‘Breathing Difficulties’

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Last night.

Napoli star Piotr Zielinski had to leave the pitch after struggling to breathe in a game against Empoli in the Italian first division.

Via The Sun:

Napoli midfielder Piotr Zielinski was taken off after just 19 minutes against Empoli as he appeared to be struggling to breathe.

The Pole went to the touchline and motioned to his neck and chest.

Zielinski, who put on a coat and was taken into the dressing room, was then replaced by Lorenzo Insigne.

A statement released by Napoli later confirmed Zielinski had some breathing difficulties, but subsequent tests came back negative.

Napoli midfielder Piotr Zielinski taken off after 19 minutes against Empoli after appearing to be struggling to breathe (The Sun)

Meanwhile…

Manchester United defender Victor Lindelof before having to leave the field against Norwich on Saturday

This morning.

Via Ken Early in the Irish Times:

…A collision, a fright, a problem – thankfully behind us? The times being what they are, the story couldn’t end there. You knew before looking how Lindelof’s collapse was going to be interpreted by the sense-makers and meaning-diviners of social media.

Sure enough, there was a tweet from Trevor Sinclair, scorer of Goal of the Season in 1997, and latterly combining football punditry with vaccine-scepticism: “Nothing to see here #Lindelof”. It was obvious that Sinclair’s post was a reference to his previously-aired suspicion that the Covid vaccines are causing a spate of collapses among football players.

But what about Sinclair’s premise – which you can find echoed by thousands on social media – that these cardiac collapses are becoming more common?

Back in November, Sinclair had been talking to Jim White and Simon Jordan on TalkSport about the collapse of Scotland midfielder John Fleck playing for Sheffield United against Reading. “I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the Covid vacc- . . . ” was as far as Sinclair got before the stream went dead, TalkSport’s producers having apparently hit the dump button.

Refusing to be silenced, Sinclair tweeted: “Everyone I speak to about these heart problems suffered by footballers (which worryingly seem to be happening more regularly) are they linked to Covid vaccines or not??

No, these alleged heart problems are not linked to the vaccines, according to medical and scientific experts – as though the word of such experts matters in convincing the sceptics…

…But what about Sinclair’s premise – which you can find echoed by thousands on social media – that these cardiac collapses are becoming more common? The claim has been fact-checked by news agencies including AFP and Reuters and found to be false – not that news agency fact-checking can be expected to convince anybody who doesn’t want to be convinced.

Um.

Ken Early: Don’t make players pawns in sad and bitter Covid culture war ( irish Times)

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80 thoughts on “‘Breathing Difficulties’

  1. RuilleBuille

    He’s got covid because he wouldn’t get the vaccine. Listening to swivel eyed loony conspiracy theorists.

    1. Kdoc

      Exactly. Many eastern Europeans are reluctant to take the vaccine. If he is asthmatic he should have been first in the queue..

  2. scottser

    victor lindelof for man united had ‘breathing difficulties’ at the end of the match v norwich on saturday. following day, they announced a covid outbreak at the club, making their next match on tuesday against brentford highly doubtful.

    1. andrew

      Exactly.

      At a time when there’s a highly infectious virus in circulation that is know to above all else cause breathing difficulties, it takes some level of stupidity to suspect a seeming spike in cases of people suffering breathing difficulties is attributable to anything other than that.

      Yet they do it and in great numbers and with great assurance, cheering one another on and chastising the ‘fools’ unable to see their truth.

      It is a pandemic of idiocy more than anything – and unfortunately no vaccine for that.

      1. K. Cavan

        Covid doesn’t cause “breathing difficulties”, andrew. You’ve assumed that because the government have been giving you no details whatsoever about it, for Some Strange Reason, even after two years of this farce but it’s not an Obstructive disease.

  3. Micko

    “ not that news agency fact-checking can be expected to convince anybody who doesn’t want to be convinced.”

    March 2020 – Wuhan Lab leak theory = Total rubbish

    March 2021 – Wuhan Lab leak theory = Totally plausible.

    “Facts” change.

        1. Micko

          Andrew Croxford. Twitter – Jul 17th

          “What’s in an mRNA vaccine? Lipids & polyethylene glycol (widely used laxative and excipient). The rest are substances that can be found in milk products, soft drinks, fruits, or that disgusting stuff you use to make vodka jelly .… and of course some mRNA.”

