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This morning/afternoon.

St. Audoen’s Park, Cook Street, Merchants Quay, Dublin 1

Minister for Children and Youth Affairs Katherine Zappone with Lord Mayor of Dublin City, Mr. Paul McAuliffe and Joe Duffy the Launch of the 1916 Children’s Commemorative Play Garden, a joint initiative between the Department of Children and Youth affairs and Dublin City Council.

Inspired by Mr Duffy’s book Children of the Rising, the idea to remember the 40 children who died in 1916 with a play garden came from young people from across Ireland who took part in special consultations.

Now to Tuam…

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‘I probably don’t see us in Donnybrook for a start. The radio centre is way way too big and outdated and I don’t think anyone knows about the two floors of cables and wires under the centre and nobody knows what those wires do and are terrified to cut them!

I think what we will have to do is build a smaller centre somewhere near the M50, ideally I would like it in Dublin City and be part of the regeneration of the city. And for the handover we would shut down the old radio centre and do a countdown with Larry Gogan doing the handover!

Everything in TV and indeed radio is changing each year, we need new hi tec studios and a new smaller site has to be a logical way to go. What we have to also keep is the trust from the public too. When something big happens people will turn to RTE. We have to keep that trust and make sure that what we do is truthful and representative.

We don’t have hidden agendas, for example at the minute the government and water charge protesters think we are biased, we can’t win! We have a contract and a vested interest to the the people of Ireland to keep that trust.”

Joe Duffy talking to Mike O’Brien of Dublin City Photos

FIGHT!

Has Video Killed The Radio Star (DublinCityPhotos)

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This afternoon

A fuming Joe Duffy (centre) challenges unruffled Rio Police commissioner [a commissioner is the second-in-command of a civil police division in Brazil] Aloysio Falcão (top) about the filming of the arrest of “distressed 71-year-old” Pat Hickey among other gripes on RTÉ Radio One’s Liveline.

Grab a tay.

Joe Duffy: “Commissioner Aloysio Falcão of the Rio de Janeiro police and one of the lead investigators in this case, good afternoon.”

Aloysio Falcão: “Good afternoon, how are you?”

Duffy: “Good, thank you and I hope you are aware also, are you aware Commissioner, that in Ireland this has been the biggest story in the last 10 days?”

Falcão: “Yeah Yeah we knew.”

Duffy: Why did you decide to film the arrest of Pat Hickey.

Falcão: “Because we knew that Pat Hickey was the guy who [unintelligible]

Duffy: “Okay Commissioner, that’s all fine but in Ireland that’s not a crime, it’s not a crime and it’s not a crime for Pat Hickey to be in communication with Marcus Evans, it’s not a crime why did you decide to film to video to bring along a cameraman to film Pat Hickey in the middle of the night, a 71 year old man obviously in distress why did you decide to  film and release that video?”

Falcão: “In Brazil, ticket touting is a crime, you know.  It’s a serious crime, I had to respect…”

Duffy: Of course it’s a crime in Brazil, It’s not a crime in Ireland, but some people believe it should be a crime in Ireland.  But why did you film the arrest of Pat Hickey?”

Falcão: “I did the arrest because I had to respect the law.”

Duffy: “Is every arrest in Brazil filmed?”

Falcão: “No, but…”

Duffy: “So why did you film this man being arrested?”

Falcão: “I had to do what the judge said on the warrant.  When I arrested him I  sent him to the hospital to check everything out, he spent in the hospital one day…”

Duffy: “I understand and very good, very good, very good, that’s important.  Why did you decide and who filmed this man in distress in his bedroom?”

Falcão: “Because he was in the hotel, in his bedroom, you know we had judge warrant, we had to do it.  And he wasn’t in his room, his wife was in his room, his wife, he was in a different room from his wife.  His wife told the police he went back to Ireland you know.”

Duffy: “Hmm well as I said last week when all of this was happening, there might have been a misunderstanding.  It is a different language.  Are you saying the Judge ordered the arrest of Pat Hickey being filmed.”

