39 thoughts on “De Tuesday Papers

  1. GiggidyGoo

    FG will pass this Siteserv/Actavo broadband one-bidder ‘tender’ at their peril. Riding roughshod in order to fill their pals coffers, yet again and in the communications field yet again.
    No sign of FGers calling around so far. I dare them.

    1. eoin

      The Irish Times yesterday carried the story of how FG is riding roughshod over the advice of permanent civil servants who are tasked with guarding the public purse. Why? To win votes in rural constituencies in the local elections? Or to bail out their favorite embattled billionaire?

      “Ministers have been advised formally that the €3 billion National Broadband Plan, due to be approved by the Cabinet tomorrow, does not represent good value for money. In advice circulated to all Ministers in advance of the meeting, the Department of Public Expenditure has said the plan benefits are not justified by the cost. ..formal objections raised in the department’s advice – known as “obs” or observations – are highly unusual. Even more unusually, the department was unable to confirm that the Minister, Paschal Donohoe, supports its position. A spokeswoman repeated Mr Donohoe’s line that he has received much advice and would make his views known when a decision is reached. Senior officials, including secretary general Robert Watt, have been warning in private for months about the plan, which would be the largest contract ever awarded by the State. Minister for Communications Richard Bruton has been lobbying colleagues in advance of the Cabinet meeting. And there have been signals from the Taoiseach’s office that it would be politically damaging to cancel the project, say sources. Once the plan is approved, the Government will embark on a campaign to “sell” the measure.”

      1. Cian

        This is bonkers. I hope they don’t go ahead with this plan.

        Unless they are pretending to do it before the council/MEP elections, and then pull it afterwards?

        1. GiggidyGoo

          There’s no pretence when Actavo are a beneficiary. Water meters a recent example. Once it goes into law, that’s it.

  2. Kevin Quinn

    Not good error on splash strap-head in Irish World. The man’s name was DOLAN not Donovan…

  3. Cú Chulainn

    So, today’s upshot is: its great to become a parent, though hard times be ahead. There are far far too many of us lot on the planet and a cull is due (so the papers say) and an actress took her knickers off. Not sure if there is anything more to add to the state of humanity.

    1. Cú Chulainn

      Oh god, sorry, Redacted’s broadband (clears throat) is going ahead.. a snip at €3bn (and counting)..

    2. small ads

      “Tired prince”? We have reached peak cultural appropriation. The poor little mammy, who’s laboured hard all night, only to have her exhaustion grabbed by her husband.

  4. Bernard Purcell

    Yes, the stand first is wrong, a last minute mistake, human error by someone under pressure to get to the printer after several attempts get the right headline who then found themselves with just minutes to go. Most embarrassing. Apologies and apologies again.

    1. dav

      you know, when the conversation goes quiet after you say something witty? That’s because nobody got it.

  5. Dub Spot

    Congrats to the happy parents. I think the media can coombe down over the home birth thing.

    1. deluded

      https://www.thejournal.ie/hogan-hits-back-at-claims-government-doesnt-care-about-climate-change-270589-Nov2011/?section=comment#comments
      The more popular comments are why bother when we are so small? and Climate change is normal. (But yeah, the economy is the priority).
      I had an old school mate explain to me this past Friday how onerous their low cholestoral/ low sugar diet is (they’ve lost all their excess flab and look healthy)
      This person told me how expensive it was to eat in “Chopped” everyday. They were also angry that “vegans are killing farmers” (this was part of the same conversation).
      It’s important to note that this person is very successful in business so can plan and do sums. Also, everyone there agreed with them.
      I believe it’s part of right-wing propaganda going back decades: that feminism, socialism and environmentalism will collapse western civilisation. No my friends aren’t Nazis but they seem awfully eager to forward 4chan memes without a moment’s thought nor even a hint of shame each time they are debunked, whereas I must always have carefully researched and referenced the bleedin’ obvious. Then one of them will call me a “socialist” and everyone laughs and moves on.
      That’s how it appears to someone who talks with reasonable people as opposed to the absolutely ruthless zero-sum types I work with who just call me a communist without bothering with all the chit-chat first.

      1. deluded

        … all that waffle just to say that farmers and businessmen alike feel threatened by environmentalism.

