I was 6 when these men were explaining that men are better at bottling up their emotions and that a women’s place is in the home, not our leading the country! pic.twitter.com/vNKnmS4kbg
— Finian 🧍🏽♀️..2m..🧍♂️ Murphy (@finianmurphy) November 11, 2020
1990.
Old school Dublin dudes share the wisdom that would leave many of them divorced, bitter and sleeping in their own clothes within a few short years.
Damn you, so-called equality.
Name those chauvinists, anyone?
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Rugby; the sport of kings.
1990
Finian, I turned 23
This was also the year I moved to Dublin
Five years after my leaving cert
And I promise ye
Lads on the street there were the very least of it
And those same natural instincts are still all around
They’re all just better mannered
And trained
But they’re all still there – well hidden, but still there
Btw. 1990, The year of the Double 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
Funny, David Quinn of Iona “Institute” fame who went to Uni in the late 80s has a very different view claiming there was no “sense of inequality” back in the day. Apparently it wasn’t all that bad: https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1284143534929522689?s=20
not to mention all the hoo haa about changing both
“the unmarried mother’s allowance” which btw was identical – to the pingín
as the “married man’s allowance”
to the Single Income Household Allowance
Imagine this
if I was a lone parent in 1990 I would have been taxed per “the unmarried mother’s allowance”
Sorry my point being
How could anyone say there was no sense of inequality
Shur twas there in our tax codes FFS
I did my leaving in ’85
The string of jobs I couldn’t apply to a lad doing the very same papers I did on the very same day could
And he can say no sense of inequality with a straight face
That just shows how ingrained and inbred it all is
Lads don’t even notice it
I knew a girl, about six mebbe seven months pregnant who tried to collect her leaving cert results
And the school refused to give them out to her, luckily she did the metric so was able to use those to get her CAO in
(Snail mail then lads)
Oddly enough she had twins, and is still with the Dad, they’d three more afair
And works as a teacher now herself
They’d never have denied him his LC results tho’
No I got that V. I think the fate of Ann Lovett told me all I needed to know about the double-standards of that time. Still, I can’t really believe such cruelty occurred TBH.
I’ll always remember my mam telling me how she had to leave her job in the Courts – a decent job she was well qualified for and had done for a good number of years – after she married because that was the law back then. Married women couldn’t work in the civil service.
Little known fact, apparently, that a woman’s brain turns into trifle after she says ‘I do’.
now I want trifle
Same with the bank, Millie. Apparently they lost the ability to add the halfpence to the pence after tripping up the aisle.
Librarian too, off you go you have a full time job looking after a man / child thing now you’re married sure
Well all we’re good for is making the tea and a good ride, Lilly, and we should be thanking them for it.
At least according to the gentlemen in that vid.
tea and a good ride…
I dont really like tea
This was 1990. Marriage bar was lifted in 1973.
But that didn’t really change a lot for women Andrew
not until they got around to establishing a formal approach to Maternity Leave and Maternity Leave Pay/ Benefits
Especially for Girls that weren’t married btw – sin sceal a whole lot of eile
The Marriage Bar lifted yet they persisted with “unmarried mothers” and “deserted wives”
as official titles and terms for another twenty years
As well as that – working Married Women had to apply to Revenue, , with permission from their Husbands to get a portion of the Household tax relief. Which was until the 90s – the Married Mans Allowance
My own mother, paid my fathers tax and hers from her own income for at least 15 years after the Marriage Bar got Barred
For years, she didn’t see over 85 % of her own earnings
Because he guzzled up all the relief available
She always swore that Charlie McCreevy was the best Fianna Failer ever
Jaysus V. 23 in 1990. Well, you’re overdosing on Palmolive then.
Fuppin hell!
Things changed a lot in a very short space of time eh?
By the time I was an adult in the mid 90’s, any of these opinions amongst my peers would have been embarrassing.
But I did have a very tough independent, Mammy though.
Great headline!
..but wow! Those men, my God! It’s like listening to something from the 60’s. Things have changed a lot.
I’d say those lads were the craic – and that they, and their bottled up emotions have all go on to great things
… good times
Fast forward to charger today. Heh heh heh.
in fairness….they are rugby players – not exactly renowned for intelligence
LOL – RTÉ were doing a Borat years before Borat was doing Borat.
:-)
RTE were doing nothing of the sort.Ireland was just doing a Kazakhstan before Kazakhstan was.
Not surprised TBH. This was era of the X-case.
Youth Defence at their height, now metamorphosed thanks to Decco Ganley and his shill McJerk into Grift Media. This is how one of the founders of Youth Defence and Grift Media, the creepy Niamh Ui Bhriain, spent the early 1990s: https://www.hotpress.com/opinion/i-was-a-member-of-youth-defence-10023271
Can you blame these “lads”?! Kind of mind-boggling.
