Meanwhile, In The Merrion

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This afternoon.

Merrion Hotel, Dublin 2

A press conference for Nurses and Midwives 4 Life addressed by pro life independent TD Michael Healy Rae.

Above left Nurses and Midwives 4Life Vice ChairMargret McGovern, RGN, PRO Fiona McHugh, a clinical paediatric nurse specialist and Lecturer in Nursing Mary E. Fitzgibbon

The group claim 350 nurses and midwives on the NMBI Register have signed a petition asking the Minister for Health “to protect freedom of conscience in not forcing us to participate in abortions”.

Rollingnews

Meanwhile…

As the Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018 enters Report Stage, the Irish Family Planning Association (IFPA) has said the Bill needs significant amendment if it is to fulfil the promise of the Yes vote in the May referendum. Parliamentarians must take the criminal law out of medical consulting rooms and replace it with a provision guaranteeing access to abortion care.

IFPA Chief Executive Niall Behan said: “This legislation needs to facilitate access to quality abortion care. But instead of supporting doctors to provide best practice care, the Bill criminalises abortion and leaves healthcare providers vulnerable to vexatious allegations by those who oppose abortion. These criminal sanctions are already having a chilling effect on doctors.”

Mr Behan continued: “Continued criminalisation means the threat of sanctions – including a possible 14-year prison sentence – will be hanging over doctors, affecting the care they provide to women and girls. And some may decide not to provide abortion care at all.”

The IFPA says there are multiple provisions in the Bill which serve only to act as barriers to abortion access.

Irish Family Planning Association

48 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In The Merrion

    1. Rob_G

      I feel the same way (I cringe when I see him wearing it on television), even though there is no logical reason why this should be the case.

  1. Starina

    “now LAYDEEZ remember babby jesus and the fairies are watching you”

    he’s some eejit and I’d like to see a verification that all of these nurses are real, practicing midwives and OBGYN-related nurses. Because a duty of care means doing things you don’t always want to do, like saving a gangland shooter’s life or assisting in an abortion procedure. Don’t want to do it? Move into another career path.

  2. Dr.Fart MD

    as a politician he should be respecting the will of the people who voted. but he still shouts and shrieks at not getting his way. look at that photo of him, the second one. really looks like a priest warning that he who goes against his wish will spend eternity in hell. backward fupps like him shout and scare people to get their way. his breed are dying. and also, it’s rude to wear a hat indoors. clown.

    1. Ollie Cromwell

      ” as a politician he should be respecting the will of the people who voted. ”

      Welcome to Brexit,baby.

    2. Rob_G

      There is probably not a single thing that I agree with Michael Healy Rae on, but we live in a democracy, he is entitled to express his views if he wants to. You could use the same argument that you are making and say that Paul Murphy shouldn’t voice any criticism of the govt’s housing policy, as he should be respecting the will of the people who voted (for FG)

  3. newsjustin

    I’m worried. What with all this tooing and froing about these details, the bill may not be passed in time and the abortion services may not be delivered by 1st Jan.

    There are developing foetuses all around Ireland that are growing older by the day and, if we’re not careful, we may not be able to end their lives early in the New Year. The little fellas might just slip through if we don’t get Michael D’s signature on this Bill in time.

    1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

      Nobody who has chosen to make this decision is going to sit around waiting on this shower to get it together, other travel plans will already be in place.

        1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

          hopefully that woman will have the care she needs and support to make the right decision for her body, her health and her future, yes

          1. newsjustin

            At least 50% of the humans that you are so keen to see aborted will have grown into women. I care enough for women not to have them destroyed before birth.

          2. Nigel

            But not so much about their health and well being after they’re born. I mean, if we’re going to stick to this stupid level of argument.

  4. bisted

    …if you were a health professional working, or hoping to work, within a sytem where church and state were inextricably linked you would have to worry about how your pro-choice stance could influence your future career prospects.

  5. SOQ

    I have empathy with someone who doesn’t want to assist but I also have empathy with anyone who requires abortion services so, how do they manage this balance of rights elsewhere?

