One For The Team

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This afternoon.

Further to yesterday’s Liveline on RTÉ Radio One where host Joe Duffy berated Republic of Ireland forward Callum Robinson for not taking the jab…

…via Ewan MacKenna (full article at link below)

“This is not pub talk, it’s science,” howled Joe Duffy on Wednesday afternoon.

Thereafter, in a nonsensical hour about Callum Robinson who has had Covid twice, the conversation talked about how he wouldn’t get into Azerbaijan without being vaccinated (he has a Covid passport), how 15 months of vaccines have been great (vaccines began 10 months ago), how Robinson may really be a public figure to promote anti-vaxxers (what do we even put in these brackets), before Joe proudly told us that: “I respect his choice but if you’re not vaccinated you should stay in your bedroom”. (He also suggested we “take one for the team”, this in a year when he took home €392,494 while speaking to those losing everything and telling them we’re in it together.)

I get it.

Lie with dogs and catch fleas, but the problem with Liveline is that it not just captures much of the national mood, it creates and influences it. And while no doubt a hugely successful programme, that alone should not be the remit of the national broadcaster.

Can’t it do better? Sure, correct what is wrong, but do that on both sides rather than being a hustle through the brain-dead badlands, a proud strut through the carcasses of enlightenment.

For what little it’s worth, I think Robinson should get the vaccination. I’d advise anyone to, but advice and abuse are not the same thing. Like it or not, it is his choice, and even if it’s for the wrong reasons, the science remains. This is what’s been lacking throughout a testosterone fueled tearing apart of him. [more at link below]

Forgive Me RTÉ For I Have Sinned – It’s Been Two Months Since My Last Vaccination (Ewan MacKenna)

Yesterday: Callumny

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34 thoughts on “One For The Team

  1. SOQ

    These are not a couple of young fellas who are misguided in their decision, they are professional athletes at the top of their game, whom are worth a lot of money.

    The 40% of the team who have not taken such vaccines probably have better medical advice and risk analysis that most of us could dream of.

    As for ‘Joe’- just like Nolan up north, he is a professional troll- nothing more. His game is ratings, just like theirs is football.

    It’s ironic that those who are currently witch hunting people over something which doesn’t affect them, are the very same people who sneer at the Catholic curtain twitchers of times past.

    1. chris

      It’s insane that someone’s medical status, that which should be private – is bandied about in a reckless manner.

      What next, a press conference on has he ever attended STD clinics?

  2. Nigel

    Joe Duffy should not be berating people for not getting vaccinated, and definitely not singling people out. Between the large uptake amongst adults and the fact that the guy he targeted already had covid twice it’s redundant on top of being crass and stupid. It might actually be useful data to measure the immunity of someone twice-infected and unvaccinated, for one thing, and the guy has a right to complain about restrictions, but unfortunately there’s so much uncertainty and moving parts and things beyond our control involved in coming out of the pandemic that he may just have to put up with it for the time being. Honestly, the sooner it can stop being an issue the better for everyone. But Joe Duffy can get over himself.

      1. K. Cavan

        I think someone’s hacked Nigel’s phone. Nige old boy, you do realise that you usually come across pretty much like Joe “Yeah” Duffy, and pretty much the rest of those demented loons out in Donnybrook?
        Obviously, you’re not as bad as them (he is, I’m just giving him the plamas).

  3. gallantman

    A clamour to essentially waste a vaccine on a person that we know to have high natural immunity while genuinely vulnerable people around the world can’t get their hands on vaccines.

    1. f_lawless

      He’s an ‘influencer’ who’s after publicly expressing Covid vaccine heresy. Have to set the media gears in motion to stamp out this wrongthink before it corrupts any more young minds – and let it be an example to any other influencers might be encouraged to say something similar

      1. SOQ

        Maybe I am just flipping my cynicism in the opposite direction but I suspect Nicki Minaj knew which way the wind was blowing before her pronouncement.

        NYC blacks outside while whites eat in is… a political IBS rumble.

    2. Cian

      His “natural” immunity wasn’t very good – he got Covid twice.

      Perhaps the vaccine might give him better immunity.

      1. bisted

        …I wouldn’t be a big fan of Joe but…his line that the footballer had Covid more often than he’d scored for Ireland was pretty good.

      2. f_lawless

        I’m trying to find clarification on that. Of course “Covid-19” is defined as the symptoms of disease caused by a SARS-Cov-2 infection. Getting a positive SARS-Cov-2 PCR test result isn’t the same contracting “Covid” – although for so long now the media have blurred the lines between the two that the term is frequently misused. It’s been well documented at this stage that a positive PCR test alone is not enough to diagnose whether someone has an active infection or not or whether someone is infectious.