          “We know these substances and their properties. We obliviously ingest them daily. PEG can be a problem, and anyone with history of allergy is informed pre-jab. This is also why you sit 15 minutes after vaccination, incidentally. They’re looking for anaphylaxis armed with EpiPens”

          Andrew on Broadsheet – Aug 5th

          “So, looking at #1 – what’s in the Pfizer vaccine? It’s mostly lipids and polyethylene glycol, which are widely used laxative and excipient). The rest are substances that can be found in milk products, soft drinks, fruits, or that disgusting stuff you use to make vodka jelly .… and of course some mRNA..”

          “We consumer them every day. It’s true that PEG can be a problem. This is why anyone with history of allergy is informed pre-jab. And it’s also why you’re asked to hang on for 15 minutes after vaccination. That HSE steward guy scrolling on his phone who looks utterly disinterested is actually equipped with EpiPens and is on the lookout for anaphylaxis.”

          https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/08/05/vaccines-for-young-teens/#comment-2337255

          Still feel smart andrew?

        1. Rosette of Sirius

          Broadsheet’s great unwashed has form when it comes to doxxing so it’s no surprise if so.
          Best advice is to stay utterly anonymous.

        2. Micko

          No, just plagiarism.

          I don’t believe for one second that he is that person.

          He’s just passing his words off as his own. Mods are free to delete if they don’t believe me.

          1. Johnny

            Micko did his …few push ups,couple pull ups,your all ready Micko,go champ go get ‘them’……zzzz.
            Says the grown man reporting live from outside school….just the facts.

          2. Micko

            Ah Johnny, You seemed so disappointed with my “anecdotes”, so I’d thought I’d give you something with facts.

            No pleasing some folk…

          3. Johnny

            …do you have a cheap robe with mIcKO stenciled on back,for your day as a keyboard warrior who switches at night to the ahem ‘entertainment industry’ ,go get them champ,you showed Andrew, Micko,good man !

            Links to his old posts-wow

            WOW

            …you accusing someone on here you of telling tall tales

            YOU

            Self aware much Micko ?

          4. Johnny

            …you’ve really taken to this commenting stuff,what did you do before ?
            I mean your like a whirlwind on here,all ready go this morning,links to other commenters posts from months ago,scores to settle huh……gotta get even.
            How serious are you taking this commenting,asking for a friend,I do it first thing for a laugh,with a spliff and coffee ?
            You ?

          5. Johnny

            For someone supposedly in the ‘entertainment industry’ your so stale out dated war on drugs trope is kinda cute,in a huh is he that uncool,ah bless…..
            In my industry the easiest way know someone in not actually in it it is to say….hey man is this a industry gig or event….it’s like a joke…no way …he said what…yeah he’s looking for some industry insiders….stop,tell him FO.
            Micko people in the entertainment industry’s smoke weed,even in Dublin,I know,I know….awful,terrible.

            Love the robe vibes….do you like have a gamers chair for the hours you spend all day as a keyboard warrior, commenting,filling and keeping records of ‘the enemies’ comments for handy reference,just in case,like do you have a ‘file’ on Andrew ?

          6. Micko

            I’m fine with drugs Johnny.

            I just don’t feel the need to let everyone know how “right on” I am coz I happen to enjoy them.

            I’m not fine with people having them in the morning and then driving though.

          7. Johnny

            You’ve constantly referenced your fears and fear over weed and driving,what’s that based on,this fear you have ?
            As regards talking about weed,every time I call our your unhinged bullying,your revert to I mean …cmon oul lad slags about drugs,it’s like so naff,tacky and uncool,it’s just haha I mean.. it’s just so so old fashioned man.

          8. Micko

            You brought up the spliffs Johnny.. not me

            Jeez.

            But back to your insistence that “everyone in the entertainment biz” does drugs.

            Yes, a lot of people do drugs, but no more than the general population. In fact with a lot of the younger artists, drugs are not their thing at all.

            But, if they do, they tend to do them after the show. Not before, … coz I dunno – they’re grown up professionals who have mortgages and families and stuff.

            No one wants a lighting rig to fall on their head in the middle of an guitar solo Johnny.

            No one wants to get electrocuted on stage coz of an earthing problem.

            Hell, even a graphic designer who keeps getting the dates on the posters wrong wouldn’t last too long.

            The idea of someone working in the entertainment industry that is constantly off their head IS the outdated concept.

            Spinal Tap stuff…

          9. johnny

            i dont remember asking,but as always thanks for shoving your opinion down my throat,less is really more here.

            how it started.

            “Hey andrew

            Long time no chat…”

            all that was missing was a few PAL PAL PAL

            how its going…oh some oul lad is now pivoting and boring me to tears,with yet another diatribe about himself….

