‘Earth Summit’, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 1992.
WarrenP writes:
Same script, different decade.
Another daughter of the elite scolding us….
Earlier: Kevin Higgins: A Climate Of Mistrust
Meanwhile…
"Climate change is a hoax led by the United Nations so that it can end democracy and impose authoritarian rule".
Climate change a UN-led ruse, says Tony Abbott's business adviser Maurice Newman https://t.co/oNsVmdXpCO via @smh
— Fiona Marie Flanagan (@fionamflanagan1) September 30, 2019
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Finally, some balance in BS editorial content.
Finally, some balance in BS editorial content.
Same script, different decade.
haha look how long we’ve been ignoring warnings about climate change
Bullies always act in the same way.
This video really casts doubt on the elite’s credibility with regard to climate change – and supports theories of the somewhat obvious attempts they make to manipulate the masses.
Eerily similar. Deserves to go viral.
hahaha
you’re gas altogether
Grets’s relations own a publishing company ive herd and I guess will be trying to sell the world her story next year..
It’s already written, in Swedish.
Translations due later this year.
…Swedish one published before the infamy.
It’s nice to know that we were every bit as good at ignoring the adults of the future in favour of our own interests back in 1992.
They should be encouraged by the fact that Miss Suzuki’s father managed to sell no less than 50 children’s books as well as “Severn: a Manual for Activists.”
Not only did Suzuki have his own TV show, but the timing of Severn’s appearance at the UN is interesting – 1992 was the year of the Clintons.
I read a great article in the NY Post this morning about Hillary. She must be the worst loser in history. For a constitutional lawyer who professedly advocates democracy, she doesn’t seem to give either very much value.
More on Severn’s father, who has been a leading media figure in Canada since the 1960s:-
“During global warming apex, Suzuki aimed his campaign at children. “Climate change has forced Santa to pack up his sleigh and find a new home,” he told shocked and distraught children on frequent television plugs claiming to be reporting live from the North Pole, “where Santa will live?” Donations for “Santa” were directed to the David Suzuki Foundation where lots of books could be purchased. In fact, the foundation offers eight innovative ways in which donors can provide—via your will is one of them.”
Link at
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/david-suzuki-and-qawho-conned-who/
Be smart guys. Research. The internet makes the world a village. Judge people as you would if they lived in the same one. Don’t be impressed by bells and whistles and status. Wake up.
Another MKU victim playing the role of “hero”.
So sad you continue to encourage this.
You have no morality; only agenda
‘bit like yerself
So the CEOs and shareholders of companies producing vast amounts of carbon and the heads of state who aren’t taking climate change seriously are not the elite?
Elite are apparently people with higher morals.
Oh, and Suzuki has a net worth of 25 million dollars. Not bad for a man whose family were expelled from Japan during WW2 and who has spent his life as an environmentalist.
The campaign mentioned above was called: “Give Money or Santa Gets It.” Nice.
Mmm and tell me, where can I purchase this clean and plentiful coal and oil?
Not sure how this is relevant
Not sure how it’s relevant but I’d be curious to know how David Suzuki was born a third generation immigrant in Canada in 1936 to a family that was “expelled from Japan during WW2”.
hahahahahaha that’s brilliant
The highest temperature ever recorded in Ireland was 33.3 °C at Kilkenny Castle, on 26 June 1887. The lowest temperature was -19.1 °C at Markree Castle on 16 January 1881.
I bet the town criers were scaring the bejaysus out of the locals with fearful warnings.
Climate isn’t the same as weather and thermometers weren’t even reliable back then.
so we’re all climate-change deniers now?
*chucks another tyre on the bonfire*
A teenage girl in 1992 and a teenage girl in 2019, that’s two teenage girls speaking up about climate change iat the opposite ends of three decades, oh my God, will they ever let up?
Can Santa live at your gaff?
Yes, Virbodgerinia, there is a Santa living in everyone’s gaff.
I’m struggling to under stand the point of this post. If you have a criticism to make, make it. This sniping from the sidelines; posting tweets from random twitter non-entities, bereft of actual substance or point of view, is beyond tiresome at this stage.
You’re entitled to post whatever you like of course, but this sort of nonsense does the site a disservice. You’ve prepared plenty of content from the Disclosures Tribunal and you have a significant archive of information. You are a capable researcher. Why not on this issue?
Ciuncainteach, wherever you stand on the science, the use of teenagers in this manner by adults who should know better is disgusting and very creepy.
To then pretend that they are not carefully stage managed, scripted and acted performances insults everyone.
As you can see, it’s an old tactic. That video above is nearly 30 years old. This child (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y) was used to drum up support ahead of Gulf War 1 saying Iraqis were taking Kuwaiti babies out of their incubators. She was, if I recall, a daughter of a Kuwaiti general and everything she said was proven false.