    Just adopt best international practice FFS. It is not like Ireland is the first country in the world to legalise abortion. If someone cannot work within those parameters then they retrain.

    1. newsjustin

      “Best practice” elsewhere is to desensitise societies to killing some unborn humans. Then, more and more, to make it so intrinsic to the medical professions that nobody who will not directly carry out or supervise the killings get pushed out of the professions in medicine that deal with maternity and pre-natal medicine. It’s a glorious new future of killing.

      1. SOQ

        And tell me, what makes ‘humans’ so precious over all other species on this planet? We are over populated as it is so why should there be more of us?

        Genuine question.

        1. newsjustin

          We’re special because we’re the only species with enough intelligence and self awareness to know that we are special.

          Even if you believe that the world is overpopulated with humans, that does not make aborting humans, or otherwise eliminating them, a good thing.

          1. SOQ

            My view is that the right to human life is not absolute but is on a gradient scale from conception to birth. And, that we are killing this planet with over population so for the first time ever, we should be questioning why there should be more of us. .

            But, the issue at hand is whether there should be some sort of conscience clause for staff and I ask what they do in other counties. It is not an unreasonable question because it is highly likely we will be following their lead.

          2. newsjustin

            “My view is that the right to human life is not absolute but is on a gradient scale from conception to birth.”

            Genuine question. Do you think there is a similar gradient scale for people if/when they become very old, sick or disabled?

      2. Lilly

        Hey, don’t knock it. When you’re 90, half blind and incontinent, you might be glad to be able to book yourself into the Eternal Spirit clinic without getting arrested at the airport.

        1. millie st murderlark

          I have a grandmother with dementia, and I’ve watched, along with the rest of my family, as every trace of the woman we knew vanished with every passing week.

          She’s in a home now, and a good week is one where she’s lucid enough to attempt engaging with us. She doesn’t know who we are anymore.

          I am absolutely terrified of this happening to me. I’d rather put a gun to my own head.

          1. Janet, I ate my avatar

            I recently listened to an elderly lady screaming for help, terrified of her carers who she doesn’t recognise, who have to unable to eat and incontinent, it would break your heart and begs the question to be asked about quality of life and life.

        2. newsjustin

          It’s interesting that the discussion turned to end of life care and euthanasia. A natural next step after removing the right to life of the unborn.

          1. ReproBertie

            Yes, it is the natural next step. If someone is in constant pain with no chance of a cure, but of sound mind enough to decide to end their life to end the pain, who are we to deny them?

          2. newsjustin

            We are people who know that euthanasia, where it is legal, has led, inevitably, to elderly people being coerced into that “option”, doctors and impatient families deciding for people, kids being euthanised and people with mental illnesses being euthanised.

          3. ReproBertie

            That sounds incredibly like all the anecdotes the Love Boats had about women being talked into having abortions.

  6. Lilly

    At the first mention of the words nursing home, I’ll reach for my secret stash of heroin and go out on a high!

    1. newsjustin

      It’s easy to think that, in good health. But you’re underestimating the innate human desire to live. I’ve seen it.

      1. Lilly

        And you’re underestimating the inate human desire to go when your faculties have deserted you and you have no quality of life. I’ve seen it – am seeing it.

      1. Steph Pinker

        … I’m not being facetious either; it’s not an easy decision for a woman to have a hysterectomy or terminate a pregnancy, but, fundamentally [with medical advice] it should be her choice – the same rules should apply for everyone regarding [having] the option of euthanasia.

  7. Dub Spot

    Fellow traveller:

    Gemma O’Doherty
    ‏ @gemmaod1
    Nov 26

    Every decent Irish person with a heart should be sickened by @FineGael ‘s abortion legislation. The people did not vote for this barbaric regime. If they are intent are ending the lives of innocent babies in the womb, the very least they can provide is pain relief for them.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1067190288496570368

  8. jimmey_russell

    we need to find out who each of these nurses are, report them to their hospitals and have them fired and blacklisted

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