            No one wants you BULLYING others Micko,its thats simple.

          10. Micko

            Well, mods are free to delete and ban me if they think I am bullying him.

            I was merely replying to his delightful post. ;)

      1. Broadbag

        Micko – that’s pretty low for someone who’s constantly telling people to ‘chill’ – seems you’re a wee bit obsessed with Andrew that you’ve held onto something since August, chill out man!

        1. Daisy Chainsaw

          Giggidy will be along to quote an article I linked to back in July. He does it practically every time I post these days.

        2. Micko

          “Anyone with any level of intelligence”
          “at the moronic level”
          “discern the rank stupidity”
          “Point-blank stupidity.”

          And that’s just andrew from this post..

          Fupp him.

          1. Papi

            Have you read your compatriot KCavans writings of late? Full of compliments and rays of laughing sunbeams, he is.

          2. Johnny

            But you were ready champ,a KO great stuff Micko.
            Links to Aug comments on hand,some weird link to a ‘Andrew’ on Twitter,just looney tunes stuff,a true armchair warrior,fighting for TRUTH and FACTS one hackneyed,hysterical,anecdote after another…..

          3. Micko

            “I do it first thing for a laugh,with a spliff and coffee ?”

            Late morning now Johnny. Been at it a while…eh?

            Good to know I’ve kept your attention. ;P

  4. Broadbag

    Vaccine or Covid? Unclear as yet, but as Micko says, facts ”change” to suit our own narratives:

    Back to Joshua Kimmich, German footballer who regrets not getting vaccinated:

    On why he did not get vaccinated, Kimmich told German channel ZDF: “It was difficult for me to deal with my fears and concerns, that’s why I was undecided for so long.”

    Kimmich said he is now “fine” but added he is not yet allowed to push his body to the limit “due to slight infiltration” on his lungs.

    After Kimmich told ZDF he now plans to get vaccinated, Germany’s education and research minister Bettina Stark-Watzinger said it was “a good decision”.

    1. Micko

      “ Vaccine or Covid? Unclear as yet”

      Absolutely, nothing should be off the table. Could be Covid, could be vax, could be something completely unrelated.

      And of course, speculative posts like this are not really a good idea.

      But, to completely dismiss a possibility outright just because it’s a political “hot potato” is just silly.

      1. andrew

        It might take a few goes but I would hope you might slowly begin to discern the rank stupidity in your comment by re-reading it – going forward, do so before posting.

        1. John Smith

          Micko’s comment is one of the most sensible I’ve seen from either side of the debate. I’m at a loss to find any stupidity in it at all and I do wonder what is the stupidity that you have detected, Andrew.

      2. Johnny

        …anything good happen outside school this morning,any new principal WhatsApp groups,are they ALL still furious?
        That’s what I’m here for the anecdotes from Micko -reporting facts from outside the school gates.

      3. ce

        “Absolutely, nothing should be off the table.” … feet, feet should not be on the table that’s just rude…

        Also, un-vaxx people – especially professional athletes – who get Covid and are getting sick seems to be off the table for many here…

        1. K. Cavan

          And people suffering reactions to the toxic fake vaccines, is that off the table, ce? It’s simply not happening, right? I mean, how could it, given that these drugs have been so carefully trialled & tested, right?

  5. Mr.T

    Facebook admitted in court filings last week that their “fact-checks” are nothing more than “protected opinions” – they do not stand behind the authenticity of the fact checks.

    1. andrew

      Sir, anyone with internet access could “fact check” this idiocy in less than 2 minutes. Anyone with any level of intelligence wouldn’t need to “fact check” these ridiculous assertions. Point-blank stupidity.

      1. K. Cavan

        Yes, we’re all capable of doing our own fact-checking, we actually know that andrew but when we refer to “fact-checking” these days we’re specifically referring to Social Media corporations censoring dissenting voices & pretending that’s it’s somehow related to facts. This routinely involves journalists with no medical or scientific qualifications censoring statements by scientists with PhDs in Virology, Immunology & Molecular Biology. Which I’m sure you reckon is perfectly normal behaviour, right? I mean, it’s not as if Facebook, etc started this Search for Truth just to ensure the Fake Pandemic Narrative wasn’t derailed by too many facts, right? The timing of this sudden desire to police everyone’s free speech is a complete coincidence, right? Course it is, definitely.

  6. Broadbag

    It was Aguero a few months back, twice Covid infected, heart problems from a young age, Sergio Aguero…but yeah, DA VAXXINES DID IT!!!