You know what are even older tactics? Nasty insinuations, ad hominim attacks and false equivalences. Your stance on the science is irrelevant, but these teenagers arguing for action in response to climate change is the same as as war-mongering propaganda lies? Classy, Bodge. Now post that picture of the little Nazi girl with ringlets, that’ll prove Greta’s the real fascist.
The children are scripted. We are watching a performance. And the adults should be ashamed of themselves.
But Nigel said you were doing much more than that, and you know…. If Nigel interprets, then it becomes a fact.
* laughs hysterically *
Lolol shock horror, these teenagers speaking forcefully and decisively 30 years apart on climate change are working from scripts! The very idea!
Every teenager with the moral clarity to call out elite inaction in the face of climate change should speak 100% off the cuff, like David Niven with a “Nature” subscription. Christ alive.
What in the name of the jew jaysus does what some kid said on the first Gulf War 30 years ago, have to do with what some other kid is saying on completely unrelated topic today?
To demonstrate that it is a very old tactic used to persuade using emotional blackmail and deployed to avoid scrutiny (How could you criticise the little childer, you big bully). The dissonance here by you and Nigel is embarrassing.
Shame on you adults, children should be unseen and unheard.
No Bodger, it’s a completely unjustified false equivalence you are using to attack a teenage environmental activist. When you start from the position that what she’s actually trying to acheive doesn’t matter, you can say pretty much anything about her you want.
So in this analogy, who are the babies and what are the incubators? What is your point? Young women have been proven to lie in the past, so don’t believe young women? Man made climate change is a lie? Who would you prefer be the face of this movement? Greta represents the youth of the world. It kind of has to be a young person, it’s the while point , but you cant win because you’ll be accused of being a plant or a poor girl who is being abused. Which I don’t believe she is. She’s worked up, simple as that! do you know any 16 year old girls? Kids get worked up over nothing and they are fine afterwards. Greta is actually getting worked up over important issues, she is right and she is doing the right thing. All the faux concern from middle aged and boomer media personalities? they are the real liars . they only care about $$$ and don’t want their bottom line affected. They raise concern over a little girl that they just don’t like and spread lies about the general public (who they also don’t like) getting hit with fake green taxes. Trying to scare ordinary people into thinking they will lose the precious $$€€€£££ we were all raised to have a fondness for. But how much is enough? A capitalist (Greta’s true enemy) believes it is never enough. Screw the environment. Money is all that matters. The already wealthy people out there with too much to lose cant have talk of disincentives for polluting so they grasp at any pathetic argument and accuse the opposition of doing the same. If you don’t believe in man made climate change then fine. your an idiot and Grata should be of no concern to you. , but this fake “I’m an environmentalist” but “poor Greta, I’m soooooo concerned for her. honestly ” is bare face lying . You just don’t care about the environment and money is more important to you.
Every media organisation agrees with you. Every celebrity/shill agrees with you. Every political party agrees with you.
I think it’s a total scam but I am in a minority even among people working for Broadsheet.
You should really be very happy the way things are going. It’s all working out beautifully. Why all the hostility toward one dissenter?
Uh-oh guys, better delete this post, in case people think that this child with a “Beep 4 Repeal” sign is evidence of a very old tactic being used on this very website to persuade using emotional blackmail and deployed to avoid scrutiny
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/05/25/meanwhile-on-repeal-island/
That’s a ridiculous false equivalency. Drumming up support for war vs stating facts on climate change.
But sure look, next month is when all the QAnon stuff is proven correct, right Bodger? I’ll be crawling back to tell you you were right all along any day now.
“Every media organisation agrees with you. Every celebrity/shill agrees with you. Every political party agrees with you.
I think it’s a total scam but I am in a minority even among people working for Broadsheet.
You should really be very happy the way things are going. It’s all working out beautifully. Why all the hostility toward one dissenter?”
LOL. Yeah, delighted that the scientists that GT wants us to look to believe that we might have irreparably harmed the planet we’re living on. Thrilled to bits.
“It’s all working out beautifully.” Parody of elite attitudes to climate change, in which the impacts will only be felt by future generations and the poor; it’s just a game to them.
You’ll get your carbon tax without much opposition is my point. Nobody gives a monkeys what I think except you Doomsdayers. You all should ‘cool down’.
Really Bodger, have there been no media organisations/shills/political parties that don’t agree with her or find ways to criticise or attack her or reprimand her or her parents? At all? Not even in the daily Broadsheet paper posts? Ridiculous. Not to mention all the pleasant people online who take issue with her in various charming ways. You’re hardly a dissenter, since the fundamental political and economic staus quo is still very much against meaningful action on climate change. You’re throughly establishment in that regard.