        You wrote yesterday:
        “He got Covd-19 two months ago, was symptomatic,

        I asked:
        “Can I ask where you got the information that he was symptomatic after getting a positive PCR test result around two months ago? I read that back in Nov 2020 he developed Covid symptoms for a few days subsequent to a PCR positive test result, but can’t find any mention of him suffering Covid symptoms after the 2nd more recent positive test result.”
        https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/10/06/callumny-2/#comment-2355353

        I suppose it’s possible that he developed mild symptoms the second time round which would still be an indication that his natural immunity was doing its job. The 1918 Spanish Flu is still in circulation and every human infection with the standard ‘Influenza A’ since 1918 is derived from it. But a herd immunity threshold has been maintained (even in times before the flu vaccines) where most of those that do get infected have relatively mild infections

        Where did you read of Robinson’s symptoms second time round, out of curiosity?

        1. bisted

          …jeez…thought you were replying to me there f_uhrer…sadly not, but the question is still the same…what motivatates you?

        2. George

          Did you really look? He was very clear at the press conference that he had symptoms both times and that the second was worse:

          “The first time wasn’t as bad as the second time… smell, taste, you know the normal symptoms.

          “The second one, I had a little bit of a bad chest – which was a little bit annoying – so it took probably longer to get back to my full fitness, and to get my energy back because I think it took a little bit more out of me than the first time.”

          https://www.otbsports.com/sport/robinson-says-hes-not-been-vaccinated-despite-catching-covid-twice-1260879

      3. K. Cavan

        Ok Cian, let’s try to talk you down from your anti-natural immunity rage.
        He had two positive tests, one of which was wrong. That’s actually hugely accurate if they were PCR tests but I don’t know that they were. Usually two tests would tend, statistically, to be both wrong.

        1. f_lawless

          At this point I have to wonder if Cian was telling a fib when asserted Robinson “was symptomatic” after a second positive test. Surely he couldn’t have been making it up on the spot just to back up the argument he wanted to make? The very thing he accuses others of doing.

    3. Zaccone

      +1

      Hes a young, fit, athlete who was at very little risk to begin with. And as someone whos recently had covid hes now known to be more immune than a double vaccinated person for at least 9 months.

      Calls to force him to take two vaccine shots, when there are literally tens of millions of very vulnerable 80 year olds around the world unable to get vaccinated, is pretty horrific morally. And shows a complete lack of understanding of statistics.

  4. Sara

    In two minds about this. The idiots who don’t get a vaccine are more likely to die of covid. So that’d clear the decks of the conspiracy theorists. But on the other hand, they’re spreading covid around like its confetti.

    1. Cui Bono?

      Absolute nonsense Sara.

      The average IFR for covid is only 0.15% so most will definitely not die.

      The unvaccinated are not spreading covid like confetti. Most do not have covid or have already had it.

      It’s not a conspiracy theory – it’s just science and data.

    1. K. Cavan

      SOQ, footballers are so bored, they tend to go for stuff like that, better than developing a gambling addiction, I suppose. A friend was watching a game recently with an older acquaintance & remarked on one of the players having an over the top hairstyle.
      The older guy scrutinized the lad’s barnet and replied “ah, jayz, that’s a cry for help”.

  5. GiggidyGoo

    Taking one for the team is Daffy. Not the Irish team though. 12,5% rate is gone. Proud moment for FFG

    Who once said “Setting rates of tax is a matter for sovereign countries”. ?
    Yep Blueshirt Noonan. Going by that, FG have now completed the sellout of Ireland’s sovereignty.

    1. K. Cavan

      How much did they get for it, though?
      Round of drinks or golf outing?
      It was Meehole that declared sovereignty an outdated concept and declared himself, basically, agin it.
      As he made that statement, he had a look on his face that made you think he saw it as a disease.
      The last FF Taoiseach, what a way to bow out.

  6. K. Cavan

    You need to keep up, Sara, most hospitalisations, above 80% in some places, are double-jabbed. The deaths may still be mostly coming from vaccine injuries but those double-jabbed people would clearly, thinking they’re immune, be far more likely to infect others.
    Scientifically, a double-jabbed Covid victim is the real, factual Super-Spreader, not only because of the false sense of security they have from the media lies they were exposed to about immunity but because they’re far more likely to be coughing out variants, if the fake vaccine is functioning even a little bit.

  7. Chuckenstein

    Joe was a disgrace yesterday. I say this as a fully-vaccinated, pandemic-long listener to RTÉ. Constantly shouting over any opposing view was just childish. He came across (as he often does) like a raving lunatic; the very qualities he tries to paste on to those that don’t fit the show’s agenda.

    1. Joe

      Joe was excellent yesterday. The obnoxious anti vaxxers were handed their man parts and lady parts on a plate.

      You either accept the proven scientific consensus. Or you are exposed as someone that sounds like a total something that sounds a bit like a duckwiit

      Obviously there is no hope for the inane madness of the bodge or his alter egos, F__Clueless or bodges hand up the butt of the Soq puppet and his insane gobsheen gibberish, but still, the BS on BS is good to educate kiddies on the poo of non scientific dangerous filth expounded by broadsheet

      Either you encourage people to die or you are pro vaccination.

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