Falcão: “Yeah, yeah he did.”

Duffy: “So are you saying the judge said I want to see video and film evidence I want to see the film, the movie of this man being arrested.”

Falcão: “Not the judge’s order, it’s like the media.  We didn’t authorise the media, you know.”

Duffy: “And Commissioner, where does the investigation stand now.  Is there any possibility that Pat Hickey who, as you know is a 71 year old man, you know and you had to call the doctor, that  Hickey could be released on bail and out of that prison.”

Falcão: “Yeah, we have a kind of domiciliary prison where the guy is older than 80 or is in bad health, his lawyers are trying to get this kind of prison for him to be in.”

Duffy: “So can I ask you, Commissioner, on behalf of the Rio de Janeiro police, would you object if the judge said you can release this man from prison and put him under as you say domiciliary containment, would you object Commissioner?”

Falcão: “No.”

Duffy: “So you would be in favour of Pat Hickey being released  from prison once he does not leave Rio, is that correct?”

Falcão: “Sure.  The Brazilian system is not unfair [unintelligible].  I’m going to talk to the judge today.”

Duffy: “So you’re going to talk to the judge today to say you have no objection to Pat Hickey being released.  Have you any objection to him leaving Brazil?”

Falcão: “Yeah. He has to stay in Brazil because he has more questions about more people who are being arrested… he can be in domiciliary jail but it’s the judge’s decision, I can’t decide that, you know.”

Duffy: “But can you – is it within your power to say to the judge we will allow Pat Hickey to hold in a hotel in Rio so long as we have his passport and he cannot leave Brazil, is that your opinion?”

Falcão: “I have the power to talk to the judge but not to release him from jail.”

Duffy: “Yes but once he stays in Brazil.”

Falcão: “Yeah but we don’t have this power you know, it’s the judge’s decision.

Duffy: “But approximately Commissioner when do you hope to hand the file to the judge and say we’ve done all our investigations now you decide when is that a week a month, how long ?”

Falcão: “I can’t tell you, maybe between 1 and 3 months, between 1 and 3 months, I hope so you know.”

Duffy: “So if Mr Hickey –  which he vehemently asserts, as does Mr Mallon, that they were innocent, you’re saying well we will not have a decision on that from the Brazilian system for up to 3 months?”

Falcão: “If they are innocent for sure we have a decision, the Brazilian court, it’s Brazilian law I don’t know how it works in Ireland but we have to make sure that people don’t run away from the country otherwise it’s going to be impossible to inquire them.”

Duffy: “Have you asked Interpol to help?”

Falcão: “Yeah, for sure.  I am in contact with the Interpol the Interpol is going to help the Brazilian police.”

Duffy: “And what country are Interpol going to ask to assist?”

Falcão: “Interpol is based in France.

Duffy: “Yes, I know that, it’s based in Lyon but are you saying to Interpol, can you get information from Ireland?”

Falcão: “I can’t tell you about the information but what I can tell you is that I made contact with Interpol they are helping the Brazilian police.”

Duffy: “Have you had any representations from the Irish government?”

Falcão: “No.  That’s why I also want to get some help from the media because we need some help from the government.  I know Shane Ross had a meeting but he has left.  I also want to know about the government position, what they are doing you know.  Our police can be helped by your government.  We can trade information about this scandal.”

Duffy: “But have you contacted the Irish government via our embassy?”

Falcão: “Not yet.”

Duffy: “But you’re saying you want to speak to Shane Ross and also the Irish Government.  Do you want to speak to the Irish police?”

Falcão: “Yes.  It would be great for the enquiry because more information is much better, it’s more fair for the process, we don’t want to be unfair, I have to know what happened with the government in Ireland and also the government, they will want to know what happened in Brazil.”