It’s funny, between ‘doomsdayers’ and ‘you’ll get your carbon tax,’ it’s still unclear whether you’re having a hissy fit over one policy (of many,) or the fundamental science of climate change.
Unlike these child actors, I am old enough to remember when the ice age was coming. This is about about money not science.
https://youtu.be/ei-_SXLMMfo
Scam mk1.
Yes, I’m old to remember it, too, and to remember it being discredited and forgotten except when climate change deniers want to pretend that science disporvong a theory and science proving a theory are the same thing.
Now she’s a child actor, is she? So she’s pretending? Typically vague nonsense and accusations.
It was a scam than, its a scam now.
Kids used as props in a scam is as old as dirt.
Yeah, but you think Sandy Hook was a scam but Trump is honest. You decalre everything a scam as a matter of routine. Unless it’s Trump-related.
Digression, oh so typical of Nigel.
Idiot pumps Russia gate conspiracy for two years and than accuses someone else of same.
Try harder.
I love how you add precisely nothing to this entire debate. You seem to enjoy repeating the words of others in a strange reiteration of something that’s already been stated.
Ditto.
I can at least count my wit and charm, something I sincerely doubt you lack (along with a brain, but let’s leave that topic for another day, my dear scarecrow) as well as being able to form my own opinions into a coherent point, again something I doubt you are actually capable of seeing as we’ve not seen you do anything beyond what amounts to:
“Haha good one, Bodger”.
Loads of smears.
Superior commenting indeed.
Every conversation with you is a digression, MoF, if rarely actually a conversation.
Digression by you because you’re all out.
I didn’t make you digress.
So you’re saying I put the Man on Fire… out?
Nigel further digresses..
White flag central.
I’m glad that you articulated your point more clearly. Whether this is an exploitative practice, and what impacts it could have on young people is definitely worth discussion.
Perhaps you might consider this approach in future posts about this topic so that people won’t unfairly impugn your motives?
Ditto.
I guess that, conspiracy theory-wise, climate change denial was the next logical editorial slant for Broadsheet.
Oh now maybe they’re not denying climate change, maybe they just think it’s a tool of the elite to control the masses and anyone who thinks we should do something about it is a stooge or a dupe.
They’ll be back to being pro-Gemma before we know it.
Wow. Et tu, Daisy?
Don’t be surprised Bodger.
The climate has improved so much since 1992. Kids eh.
Love your update. A list of random unsourced predictions in reply to someone who doesn’t understand what climate change actually means. And some people have the cheek to suggest that Greta doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
Also it’s very weird to see the publisher of Broadsheet criticise anyone for their apparent “elite” credentials.
What is that supposed to mean, in fairness.
Being a child of the “elite” is a problem when it’s GT advocating for action against climate change; it is not a problem when the publisher of Broadsheet claims her advocacy to be a fraud.
We were told (by her supporters) that Greta was just a regular Stockholm schoolgirl. Then we discover her background and the fact she has a full-time chaperone from Bono’s One organisation.
The girl above tells us that she and her friends raised the air fare to go to a UN conference (not paid by her millionaire climate activist dad, no way).
It’s all baloney.
So you’re not a climate changer denier then?
I don’t see climate change denial in his comments or post.
Nor am i, in case you ask.
You know, it’s not very clear when wading through that verbose pissing contest what the editorial stance on this topic is.
Hence my question.
The demonization of Greta is a whole other topic that I have neither the time or energy to go into with anyone. Whatever the truth, she has my sympathy.
She does, which is of course, fine. But the group’s she speaks on behalf of, like Climate Justice Now and their demanda for reparations…. nope.
Using kids as props.
Old as muck.
And cowardly.
Well I’m afraid that, given the publisher of Broadsheet is a member of the elite, I cannot believe anything said here about climate change. I will instead listen to the scientists that GT directs us towards. Unless they’re members of the elite too? This being the only standard for truth now.
She’s a representative of and spokes person for Climate Justice Now.
Are you ready to start paying the reparations that they demand you pay?
In what sense is she not a regular Stockholm schoolgirl? Her activist parents? Growing up in an activist household which inspired her own activism? Her campaign is supervised and supported by adults who watch out for her and help her? She’d literally need to float across water to qualify for the level of saintliness you demand.
Also LOL at anyone who ever thought Greta was a “regular” schoolgirl. She is obviously exceptional, and has always been. Doesn’t make her wrong.
The adults using her are the frauds.