    1. K. Cavan

      He had Covid twice, did he? Obviously, any encounter with Sars02 can lead to infection, whether you’ve had it before or even if you’ve had one of the fake vaccines, everyone bar some of the more bewildered Covidiots understand this but to go on and develop Pneumonia, with the associated bacterial infections, twice, that’s unbelievable, unprecedented, amazing, fictional.

  7. George

    “Napoli later released a statement saying the 27-year-old, who contracted COVID-19 last year, was cleared after checks.”

        1. Johnny

          There is NOT one news story in states linking his death in Atlanta to COVID,this retired NFL player,not one,even the right wing lunatics here are staying away from that freak show,speculation on cause of death,just cause…..

          1. NotSpencerTunick

            So what are you saying is that mainstream media is in CAHOOTS with this global coverup, I agree. It is as clear as day,.

          2. Johnny

            It’s considered gauche or the height of bad taste,bodge knows better,his background is “news’ than to speculate on cause death,at this point it’s just no longer a news site,it’s just not….

    1. NotSpencerTunick

      WOW who would have expected a corporate entity owned by Aurelio De Laurentiis (LOOK HIM UP) and beholden to SILVIO BURLESCONI for its survival from bankruptcy to quickly release a NOTHING TO SEE HERE statement? It is almost unbelievable. Just almost.

    2. Broadbag

      George doling out the inconvenient truth. Immediately poo-poohed because it didn’t come from antivaxdotcom or some ropey twitter account. Also funny how people who ‘debunk’ mainstream media are delighted to re-post it if it suddenly and unexpectedly aligns with their own agenda.

  8. NotSpencerTunick

    Time surly for a root and branch enquiry into this situation leaving nothing unturned. We now need a global level investigation that is competent and INDEPENDENT of any government , state, agency, lobby, big farma, corporate greed, vested interest. Beholden and answerable to the PEOPLE only. Hell maybe these fascist powers are all required and maybe these therapys are the best thing since sliced bread. If so, then nobody should refuse an independent investigation NOW.

  9. ce

    “We now need a global level investigation that is competent and INDEPENDENT of any government , state, agency, lobby, big farma, corporate greed, vested interest. Beholden and answerable to the PEOPLE only. ”

    Agreed, the inquiry should happen in the Black Sheep in Coolock and should be conducted by the first random five people who walk through the door… unless of course one of them went to med school and dropped out… cause they’d still not be fully INDEPENDENT…

  10. tom2

    Finally somebody is getting to the bottom of this. For the past 18 months there have been thousands of people now taken to ICU with breathing difficulties but nobody willing to tell the truth. Many have even died.

      1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

        I’d say the lads selling the vaccine have the buttons pulled off themselves

        1. ce

          I’d say they’re torn/rubbed off themselves… lucky some of the Pfizer folks get a discount on the auld viagra too…

    1. John Smith

      @ Boe_Jiden

      I never ceased to be amazed by this idea that ‘science’ is something that can be identified and ‘put in a box’ as a single unique entity. The word ‘science’ originates from a word meaning ‘what is known’. The Cambridge dictionary defines science as : (knowledge from) the careful study of the structure and behaviour of the physical world, especially by watching, measuring, and doing experiments, and the development of theories to describe the results of these activities. This makes it clear that science is not something fixed nor is it in the ownership of any one person, group of persons or body of opinion. Science is continually developing and evidence from all sources feeds into the body of scientific knowledge.

      At the present time, evidence is being presented from a very wide range of sources – some of it is confilicting, some of it definitely goes against the narrative adopted by many Governments. However, all the evidence needs to be examined and considered. Certainly to say that ‘ the science’ ‘says the vaccines are safe’ is, at best, an over-simplification and, at worst, a total rejection, without consideration, of a great deal of the evidence available.

      There is no ‘end of story’ where science is concerned.

    2. K. Cavan

      Look at the facts, Boe, mRNA drugs are not vaccines, this is ably demonstrated by their toxicity, their ineffectiveness & the necessity of having one every 3 months for the rest of your life to even counter a Coronavirus, one of the most common but least harmful endemic human virus families. The fact that they’ve killed more people in a year than all inoculations have in 30 years demonstrates that they are a completely different category, they are a drug, not a vaccine & the deadliest drug in medical history at that.

  11. K. Cavan

    It’s hard not to assume that Covidiots are also having breathing difficulties themselves, with their heads buried so deeply in the sand, like the proverbial ostriches they mimic.

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Well then why is there such a tantrum by antis to clarify if someone has died with, from, of, or adjacent to Covid?

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