Duffy: “Well, Commissioner, a number of politicians in Ireland, some in opposition, some in Government, Minister Simon Coveney, Shane Ross made a reference to it as well, as the leader of the Labour Party said this is not the way we do things in Ireland, I’m quoting a onetime leader of the Labour Party, can you understand that the arrest of this man, the filming of the arrest the immediate removal, okay you took him to a hospital, and his incarceration in prison, to some people in Ireland to a lot of people I think in fairness they don’t think that is very fair.”

Falcão: “I know.  What I can tell you is that the police treated him very well.  We left him in the hospital for one day, he then went to the prison when the doctor examined him met him and said well now he’s okay… I talked to him and his lawyer always, always you know.”

Duffy: “You know this cocktail party, this sting operation where you sent undercover policeman to this cocktail party does that mean you have been on, when did this case open, did it open when the Olympics started or had it started a few years ago, how long have you been on this case?”

Falcão: “We had a lot of investigation at 2014 at the World Cup football, we arrested a director of THG and we know that THG was trying to get credentials for the Games, that’s why we started the investigation. Two years ago.”

Duffy: “You were watching THG before the Olympics.  Before they arrived, were you aware of the arrival of the Irish Olympic Committee, were you suspicious of a connection then.

Falcão: “The Olympic Irish Council was suspected when we found maybe 800 tickets and all those tickets were designated for the Irish Olympic contingent.”

Duffy: “So is it fair to say that before then, Pat Hickey and indeed Kevin Mallon  and indeed other people whom you now want their passports, you were not suspicious of them you were not suspicious of them, you only became suspicious of them when you found those tickets at this cocktail party for instance.  Before they arrived in Rio you were not suspicious of them.  You only became interested in them when you found the tickets at this cocktail party. All the tickets you found were only from the Irish Olympic Council?

Falcão: “ Only Irish.”

Duffy: “Whey did you put Pat Hickey’s boarding card and his accreditation, why did you put them  on your table for those photographs you were at?”

Falcão: “I didn’t put them on my table.”

Duffy: Ah now no hang on hang on the media didn’t have his passport why did you put his passport on the table

Falcão: “We confiscated it.”

Duffy: Oh what you have okay okay, that’s the way in Brazil, okay. And did Pat Hickey have a second passport?”

Falcão: “He had a second passport he gave to the police, yes.”

Duffy: “And is the second passport Irish?”

Falcão: “Yeah, I think so.”

Duffy: “But you can’t have two passports.  And both passports were valid?”

Falcão: “Yeah, yeah, I think because he travels a lot he has a second passport.”

Duffy: “A spare one. But you’re adamant It wasn’t a false passport, it was a spare passport.”

Falcão: “It’s original, it’s a true passport.”

Duffy: “But there’s nothing wrong with that is there?”

Falcão: “Nothing wrong.”

Duffy: “Okay Commissioner thank you for your time.”

Falcão: “Okay thank you I appreciate that also.  Sorry for the question I didn’t answer.  It’s difficult to talk over the phone.  I’m not good at the language.”

Duffy: “But given that you raised the question you didn’t answer, do you regret, are you sorry that you let the cameras in to a 71 year old man in distress?

Falcão: “No, I didn’t authorise that, I didn’t.  It was a problem with the hotel security.”

Duffy: “And also, do you carry a gun?”

Falcão: “ I can tell you, I didn’t like what happened.”

Duffy: “Well then why didn’t you tell the media, you have a gun on you in the photographs, why didn’t you tell the media to get lost.”

Falcão: “The media were there, a lot of television, they saw the police coming in, they entered in the hotel, security people didn’t stop them, when Pat Hickey was arrested we didn’t put anything on the internet, we went out through the basement because of the media, I authorised this, he asked me can I go out through the basement because of the media and I said, sure, yes.”

Duffy: “And you’re saying Pat Hickey requested that he be taken out of the hotel privately?”

Falcão: “Yes, the basement, I authorised that.”

Duffy: “Commissioner Falcão, lead investigator with the Rio police, thank you.

Fair and balanced?

Or police brutality?