Again, in what sense is there any fraud being perpetrated here? Do you think she doesn’t mean what she says? Do you think she should be travelling the world and speaking at events without adult supervision and support and the permission of her parents? There are other children aroujd the world taking the role of activists, are they all frauds or is only the one who has risen to this level of prominenece? Do children have no stake in the future?
Bodger, did you get the Luisa Neubaur connection from the same source that says Greta is a Soros agent?
https://thepatriotwatchdog.com/wow-official-escort-for-16-year-old-global-warming-expert-greta-thunberg-exposed-as-george-soros-plant/
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/09/greta-thunberg-georges-soros-famille.jpg?resize=768,320
Whatever about climate change, no one should trust Snopes.
Lol, +1 Bodger.
Daisy, not for the first time, citing shill fact checking site snopes.
Snopes? Ah hear… really….
Wow, Bodger, MOF AND Clampers are all down on Snopes, who’d’a thunk?
And you’re up on Snopes…. LOL!
Who’d have thunk that?
Well, those u listed, and anyone who pays attention really :)
hey bodge, if you don’t like the message delivered by a teenage girl, i’m sure they can find a delivery method that works for you.
The kids are alright. The adults are cynical, cunning, pooheads.
Hey look at me y’all I’m up on Snopes!
It’s very decent of you not to baselessly attack a teenage girl and to confine your baseless attacks to her friends and her family and her message and her activism and everything she does and everything she says. Your conscience is clear.
In what respect is the publisher of Broadsheet a member of the global elite, hangin’ out with Bono and Princess Caroline’s kids? Seriously. Inquiring minds would really like to know.
You said it best yourself:
Be smart [guy]. Research…Don’t be impressed by bells and whistles and status.
Rest assured, I read all the available material on all contributors to this site, before I ever commented on it, and it fully confirms the hairshirt assertion. I see no private jets, no fancy invitations, and no Eurovision performances in the past of any regular contributor to this site. What I see is a very sincere and decent team led by a very sincere and decent man. Someone really has to say it. It’s about time. Treat Bodger and his contributions with the respect they deserve.
You’ve clearly never read my work then.
Sheeple?
Also, that little girl above started her climate change protests at nine. Nine. Do you really think that it was unprompted? The fact that the UN were so ready to use her as a figurehead does not inspire confidence in Greta’s position being her own unscripted one.
Can I ask you? Do you above get active pleasure from coming on a site and putting down the views of one of its contributors, without even considering or researching them? Do you ever think for yourselves or research for yourselves? Do you understand spin and how it is used? If not, you are only living a half life and are at the mercy of smarter people far less scrupulous than those running Broadsheet. Things will never improve until people question things. And yet you come to this site every single day, which indicates some sort of yearning to consider things more deeply, at least on the part of the non-shills. A lesser person than Bodger would find it all quite amusing. It’s a testament to his sincerity and care for his readers that he instead finds your response depressing and sad.
Here White Dove, you’re not….Bodger by any chance at all are you?
Pat, Not me and not from Broadsheet. I like his/her style though.
Careful they might be a left-wing plant to make you look silly.
Like Elizabeth Warren.
Or Hitler.
Elizabeth Warren voted for all the illegal wars for the past two decades.
Good analogy.
Oh those cunning lefties!
To the right of Trump.
Poor ole Trump.
Yea poor Trump, cruising to a second term..
If the Republicans can suppress enough votes it’ll be a doddle!
Hear, hear, Bodger.
Let’s have more of White Dove.
As someone who had to endure Tony Abbott as PM, my advice is to ignore everything he says or presume the opposite is true. He is such a psychopath.
Delete this. Bizarre that Broadsheet is sharing climate change denial. Conspiracy theory is not news.
First time poster captain, grandstanding from the off..
lolwut I’ve been irregularly posting using this name and email for years. Even if you were slightly correct, it doesn’t change the fact that Bodger is posting bizarre conspiracy theory that should be deleted.
Thanks, I know I’m correct.
Not under “Capt. McAllister” you haven’t…. unless all your posts have been deleted.
I didn’t see you’d changed the update. We’re back on the Infowars UN NWO ZOG style conspiracies, only this time they’ve faked up a massvie, decades-in-development scientific theory with thousands of scientists (but not the ones funded by oil companies) on board to bring it about. Such geniuses, these lizard people.
Anyone else get strange sorting of comments?
When comments are nested deeply like this, and everyone is replying to the 5-th level comment, I would expect to see them sorted by time, but it seems to sort them randomly…
It makes for confusing reading when we have a massive thread explosion like this. If you’re on the app, sometimes it’s a bit easier, or so I’ve found in my experience.
Bodger is loco. Adding climate denial to his long list of reprehensible beliefs.
Another “first time” commenter claiming to know Bodger..