This morning.

Dublin Castle, Dublin 2.

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Michael McGrath has said businesses in the hospitality industry who do not comply with rules around Covid-19 passes “do not deserve to remain open”.

On his way into Cabinet, the minister said that although there has been a “pretty good level of compliance.. those who aren’t are putting the public at risk”.

Non-Covid compliant businesses ‘don’t deserve to remain open'(RTÉ)

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20 thoughts on “Obey

  1. Micko

    What were they thinking about, opening up without the special magical protection of the €9 meal in place!

    They were mad… mad I say

    YOU’VE DOOMED US ALL IRISH GOVERNMENT

  2. What, Me?

    Nothing wrong with that. If they don’t comply with food safety laws they get closed too, and rightly so.

    1. E'Matty

      Except even with a pub or restaurant obeying these rules you could still be infected by the fully vaccinated patrons. These passes provide NO protection from anything and are a means of coercion and ultimately societal control. You are just another fool cheerleading your own ultimate loss of liberties.

      1. Michael MacC

        Spot on,E’Matty…Irish still sleepwalking, the “only” narrative now fully embeded in their brains.

  3. Gavin

    What is the actual point of the pass, if over 90% are vaccinated and transmission is not stoped by the jab. If the goal is to stop transmission then surely everyone should be showing a negative test instead of a pass.

    1. Micko

      Ah questions… yer not allowed to ask them Gavin.

      But,

      Dr Peter Doshi – Associate Editor of The British Medical Journal and Associate Professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy might be allowed to ask some.

      Maybe

      Here he is speaking on Nov. 2, 2021 at the EXPERT panel on US Federal Vaccine Mandates

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeIOFgOxYEU

      This is worth 5 mins of anyones time and if people here won’t spend 5 mins watching another mans opinion – ask yourself why ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      1. Darren

        Absolutely worth listening to the five minute video. Not high and mighty or divisive .. just reasonable and sensible observations .. thanks for sharing this video

    2. Zaccone

      93%~ of adults have been vaccinated in Ireland. Of the remaining few estimates are about one quarter to a third have been vaccinated in the UK/US/EU (its why vaccination rates are so low in the border counties with NI).

      So realistically its under 5% of adults unvaccinated. Who aren’t any more likely to spread the disease we now know.

      The government’s own inspections also show a 96% compliance rate within the hospitality industry: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/almost-5000-covid-checks-on-hospitality-businesses-unable-to-be-completed-41032695.html

      But we aren’t hearing about that for some reason. Instead its pointing the finger of blame – its all the fault of the unvaccinated. Or the hospitality industry. Or the UK. Its never the fault of FF & FG for running down the health services so that we have half the EU per capita average of ICU beds…

  4. Broadbag

    Do all the staff have to be vaccinated? Does anyone care anymore? Of course they should be checking but it’s hardly a drop in the ocean, trying to demonize an industry that’s been on the floor for nearly 2 years isn’t a good look, more distraction from the government’s ineptitude, failure to increase hospital capacity and constant contradictory advice and half measures.

  5. Mr.T

    Vaccination doesnt stop transmission -> vaccine passes wont stop transmission.

    Vaccinated only in a place does not mean no covid will spread in it – if anything it gives people a false sense of security.
    A stupid measure that exists solely to punish the unvaccinated and coerce them into getting another dose – soon it will be used to coerce people into dose 3 too

  6. Bruncvik

    I’m sure there are plenty of businesses that would love nothing more than to obey the rules, providing:

    * The rules are clear, unambiguous and don’t change whenever a government official is caught breaking them
    * There is a clear distinction of what are the legal rules and what’s only an extralegal advice
    * The Gardai operate within the rules and don’t try to shut down businesses that follow the rules

    1. John Smith

      ‘I’m sure there are plenty of businesses that would love nothing more than to obey the rules, providing:..’

      …and I am sure there are plenty of businesses that would love it if the rules were changed so that they didn’t have to discriminate against some of their potential customers or go through a lot of time consuming and expensive procedures that don’t do what they are designed to do.

      [Your three provisos, Bruncvik, are ones that every legitimate business would no doubt wish to be the case at all times. It’s the laws themselves that are wrong (and ineffective) at the moment, let alone whether these provisos are being met.]

  7. Gavin

    Even those checking the certs would need to be looked at, was in a bar at weekend and it was a quick glance, could have been showing a Tesco club card, the kid checking it didn’t give a toss, (fine by me).

  8. SOQ

    McGrath says “Businesses that do not comply with Covid rules ‘put everyone at risk'” and not one journalist asks HOW?

    It am not sure what is more bizarre- demanding compliance with a stupid law which serves no purpose or- journalists refusing to ask the bleedin obvious.

    I hope and pray people remember this come the next election, because those clowns are just not fit to govern.

  9. E'Matty

    There were more outbreaks in each of travel, schools and workplaces than pubs/restaurants this month but that doesn’t fit the narrative which is to always vilify and attack the hospitality sector. They still haven’t copped that this is a social engineering exercise and the Irish pub culture is under attack. I’d have huge sympathy for those losing their livelihoods but as an industry they’ve fairly bent over and took it all in the rear with barely a whimper. If they’re not willing to fight for their own livelihoods, why would anyone else do so on their behalf? The pubs, led by the spineless Vinters Association, have tried to be the good boys and girls in class acceding to every government imposition and offering little resistance. Despite this, they stand back and allow the government portray them as the cause of the recent rise. The passes are a con, a tool of coercion and control. If 100% of the country was vaccinated, there’d still be viral transmission and Covid cases. Will the pubs stand by and watch their fellow pub owners be driven out of business by the Covid zealots simply for failing to check a useless pass that certifies nothing other than obedience?

  10. K. Cavan

    It’s simply impossible to take this farce seriously anymore. The government wittering on about any aspect of the transparently ridiculous & pointless Vax Pass regime, while their gofer Luke O’Neill gibbers like a lunatic about boosters giving “years of protection”, which he clearly cannot possibly actually know, just exposes the whole operation to ridicule.
    If we were dealing with a pandemic, the government wouldn’t be clowning around like this in front of the media. The whole operation is on life support at this stage, it’s breathing it’s last in ICU with a DNR sign hung around it’s neck.
    The idea of pub & club bouncers as the guardians of the nation’s health is beyond a joke.

    1. SOQ

      Is it possible that the contracts signed with the pharmaceutical companies includes commitments to certain restrictions like Vaccine Passports?

      It certainly would explain the lock stepping of governments on these issues.

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