Only you can decide.

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Earlier: Dan Boyle on Thursday

Previously: RTÉ Is Ireland’s Biggest Problem

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Stop doing that.

Karlj writes:

You should put up a select transcript from today’s Liveline [RTÉ Radio 1. The host went off on an angle about this letter (above) in Alive! [Catholic newspaper] and the editor Fr [Brian] Mc Kevitt was able for him.

However each point the priest was made was twisted by Joe Duffy or other callers and it descended into a farce. In particular Joe Duffy questioning Alive! policies and not being able to defend RTÉ licence payers being used to pay 3 producers for a 75 minute show! Fr McKevitt has previous complained to the BAI about Joe Duffy’s treatment….

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RTÉ’s Joe Duffy

Readers may be aware that Irish flags and a copy of the Proclmation of the Irish Republic are being delivered to every national school in the country as part of the events to commemorate the 1916 Rising.

This initiative was discussed on RTÉ’s Liveline, hosted by Joe Duffy yesterday with one caller, introduced as Gerry Murphy, from Manorhamilton, Co Leitrim, had some issues.

Gerry Murphy: “I can’t understand, for the life of me, what the Army are doing going around the country to national schools with flags and the Proclamation – this is supposed to be a Republic.”

Joe Duffy: “Uh-hum.”

Murphy: “I would expect the likes of that happening in North Korea, I don’t expect it and I don’t want it in this country.”

Duffy: “Why not? Explain…”

Murphy: “This… we… have we learned nothing from 1966? When every class of propaganda was portrayed from the start of the TV and I remember watching it. And here we go again, the next year will be totally taken over by military. This is a Republic, not a dictatorship, not run by the military, though I tell you, having watch the queen’s visit and things that have been going on this last while, it’s going more and more like a military junta – that’s what we’re witnessing.”

Duffy: “Ah no, no, no, no. No you’ve got over the…”

Murphy: “Is that what we’re going to witness in the next year…”

Duffy: “No Gerry, you’ve gone over the line there, a military junta – pull back a bit now for a second, just in terms of even your own argument. You’re saying…”

Murphy: “Do you remember, Joe, when we were warned that Charlie Haughey was trying to introduce a dictatorship into this country – we’re not too far removed from it.”

Duffy: “Aaah, now you’re…”

Talk over each other

Murphy: “I watched yesterday…”

Duffy: “Yeah, go on..”

Murphy: “… and our current Taoiseach, sitting like a pampered pup, as this flag and this Proclamation was being presented to youngsters. There are 3,500 people dead, Joe, thousands above us are maimed for life because of the propaganda machine that was in 1966 – we’re going to witness some more of that in the coming year when it will be used as a distraction to keep people’s minds away from water charges, bin charges, they can’t afford to pay their bills, it’s a propaganda exercise.”

Duffy: “Let’s parse this a little bit. Take the Army out. What do you think about the Proclamation being sent to every school, the new copy?”

Murphy: “No, I don’t think there’s any need for it.

Duffy: “The Tricolour?”

Murphy: “If there was as much money spent on looking after kids that couldn’t afford books…”

Duffy: “I know, I know, I know all those arguments, yeah.”

Murphy: “There’s no problem Joe in having military…what was the cost to send that entourage down to Enda Kenny’s former school in Castlebar on in Islandeady yesterday? An absolute fortune was spent on it by the time security and all the rest of it… I don’t know how many break-ins occurred in Castlebar or in Islandeady yesterday when every garda in the place was…”

Duffy: “But Gerry, but Gerry…”

Murphy: “…minding our so-called leader.”

Duffy: “Yeah but Gerry well he is our Taoiseach, whether you like it or not, he was elected. But Gerry what are you saying: the Taoiseach should lock himself up in a phone box in Merrion Street and never leave because the security costs too much?”

Murphy: “Well when you look at it, Joe…”

Later

Murphy: “This was supposed to be a democracy, not a military dictatorship.”