        1. The Great Wall of Gammon

          People, as an old teacher of mine used to say, are stupid. Also, people, in the large, don’t really get macro. Hence FFG, SinnFein, 4chan, antivaxxers, Trump, Brexit, our impending doom as a species as well as our planets demise and most life on it.

          It the roaches are in trouble, well, we’re buggered really.

          1. rotide

            Just a quick note. Nothing we do will threaten the actual planet, just life on it.

            (There is a tiny infitesmial chance that some as yet theoretical KHC experiments have the chance to end the universe as we know it but that would be all of reality and not just the planet, so basically the planet alone is safe from whatever we do.)

          2. Janet, I ate my avatar

            pity the poor u fortunate life forms who had to share it with us lot

    2. f_lawless

      https://twitter.com/JKSteinberger/status/1125654578198974464
      I think we all have a personal duty to live more environmentally conscious lifestyles although at the same time I feel that proposed solutions that tend put the focus on actors lower down the hierarchy are not getting it right.

      This is an interesting thread by Julia Steinberger, a professor of social ecology and social economics:

      ‘In climate change, we talk about emissions all day long, but rarely name specific companies or technologies. The Paris Agreement doesn’t even mention the term “fossil fuels”: that’s how far our deliberate “speak no evil” mentality goes.

      Yes, there was the one report naming the companies responsible for emissions. But why aren’t these companies named by our politicians and governments? Why aren’t we actively, daily, loudly, on TV & radio, figuring out how to put them out of business?

      There is a misconception at the heart of how we understand economics. We see it in neoclassical terms through a flat, horizontal, market surface, where consumers & producers meet on an equal/equilibrium footing. Change demand and you’ll change supply is the mantra.

      Well, that’s funfair distortion of the real economy. The real economy is vertical, driven by specific industries and their supply chains, with vastly unequal power relations between consumers and producers along each of these.

      We won’t be able to halt climate breakdown or ecocide without naming & shaming the specific companies, supply chains and products/technologies that are causing the disasters. This is why the “but climate change isn’t a compelling story!” excuse for media silence never had any credibility. It’s not “just” about science: it’s about good & evil, about people & personalities, about culture & civilization & everything we do. It’s not a hard story to tell in a myriad of fascinating and compelling ways.

      But it IS about the producing industries at the heart of our economies – our Moloch markets. This is the problem: people in the media, like scientists and politicians, are afraid to name and shame the actual culprits, because these culprits are so central & powerful.

      So we protect them by our silence. We use indirect terms like emissions, demand, supply, when we should be talking about ExxonMobil, BP, Shell, Total etc and their relation to utility industries, to automotive industries, to corrupting politicians and public figures..’ (it goes on..)

      https://twitter.com/JKSteinberger/status/1125654578198974464

  6. martco

    been left speechless on this broadband nonsense.

    reminds me of that episode of IT Crowd where Roy & Maurice attempt to prank Jen with the black box which is THE internet only for the caper to backfire as everyone actually buys into it.

    anyone who has done even the most basic network deployment work knows it’s a pipedream….or alternatively a scam.

    nobody believes this muck. so the question is – are we witnessing the last days at Versailles?

    or what’s REALLY the scam here?

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Well, the big mans communications business has gone belly up in the Phillipines. The coffers need replenishing. Who better to do it but FG, with our money?
      This is the big successful businessman. But that isn’t true. The only success is the ability to constantly go to the irish taxpayers well. And then blow the lot. Business success isn’t his forte.

      1. eoin

        Deja vu?

        May 1996 FG government awards second mobile phone licence to Denis O’Brien
        March 2011 €100 million Tribunal concludes Denis O’Brien gave money and benefits of €1m to the FG minister who awarded the contract
        April 2012 State-owned Anglo sells Siteserv to Denis O’Brien in deeply shady circumstances
        June 2015 FG government establishes Siteserv Commission to investigate sale of Siteserv to Denis O’Brien, it extends the date for the Commission five times and now says the Commission will cost €100 million
        May 2019 FG to award €3 billion contract (it was €500m six months ago) to consortium which includes Denis O’Brien’s Siteserv

