“That Would Mean Checks On Their Side Of The Border At Some Point”

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar speaking to Virgin Media One’s Gavan Reilly earlier today.

Gavan Reilly

29 thoughts on ““That Would Mean Checks On Their Side Of The Border At Some Point”

  1. eoin

    “But once you start talking about checks anywhere near the Border, people will start delving into that and all of a sudden we’ll be the Government that reintroduced a physical border on the island of Ireland”

    Simon Coveney to Shane Ross, 15 January 2019, inadvertently picked up on reporters microphone

  2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    The NI only backstop is looking more likely than ever. That will make it easier for the soon to be majority who favour unification to vote that way. This stuffing around with the six county statelet for the last 100 years has been a complete shambles.

      1. Kolmo

        It’s an economic basket-case because of partition, too small to maintain itself, the logical approach is dissolution of the semi-dissolved border, keep all of Ireland within the EU, some unionists will threaten apocalyptic nonsense having to be equal partners with the rest of us, this loud objection will soon evaporate when they see the folly of the absolute fairground scam that is Brexit. There is nothing special about unionists/loyalists that places their needs and fears above the rest of us, the majority of their genuinely and strongly felt concerns about a UI are just not valid anymore.

  3. Hank

    The fact of the matter is that it’s IRELAND that will very rapidly need to get a deal/arrangement with the UK as soon as they leave. Otherwise it will mean the price of everything will balloon by 50-70% overnight and a massacre of small & medium business. So Leo et al would want to have a think about that.

    Customs & Excise rang me this morning and told me to immediately get on top of my BREXIT planning. A personal call from Customs & Excise (holy shoite!!)
    I bring in between €50,000 and €80,000 of product from the UK a year which I use in manufacture and wholesale. With WTO tariffs that would mean me up front paying and additional 14% (based on the product I import).
    At first the official from Customs & Excise told me I’d also upfront pay the VAT (at the moment UK to Ireland imports work on VAT delayed ie. you dont pay the English VAT but pay Revenue the Irish rate of VAT on the product when you send your return). I asked would that be at the English rate of 20% or the Irish rate of 23%, who would I pay it to and would I get a rebate. He didn’t know so had to go off and check. He then told me there was a new system coming where you’d pay the VAT at the end of the year but Revenue hadn’t announced it yet. I suspected he didn’t have a notion what he was talking about.
    If he was right about front loading the VAT and the tariff that would mean the €50,000 of product imported would now cost me somewhere between 34% and 37% more straight away. That’s approx. €68,500. And that hasn’t factored in just how long it will take for the product to arrive and indeed the cost of delivery. At the moment I can get product next day from the UK. After BREXIT what will that be a week, a month, 3 months?? no one can answer that.
    The bottom line is perhaps some business have the cashflow to cover the 30-40% increase but a whole pile wont. No business will be able to absorb that type of increase so it will be passed on to the consumer who will end up having 50-70% on the cost of everything you currently buy.

    Now that’s what Varadkar and Coveney need to focus on rather than playing the Billy big baws with our next door neighbours.

    1. Paddy

      Hear hear! I too am a genuine Irish feller with no agenda and I say the sooner Prime Minister Vradker stops these silly European notions the better. It’s jolly well about time we Irish took Britain’s hand and joined her brave charge up and out of the trenches to glory! HUZZAH! I mean BEGORRA

        1. Paddy

          Fair cop guv’nor. ‘Ow I wish I was a genuine Oirish feller like yourself just telling it like it is on BREXIT

    2. some old queen

      So Hank- Customs & Excise rang you to tell you to get on top of your Brexit planning except they couldn’t actually explain to you what that means?

      That sounds about right- the reason they want to appear proactive is so that they can say ‘I told you so’ once the proverbial hits the fan. Classic state sector ‘cover your posterior at all costs’.

      The truth is- no one knows it Brexit will even happen let alone under what terms.

    3. GiggidyGoo

      You need to set up a deferred payment account. If you’re importing 50k per annum that’s 4k per month. A deferred payment account means you dont pay the Vat or duty until the end of the month (I think). Which gives you time to sell and have the vat and duty in your bank in time. Over time it would become easier.
      I think you may have been contacted by one of the new recruits who hasn’t a handle on it himself yet.

      1. some old queen

        How can anyone have a handle on it when they don’t know what is going to happen? Look at what has occurred in Britain in the past two weeks alone. The place is a mad house- the queen’s corgis would have made a better job of it.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Yep, but you have to have the facilities in place – even if they end up not being used. and they don’t cost a lot to do. The one cost that people are missing is the customs clearance charges from agents. That will be anything from €45 to €75 I’d think per entry up to 3or 4tariff codes, and additional €10 or so for additional codes on the same entry.

          So a few things to get organized, and they can be done very quickly.

          a) Get an Authorised Economic Operator number. Not exactly necessary, but will speed up clearance. From Revenue
          b) Get an EORI – Economic Operators Registration Number This is needed. Takes a couple of days to get by applying online from Revenue
          c) Get a Trader Account Number from Revenue. TAN. This allows you to defer payment of duty and tax.

          Important that your suppliers show the proper description of goods. They must also show a gross and net weight. They should also quote a tariff code number. All of those on the invoice if possible.

          Set it up properly now, and there will be no headaches

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Meant to say – hard or soft brexit, sometime down the line there will be customs clearance actions to be done regardless. The UK will be a third country. Like Switzerland, customs clearance still has to be done.

          2. V

            Sorry
            I’ve lost track here today
            Being on the road etc, so haven’t followed anything really from start to finish

            So who am I now Forty Coats?

            Btw
            This harrassment started back in June July 2018
            I think it’s fair enough to say I’ve tolerated enough

            Good luck to yis

  4. Pip

    Know someone who has a family member working at a fairly high level in BMW’s UK HQ.
    They haven’t a clue – nothing to go on – just waiting.
    Grim.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        The ones newly employed, if they end up not being needed, will be redeployed into other government jobs. Happened when customs disappeared originally.

  5. bisted

    …yawn…please…it’s not going to happen…do you remember when Nigel Farage declared the referendum leave result ‘independence day’…I’m declaring the day when the revoke letter is sent to Mr Tusk as ‘I told you so’ day…

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