Duffy: “Gerry, you’re talking rubbish. Gerry, you’re talking rubbish, it is, no, Gerry, you started off brilliantly in your argument, I can see people laughing. And I don’t want people laughing at a caller on this programme. It’s not a military dictatorship, end of. It’s not. End of. And it’s no way near that, it could be no way near that.”

Talk over each other

Duffy: “No, Gerry, what I want you to do is to take the next 90 seconds, just to reflect on what you’re going to say after the break.”

Goes to break

Later

Duffy: “Gerry Murphy, final line, quickly Gerry.”

Murphy: “Look it Joe, this present outfit would hijack your mother’s grave if she was in it…”

Duffy: “Aah…”

Murphy: “…for a publicity stunt. Look it, RTE is selective in what it’ll give us in the next 12 months, they do what they’ve been told for a long time. Sadly, that’s the state we’re at.”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Murphy: “Joe..”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Murphy: “Because Joe…”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the, say it Gerry.”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Murphy: “Why won’t Enda Kenny appear on TV3?”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, go on, say it Gerry, what station are you on at the minute?”

Murphy: “Why won’t Enda Kenny appear with Vincent Browne? on TV3?”

Duffy: “What station are you on at the minute, Gerry?”

Duffy: “Say it.”

Duffy: “Say it, Gerry, what station are you on at the minute?”

Duffy: “Say it.”

Murphy: “Why is Enda Kenny running from Vincent Browne?”

Duffy: “Say it.”

Murphy: “On TV3, Joe.”

Duffy: “You won’t say it, you won’t say it. You’re on RTÉ Gerry, you’re on RTE, you’re on RTE, Gerry and you’re welcome to come back on again. Go raibh míle maith agat. 5, 1, go raibh míle maith agat, Gerry, you’re on RTÉ. 5, 1, double 5, 1 continues. Hugh Ormond produces and Ray D’Arcy is next…on RTÉ.”

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Related: Primary schools to get Tricolour for 1916 centenary (RTE)

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Liveline host Joe Duffy

Liveline.

On de telly.

Joe Duffy spoke on Mornings With Dave Fanning on RTÉ Radio One this morning to talk about his new six-part TV show, which will be called Call Back.

“It’s like Reeling In The Liveline, trying to trace back what happened various people’s stories, projects that were helped, that were supported, people that came on the programme over the years, what happened them after the programme, what happened, the issues they raised, what happened the projects that Liveline got involved in.

I’ve been pushing the idea for a few years but now it looks like its day has come, we’re making a six-part series. We’ve made a pilot. We had to make a pilot first and showed it to the powers-that-be and they liked it and they’ve commissioned six of them and they’ll be going out between now and Christmas.”

“The nature of Liveline, as you know, is a very rolling, very energetic daily programme, subjects change within the programme, subjects change within the week and sometimes, when one issue is raised and people ring and say we’ll help, we’ll do this, we’ll try and get someone home from America, we’ll try and repatriate this, we’ll try and help that A&E unit, we’ll try and help that family in whatever, by the time the next Liveline comes around, it’s moved on to, as always happens, to more urgent topics, so it’s a simple thing, people are always stopping me saying, ‘whatever happened the family of’, ‘whatever happened that house you built’…”

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Yesterday Joe Duffy opened his RTÉ Radio One Liveline show with a caller called ‘Grace’ complaining of dirty tricks by water protestors on her estate.

To some, including the host, Grace’s story was a genuine heart-tugging tale of community infiltration.

But many heard something else entirely.

Joe Duffy: “Grace, what happened yesterday?”

Grace: “The workers for Irish Water came in into our estate, they put the meters in unopposed by the residents, everyone was very friendly with them, some neighbours even offered to, to give them a cup of tea or if they wanted any water, they put the meters in, and when residents came back after being out all day at work they found that the fresh concrete had been interfered with around the meter in some instances people had stood in it and had made a mess of it, so then the workers, I think, called the police, they came and took pictures of the damage and took statements from the residents, but the protesters who came into our estate were uninvited, unwelcome, and were not acting on any residents’ behalf.”