      1. martco

        one of the best episodes for sure :)
        also the real men/football one & gay the musical…hard to choose…and sometimes like this affair it’s life imitating art yet again lol

        but regarding this broadband horsesht…
        – it’s not commercially attractive (which is why it’s -ahem- not commercially attractive)
        – which even at that would in today’s t€rms would be astonishing money, you can double that €3 Bil
        – it’s a technical nightmare & nothing like as “simple” as rural electrification & near practical wise impossible to deliver

        what I’m wondering is this – why is the country being held ransom to one individual ropey businessman? where’s the REAL beef there, why him & so obviously him given the past happenings? Is he FG’s only cash cow? If HE fails so does FG? does he own FG?

        I really don’t get the beholden relationship here, so so many examples of things being engineered to benefit one person’s business (& no doubt personal) interests?

        1. Otis Blue

          While I think that’s true for sure and the real issue may well be a question of magnitude, never underestimate the crass ineptitude and general cluelessness of our political class. Note how the permanent Government i..e senior civil servants are busy covering their ass on the decision because the know what’s coming. The Government badly need to deliver something to Rural Ireland and they think this is it. It assuredly isn’t. The problems run far deeper and FG haven’t a clue as to what’s really needed.

          Bear in mind that Eir cherrypicked over 300,000 of households from the scheme which renders the viability of the remaining NBP highly dubious. My understanding is that the take up rate by households is no more than 20% at best. Anyone care to predict what the take up rate will be for the Dinnyband?

          Bear in mind also, that publically at least, Dinny only surfaced in the bid late in the day when only one bidder remained in the process. A benign view would be that he spotted the opportunity and went for it and there wasn’t a damn thing FG would do about it. He has em by the balls.

          Just watch it all play out now. It will be fun from afar. Ruinously expensive too.

  7. eoin

    Don’t mess with Miriam O’Callaghan! She’s suing nearly everyone in the former Yugoslavia about the Facebook fake ads and smears.

    FACEBOOK IRELAND LTD
    And [Family Name, First Name]
    GARCEVIC MICO
    DOMINICS JACK
    KNEZIC MILIC
    RADOVIC MILJAN
    PRIJOVIC MARKO
    IVANOVIC MARKO
    NIEZEN SAL
    KRALJ NEMANJA
    TOUBAN JENNA
    WYKOBHH HOPHE
    VIERA WILLIAM
    KCI PROTINA
    JOKIC ISAK
    LAZOVIC TIKI
    CEMOVIC ALEKSANDAR
    MUN JAMES
    UROSEVIC SEKA
    LICINA RAIF
    JOHN DOE 1 [USER NAME CHRISTINA FELDINE MARKETING]
    JOHN DOE 2 [USER NAME DEAN HART]
    JOHN DOE 3 [USER NAME DUSAN DJASIC]
    JOHN DOE 4 [USER NAME SAVO DIGITAL]
    JOHN DOE 5 [USER NAME GRACIE SELIN]
    JOHN DOE 6 [USER NAME DANNY TANK]
    JOHN DOE 7 [USER NAME JOVAN DJASIC]
    JOHN DOE 8 [USER NAME KARA MURPHY]
    JOHN DOE 9 [USER NAME MARGARITA MORGAN SALES]
    JOHN DOE 10 [USER NAME MORGAN HART]
    JOHN DOE 11 [USER NAME KAI BAKER DIGITAL]
    JOHN DOE 12 [USER NAME LURA SAXON]
    JOHN DOE 13 [USER NAME EMILY MANGANO]
    JOHN DOE 14 [USER NAME MELANIE MC CABE]
    JOHN DOE 15 [USER NAME ELLA COLBERT]
    JOHN DOE 16 [USER NAME KELLY YOUNG]
    JOHN DOE 17 [USER NAME OLJA MARKETING]
    JOHN DOE 18 [USER NAME KARA MURPHY MARKETING]
    JOHN DOE 19 [USER NAME KARA M]
    JOHN DOE 20 [USER NAME LINDA SHOPE]
    JOHN DOE 21 [USER NAME LILIANA PEEK]
    JOHN DOE 22 [USER NAME OLJA DIGITAL]
    JOHN DOE 23 [USER NAME LAR Y]
    JOHN DOE 24 [USER NAME STEVEN JESSE]
    JOHN DOE 25 [USER NAME ANTHONY G]
    JOHN DOE 26 [USER NAME LINCE MOON]
    JOHN DOE 27 [USER NAME YOLANDA KING]
    JOHN DOE 28 [USER NAME LISA VALENCIA SALES]
    JOHN DOE 29 [USER NAME ALEKSA CO]
    JOHN DOE 30 [USER NAME CARLOS PHIPPIPS]
    JOHN DOE 31 [USER NAME PAUL THOMA]
    JOHN DOE 32 [USER NAME DJORDJE JSASIC]
    JOHN DOE 33 [USER NAME DUSAN DJ]

