drawing a heart when it’s a heart that stops beating.
It’s kinda not.
Not at 12 weeks or earlier. The organs required for life are only beginning to form and a very, very long way from functionality.
Yet the heart is beating at 6 weeks and petey is correct.
Or, to put it another way, you are wrong mildred.
conservative leftie pt..
paradigm
Is this logo copyrighted or trademarked, etc? Or can it be used by anyone, anywhere?
Copyright exists from the moment of creation, so yeah. They’ve made it available for non-commercial use though http://thehunrealissues.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Repeal-T-graphic.pdf
The artwork is copyrighted to Maser, yes? So, if someone is producing say t-shirts for a profit, using the logo, that’s a non-commercial use, yeah?
The signatories on that “Dublin Declaration” website.
I went down the list googling names as I went. After about the first 30, they are mostly in USA and Canada.
Worth pointing out.
Is it also worth pointing out that some of the biggest influence/pressure/motivation to change our constitution comes from outside Ireland?
http://www.worldtribune.com/leaked-documents-soros-planned-to-turn-ireland-into-pro-abortion-country/
Might be worth mentioning that to Together For Yes who are currently fundraising the €50K they need for posters.
So what you’re saying is: apart from Repeal Jumpers as a fashion item and some fake news media the Yes campaign does not have automatic or widespread public and/or community support.
Panic in the Streets of Dublin.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/alarm-at-apparent-lack-of-urgency-in-repeal-campaign-1.3456037
Alarm at apparent lack of urgency in repeal campaign
Well-organised anti-abortion campaign is weeks ahead in its postering and canvassing