Duffy: “And did anyone see the protestors?”

Grace: “Yes, some were seen the day before, scouting the area, they were in the area at another estate protesting so some of them came up from the other estate to have a good look round, gave the impression that they were going to cause a protest, so the workers were on high alert and there was lots of phoning going on with their supervisors, so they didn’t really go in with the work because they thought that there was going to be trouble, so, the next day, which was yesterday, they got going with the works, and then in the afternoon the protestors came up and did damage.”

Duffy: “Yes, but when you say protestors, how many?”

Grace: “There would have been, maybe, two or three.”

Duffy: “And how do you know they weren’t just vandals?”

Grace: “Because they, you know, were part of a larger group that was close to the estate that I live in, and you know, a couple of them were recognised as being from the larger group because they were seen by my husband who happened to be in the area and he recognised them, and the workers and the police were also aware of them because they had seen them in the previous estates where they had tried to put in the water meters, so, you know, they go from estate to estate, and as soon as the orange barriers go up, the same kind of group of protestors move from one group of houses to the next group of houses so the workers would get to know them.”

Duffy: “Are they carrying placards or banners or chanting or anything?”

Grace:
“No, no.”

Duffy: “So how do you know they’re, just to be fair to them like, how do you know they are water meter protestors, come at it another way, what age group would they be?”

Grace: “Anything from early 20s into 50s, they’re a broad range of people, a lot of them would be residents of other estates, they would have hangers-on but they move from estate to estate they wouldn’t all be residents of that particular estate they just move with the workers, wherever the workers go these protestors go with them.”

Duffy: “And what do they say to the workers if anything?”

Grace: “They are aggressive towards them and I overheard last week in a different estate I happened to be on a walk and I was listening in through the ditch, the language was appalling, the worker was referred to as a something else…”

Duffy: “Desperate.”

Grace: “Yes, appalling, absolutely, I mean for children to overhear their parents using this language it was disgusting, and the workers are only trying to do their job and they’re being abused right left and centre, there’s an aggressive element to these protestors, they’re not wanted, they’re not invited and they’re not welcome, and if the Irish people don’t stand up to them, you know, to this aggression and intimidation, it’s basically, a chance for them to, just come into your estate and show some kind of power.”

Duffy:
“And Grace, did anybody stand up to them yesterday like?”

Grace: “A lady did, a lady did stand up to them and I’d say she, she was kind of shaking afterwards because she got nowhere with them.”

Duffy: “And what did she say?”

Grace: “She said go away, go away from that, you’re not welcome because I don’t want you anywhere near my meter, and they stood in the meter and they damaged it, the fresh concrete that had just been laid…”

Duffy: “The soft concrete, in other words, that wasn’t set.”

Grace: “Yes, and those workers had to come around and now, today and they have to put in fresh concrete into those damaged holes…”

Duffy: “And is there any sign on your estate, Grace, of people opposing water metres?”

Grace:
“Yes there are, there is a sign but it’s a peaceful protest.”

Duffy: “And where’s the sign?”

Grace:
“It’s in the front window, these signs are pretty common you know in other estates in the area but you know it’s not a violent thing, it’s just a piece of paper on a window, it means nothing really at the end of the day because the meter goes in anyway.”

Duffy: “And what do you think of the water charges?”

Grace: “I have no problem paying them to be honest. It’s just another bill that has to be paid, you know, I feel that.”

Duffy: “Well the slogan for tomorrow is that water is a human right?”

Grace: “Yes, but you have to pay for your utilities, you have to pay for electricity, you have to pay for gas, it’s just another utility we’re just lucky that we’ve got away all these years without having to pay for it…”

Duffy: “The argument is, you’re already paying for it through your central taxation income tax and what have you, car tax, whatever?”