I didn’t know you were into sports – the 100m hurdles is it? So many jumps to conclusions, so little time! Deh deh deh
Ha! Knew you couldn’t resist.
I’m like catnip.
One of those old-fashioned Shinnerbots, eh? Dreaming of the old days – armalite and a wack of the crozier?
What time are you clocking off from BS to go to “keep the country running”?
Always gets me.
I give you life!
Xxx
My very own personal stalker. How ingratiating. ROFL. Nice to know i’m living rent free in your head. Ha haaaa.
MME and Giggidy: get a bloody room you two and give us all some peace.
Always an excuse to bring this one out. https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=RDLS37SNYjg8w&v=LS37SNYjg8w
“I don’t know anything about the gold standard, but I do love little kittens” (specially for Charger)
Time to log off Giggidy. Plenty of time to stalk the comment fora in the wee hours.
Do you make your own sandwiches or does your Mammy or Daddy do it before you head out to, cough, “keep the country running while all you morons sleep”?
Before you go, give me a zinger..
Go on…
I’m catnip to you.
You just can’t help yourself.
There there there.
Now, now, now! ;-p
I recognise one of those lads.
It is 30 years ago. That’s a long, long time in a country like Ireland.
Is it the same one I wonder?
My earlier reply to ce was deleted by tptb
Tmi probably?
I know the first silly in the second video.
Recognise a couple of the others with him.
Sure when you’re floating in a gene pool that’s not very deep everyone in Ireland is related anyway
Ah, the old racist bigotry is never far away, is it, but it’s all just a larf, innit, guvnor?
Peevish little troll.
it must be awful to arrive in a place where everyone seems to be riding everyone… but nobody will ride you
You’re trying too hard Bro.
The inevitable result of hanging around Papi too long.
It’s looking a bit sad tbh.
Jeez – roll-eyes.
Don’t worry fat lad, loads of other people love your trolling and racism.
Just nobody here.
Bit of a larf, though, innit, eh?
A long time since 1990
+ 25 years Equal Marriage
+ 28 years Women’s Right Choose
Do you know what else was 28 years from 1990?
Joanne Hayes’ apology from the State
+ 29 years came her apology from the Gardai
And still waiting for her day in Court
revenge porn-bodger you promised:)
All jokes aside I’d have to wonder how many of those rugby lads knew someone who took their own lives due to that nonsense of ‘bottling it all up inside’.
I remember being at a funeral for someone who did in the early 90’s when I was in my late teens and the amount of people, mostly men, who were all wondering ‘why didn’t he speak to anyone’. Many would have been like the lads being interviewed in this clip, absolutely no sense of irony to them.
Rather depressing really.
Tory Boy on Grafton St. with the tie… he’s like a parody of a shares trader done by Chris Morris of Brass Eye/The Day Today…
At 40 seconds, telling a mother joke about his own mother? Could it be this fella? https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23451628/alan-lewis-irish-cricket-unknown-hero
Does look similar in fairness.
Is the first guy Tom Doorley?
Good call.
Former leading international rugger referee to boot.
Always did like the limelight.Was very whistley in a Nigel Owens sort of way.
After watching it a few times, I think most of these are taking the piss to be honest.
(i think its out context, appears related Mary Rob campaign,we should ask Sheikha Latifa bint Mohammed al-Maktoum..if Mary should have stayed home)
looks like just a kick about,but decent back line:)
Some sense being talked in there as well.
Unpopular as it may be amongst the yellow mattress brigade on here
Johnny and charger have found each other.
Oh happy days.
Best of luck boys, you’ll need it! Pip pip!
1983 was even better. Sure women can’t expect equal wages and them to be made outta Adams Rib. Marching song of the umteenth Panzer regiment on the radio – that’ll get the auld feet tappin ‘ – the DJ said.
I don’t know who they but if you’re looking for them I’d try Arbor Hill.
Zing!
wait till you get home
Funny Bodger
Even more so knowing that those same lads are in even more trouble at home tonight ( or whenever whose relevant who cops these videos)
Than they would have been back then
(*﹏*;)
Specially if they’re Daddys
Oh my
I imagine we’re going to be seeing a lot of updated YouTube/ TickTocks over the next while from these lads
To be fair I had a cursory glance, thought, the guy in the striped geánsai was the owner of this site, but dates don’t match, also further scrutiny leads me to believe, it’s not, in fact himself. (Although…)
now that you say it, shayna… could be an old cbc shirt. although I think its lansdowne.
Wanders F.C.
thank you, Johnny
should have known you’d know
Nah, it’s Lansdowne.
:)
u19’s what was then called mccoarry or mccorry cup team-hence the mis mathed kit from schools,SCT i hope, but no Irish schools or provisional kits so not landsdowne but wanders sly dig at Pat the chairman…hm-i don’t think its a ‘offcial’ training session….maybe just a few locals throwing the ball around
I think it was just a few years later UCD eventually granted women direct access to the debating podium.