This morning.

The Irish Times reports:

First-time buyers need to be earning nearly €100,000 a year to secure a mortgage for a new home in Dublin, a report by KBC Bank has indicated.

“The study found that the price of new homes purchased by first-time buyers has “virtually doubled” from about €200,000 to €380,000 since 2012. This has eroded affordability for first-time buyers, it said.

“A first-time buyer or a dual-income first-buyer household availing of a 90 per cent loan-to-mortgage would typically need an income of €98,000 to qualify, the report noted.”

First-time buyers need incomes of €100,000 to buy new homes in Dublin (Eoin Burke-Kennedy, The Irish Times)

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9 thoughts on “How Much?

  1. Andrew

    The non-engagement with this post is interesting. Do people not care about this anymore? Or just jaded maybe?

    1. V

      I care

      But the answer is more residential development, better planning, better public transport, and more relocation outside Urban areas

      Far too much labour in the Building Sector is engaged in Commercial Development, particularly in Dublin since it has an accommodation emergency that is far more drastic and likely to impinge on economic stability, than not having enough office space or hotel rooms.

      and far too little is coming onto the Residential Use market for the Owner Occupier
      And living outside Dublin Cork and other Urban centres is still not feasible enough to permit enough movement

      If people want to get serious about Residential Accommodation either as an owner occupier or as a tenant
      Build them
      and build them either in tandem with required infrastructure, like transport, schools, facilities, broadband etc, or with them already in place

      The last two governments have an awful lot to answer for here
      and I include eFFers in bundle btw

      The Banks and Credit Unions are crying out to get money out the door
      they just need the Borrowers

      1. Rob_G

        “… better planning, better public transport, and more relocation outside Urban areas

        – the two statements in bold are mutually exclusive; people moving outside urban areas might ease property prices, but good planning, it ain’t.

        1. V

          I don’t know if I would agree entirely with that Rob

          There are towns all over the Country boarded up and crying out for new residents
          Schools are losing teachers, Clubs can’t field a full team at any level
          and they’re only Kms from main motorway arteries
          or Railway stations with shONEtty services

          Better Planning yes, more ambitious and qualified planning definitely
          If we’re throwing 3 billion into Rural Broadband
          then why shouldn’t it be matched with a 3 Billion Rural redevelopment and regeneration strategy?

          Just saying
          I’m no expert

          1. Rob_G

            There are towns all over the Country boarded up and crying out for new residents” – ah well now, that’s different to what you said initially – country towns are still urban areas, and we should indeed be facilitating people moving to them.

            “If we’re throwing 3 billion into Rural Broadband
            then why shouldn’t it be matched with a 3 Billion Rural redevelopment and regeneration strategy?”

            – this is exactly why we shouldn’t be encouraging people to move to remote, badly-serviced areas: it’s setting the state up for inflated, inefficient spends on infrastructure for generations to come.

          2. Cian

            What exactly is a ” €3 Billion Rural redevelopment and regeneration strategy”?

            I know that there is a specific measurable outcome to the broadband rollout (x% of houses have broadband speeds of z MBs).

            What does yours actually mean? how would you decide where to redevelopment and regeneration? how would you spend the money? How do you prevent it being abused?

          3. V

            Like I said
            I’m no expert
            You’ll need a fella for all that

            And when I said Urban, I – silly me, meant Cities, ie Dublin Cork Limerick Galway etc
            I think the only way manage the Accommodation Crisis is to make relocation out of those City areas more attractive
            and for that you need to invest in better hardwear infrastructure

            What’s the point of delivering High Speed Broadband to Tipperary Town if the place is a ghost town ffs
            Bring the people back to Rural Ireland and Towns that formed Hinterlands for the larger well serviced – hospitals, collages, airports etc, Cities

            You asked a lot of questions there Cian
            How would I do this that and whatever you’re having yerselves
            Well
            Probably’d make a better fist of it than anyone FineGaeled State Boards/ Minister will Appoint set ups would get in

  2. maccers

    I don’t know what to say about it. If you are looking for a home, this is not news. If you are not in a position or don’t want to buy, it’s not really news either. I’m not jaded, just despairing.

    This is not a market problem as such, it is a social issue; and it requires medium to long term planning to address the lack of housing. But our politicians only care about the short term between elections. And claim they don’t want to interfere with the market. But the property market is completely different to social housing, and that is now distorted beyond recognition because of their inaction.

    I don’t know why anyone young stays in the this country anymore, we are eating our young and blaming them for all the problems.

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