Grace: “Yeah but the country Joe can’t run on air we have to start paying for things to get it up and running again and you know it’s not going to be a huge amount of money, you know it’s reasonable enough, I’m not a wealthy person, I’m a law-abiding citizen, I voted the government in and I knew it was on the agenda and I voted them in and it’s happening now and most of my peers and most of the people I live with are all in agreement, it’s just another bill that has to be paid and nobody wants any fighting aggression nobody wants intimidation or workers to be hurt.”

Duffy: “And you say one person in your estate has put a sign in the window saying no to water charges. Given that you’re calling people to stand up would anybody put a sign in the window saying yes to water charges, like you are, supporting…”

Grace: “Yeah, no they wouldn’t do a thing like that because to be honest Joe it doesn’t come into a persons thinking that deeply, people are just getting on with their lives, and they’re just, paying their bills and they’re just accepting the whole thing, workers coming in, they’re just accepting it, they’re not going out of their way to oppose it, it’s, the protestors, what are they opposing, it doesn’t make sense that they go around intimidating people and causing damage, that’s not a good protest.”

Duffy: “Well, the argument would be, Grace, that that’s only a very small minority…”

Grace: “Well Joe, some day I’ll meet you and I’ll bring you to some of the estates where this is all going on its not just a couple of people it’s a group of people and they are vicious. People should stand up to people like that, there’s an aggressive tone coming into these protests and into Irish society generally where people are allowed to push and shove and be aggressive, and it’s not right.”

Duffy: “Yeah but if people are pushing and shoving and being aggressive, there are Gardai there.”

Grace: “The guards, Joe have too much to be doing in their own area to be dealing with everyday crime. They don’t have the resources to be going to every single estate and monitoring it. I mean, one particular estate last week, there were squad cars, there was a van, there was Gardai on bikes, it’s taking up a huge amount of resources monitoring these protests.”

Duffy: “And what do you say to the organisers, I mean the turnout at one stage was 100,000, I know it was smaller the last time but still significant, still very significant.”

Grace: “Well I think the leaders, Richard Boyd Barrett, Paul Murphy they’re educated men and I’m sure they’re people who don’t want violent protests but I think they should speak to the people and re-iterate at all times…”

Duffy: “They do say that, they do say that.”

Grace: “that there should be no intimidation, no violence no interference of property belonging to people, they should not go into an estate…”

Duffy: “And what about your own TDs?”

Grace: “Em, well I haven’t got in contact with any of them yet but these people should not go into estates where they are not welcome. They are not welcome, Joe, we did not invite these people.”

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From left: Richard Guiney CEO Dublin City Business Improvement District; Paul Carroll, Regional Manager for Employment Services; Tánaiste Joan Burton; Richie Boucher, CEO Bank of Ireland; Stephen Kirwan, ActionCOACH Business Coaching.

You may recall yesterday’s post concerning the (strongly pro) JobBridge debate on Liveline.

Orla writes:

“You were wondering about the caller ‘Stephen’ to [RTÉ] Liveline who had been on JobBridge and couldn’t speak highly enough of the scheme. This is Stephen Kirwan (arrowed) – he’s a business coach with ‘controversial‘ franchise ActionCoach – and is pictured at the [Bank of Ireland] House of Lords (no less) in July promoting JobBridge with JobBridge creator Joan Burton and Bank of Ireland chief executive Richie Boucher. What are the chances?”

Good times.

Yesterday:  JoeBridge

joe_duffyIf you sell your home at the end of this year YOU are still liable for property tax until November next year.

Yeah whatever

But all is not lost.

Dublin solicitor Caroline Fanning contacted Liveline on RTE R1 this afternoon to tell Joe Duffy about a potential loophole the revenue overlooked.

It may involve throwing a “sickie”.