      1. eoin

        Put it this way Millie, I’m doing far better than that John Doe lad, that’s for sure! I just thought it was interesting to list out who Miriam is (now) suing about the fake Facebook cream ads and the fake claims about Miriam leaving RTE, the list is in the public domain but hasn’t been detailed in the media. By the sounds of them, they’re from the Yugoslav area. Apparently, there’s a queue of Irish celebs waiting to see how Miriam gets on in the High Court before they take similar action. Wouldn’t want to be in John Doe’s shoes, no sireee!

  8. eoin

    Anyone else looking at the headlines in the British and Irish version of British papers and wondering is it really a boy, or is it a boy without a winkle?

  9. eoin

    Just as FG is about to proceed with giving €3 billion of our money to a consortium led by a US investment firm, which includes Denis O’Brien’s Siteserv, the Times Ireland today reports that a report by the public accounts committee which may be published later this week, is highly critical of FG’s decision to extend lucrative contracts for the provision of broadband to certain cities (the MAN contracts).

    “There was a lack of transparency regarding the decision to extend the concessionary contracts for the operation of the metropolitan area networks”

    1. Otis Blue

      Nice one.

      Enet operated the MAN contracts which cannot be seen as a success by any measure. The Irish Strategic Infrastructure Fund (ISIF) otherwise known as the taxpayer recently invested a shedload in ENET, which has now been rolled in Granahan McCourt the sole bidder for the Dinnyband programme.

      https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/state-backed-fund-to-buy-78-of-enet-1.3167795

      “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”

  10. eoin

    Ex-FG PR people are having conniptions in some of today’s papers about people reminding FG MEP hopefuls about FG policy on Ireland’s neutrality and participation in EU defence.

    This is what the four FG MEPs said last year. So, connipt away Lucinda!

    “Amending Ireland’s ‘Triple Lock’ system; Supporting the emerging EU Defence Union; Redefining neutrality; Developing a National Security Council; Creating a Central Intelligence Unit; Spending more on defence both current and capital; Developing Ireland’s defence industry; Assessing the implications of Brexit for our security and defence policy; Continuing our strong commitment to peacekeeping and crisis management operations; and Establishing a cohesive National Cyber Security Strategy.”

    https://www.eppgroup.eu/how-we-make-it-happen/with-eu-countries/ireland/news/time-for-debate-on-security-and-defence

  11. johnny

    Any premier league fans know what DOB paid for this ?
    “C&W Communications (“C&W”) and Digicel Group announced that their new sports broadcasting joint venture, Caribbean Premier Sports Limited (CPSL), has won the exclusive rights to broadcast Premier League football in the Caribbean for the three seasons 2019/20 to 2021/22, which includes every match broadcast LIVE, via streaming and on-demand.”
    http://www.loopslu.com/content/cw-digicel-awarded-joint-rights-premier-league-3

    1. eoin

      Have C&W forgiven DOB for paying for the hacking of records relating to their former Caribbean inhouse senior counsel, Nick Cooper, Nick being one of the INM 19.

      1. johnny

        Not sure if this was only bid-DOB does appear partial to one bid scenarios, little unusual they teamed up, can’t imagine the league trilled with no competition.
        “Cable & Wireless Communications Plc (CWC) today announced that it has won the exclusive rights to broadcast live, all 380 matches per season of the Premier League across 32 Caribbean countries from 2016/17 to 2018/19. ”
        http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/FLOW-secures-exclusive-Premier-League-football-rights

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