Caroline Fanning: “I decided to go back and have another look at the Finance Act 2012, which is the relevant legislation – and in that Act, it imposes this tax on people who are deemed to be liable persons, as of the 1st November 2013 – so they are liable for the 2014 tax.
“But if you read on further through that Act, if you look at Section 5.2, Sub Section A2. Sub Section 5.2 says that, ‘A residential property won’t be deemed to be a relevant residential property where the property has been vacated by the liable person for a period less than 12 months.’
“It doesn’t specify if that period is one day, or one hour – it just says less than 12 months – and where a GP is satisfied that that person is unlikely to resume occupation of that property, provided that the property is not occupied by another person.
It’s an interpretation of this section, because it’s very loose, because the rest of the section is in terms of a person who has a long term mental or physical infirmity, which is Section 5.2A Sub Section 1, but there’s no link between Sub Section 1 and Sub Section 2 – so you can read Sub Section 2 in its entirety as a stand-alone sub section.
So, therefore, if somebody sells their property tomorrow and goes to their doctor and says, ‘I’ve sold my property, I’ve given my keys to them, I’ve got the money in my bank account, I’m never going to live there again.’ – and their doctor is satisfied that that is the case, and that the new owner hasn’t immediately resumed occupation of the property – say a couple of days’ grace, moving stuff out, or builders, or whatever, their GP, if they certify that that person won’t be resuming occupation, that person has complied with Section 5.2A, Sub Section 2, that the property is not going to be a relevant residential property and therefore, they are not liable for the tax.”

Joe Duffy: “But they would say there is subsidiarity in Sub Section 5.2A1?”

Caroline Fanning: “The last word in Sub Section 5.2A1 is ‘or’, which means that either one will apply – so I think that under this interpretation of statute for a penal tax, or something penal is happening to the citizen that you’re able to construe that legislation in favour of the citizen – and I think that in this case, it’s definitely a case to be made.”

Joe Duffy:
“And Caroline, you are a solicitor, I see, it’s very very well spotted. Have you ever beaten Revenue in interpretation?”

Caroline Fanning: “I’ve beaten – I’ve won on certain things in going back..{Joe interrupts}.”

Joe Duffy: “You’re saying, your belief is that if you read this in a particular way – in the way it’s written, that anyone who does sell their house in November or December this year – at the moment they are being hit by the property tax – even though they have no access or use of the house, or ownership of the house, they will be hit for property tax for next year. You’re saying that what you should do is, regardless of your mental or physical state, you go to a GP, and you get a letter from a GP saying, ‘I will not be…{Caroline interrupts}

Caroline Fanning: “…they are satisfied that you will be unlikely at any stage to resume occupation of the property’ – which is the wording in the legislation.”

Joe Duffy:
“And you can send that into Revenue and that exempts you?”

Caroline Fanning:
“Well, there’s definitely a case to be made.”

Joe Duffy: “Revenue will say that this was aimed at people going into a nursing home?”

Caroline Fanning: “But there’s no link between the two, you can read them in their entirety.”

Joe Duffy: “So what you’re saying is 5.2A2 should actually be 5.2A and should be part of 5.2A1 and there shouldn’t be a break?”

Caroline Fanning:
“Well, that would be up to the drafters of the legislation, but there’s definitely an interpretation to be made that could apply to those people that are being hit for property tax for next year.”

Joe Duffy: “But the GP will laugh – if you were to say, ‘Will you exempt me from my property tax?”

Caroline Fanning: “That would be up to the GP, I’m sure some would be sympathetic.”

Joe Duffy: “That’s fascinating, well spotted – and best of luck with it Caroline!”

Caroline Fannning: “Thank you.”

FIGHT!

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00114424Who will Joe for the Joes?

The Broadcasting Authority of Ireland has upheld two complaints about a Liveline programme broadcast on 5 March.

A listener claimed that presenter Joe Duffy had harassed the editor of the Catholic monthly newspaper Alive and that callers to the show had also abused Fr Brian McKevitt.

The priest had written an article in the magazine in which he compared Taoiseach Enda Kenny to King Herod.

 

BAI upholds two complaints against RTÉ’s Liveline (RTE)

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