Jamaica? No, She Spoke On Her Own Accord

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Yesterday.

Washington DC, USA.

“For Jamaica, one of the issues that has been presented as an issue that is economic in the way its impact has been the pandemic. So to that end we are announcing today also that we will assist Jamaica in Covid recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica that have been essential to I believe what is necessary to strengthen not only the issue of public health but also the economy.”

US Vice President Kamala Harris during a meeting with the  Jamaican Prime Minister.

Um.

Anyone?

Meanwhile…

Yesterday.

Washington DC.

US President Joe Biden conducts a press conference while getting his second booster.

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90 thoughts on “Jamaica? No, She Spoke On Her Own Accord

  1. Nigel

    Hey, we made fun of the way Trump spoke for four years, only fair that Trump supporters get their revenge. Right Bodge?

    1. Micko

      Or we could just agree that they are ALL terrible and not pick sides.

      Biden, Trump, Harris, Obama – the whole lot of them, in all countries.

      I’m fact, just wanting to be the leader of a country should probably automatically exclude you from ever running. ;-)

      1. Nigel

        No, we couldn’t. I’ve pointed out before why the Republicans are actively, catastrophically worse than the Democrats. Shall we go over it again?

          1. Nigel

            The Republicans are banning abortion, attacking LGTBQ rights, banning books, denying climate change, denying the pandemic, stripping environmental protections, stripping consumer protections, stripping workers protections, claim that Trump won the election, actively placing obstacles in the way of voters, predominantly Democrat voters of colour. They’re weirdly pro-Putin and increasingly influenced by Qanon, with more than a few elected representatives repeating Qanon talking points, and also appearing at explicitly white nationalist events. Democrats… are not.

          2. SOQ

            Blocking the teaching of transgenderism to very young children is NOT attacking LGTBQ rights. Telling kids of that age that they can change gender is dangerous and irresponsible, and I don’t blame parents for being concerned.

            Teenage is fine but no sexuality, inducing homosexuality, should be taught at such an age- let them have their innocence- because they will be cynical of this world for long enough.

          3. Oro

            @soq I should have known you’d sympathize with and make excuses for the people that think this new law has any kind of rationale, and that it’s anything other than a terrible piece of anti-LGBT, anti-child, anti-free speech and anti-education piece of education.

            Nobody was ‘teaching transgendism to kids’. Rather the teacher or school was allowed to discuss the concept of a gay relationship as they would a straight one.

            And please, children are educated about straight relationships from the moment they enter this world, films, tv, advertising, the way straight relationships are pushed on toddlers “oh do you have a girlfriend at school” or the fact that children are separated by sex for education etc. it’s all very retro.

            You’re the pits, but I do think it comes from a place of total insecurity on your part which makes it depressing, but the way you lie so barefacedly about these things really is weird to me.

          4. Nigel

            ‘Blocking the teaching of transgenderism to very young children is NOT attacking LGTBQ rights.’

            Not what they’re doing. They’ve equated any mention of anyting LGBTQ related to predatory sexual grooming, and they’ve made it illegal for parents to be affirmative towards their trans children.

            Why the hell is a gay man equating homosexualtiy with cyncism and losss of innocence?

          5. johnny

            teaching about sexual orientation and gender identity isn’t part of any first-grade curriculum.
            talking about families is part of the curriculum, some of the students may have two moms or two dads.
            just don’t say gay is actually anti education,of course our resident bitter old crank supports it.

          6. Oro

            @M gay republicans are…..not looked on as the more sound-minded members of the LGBT community. If you want to look at how republicans treat their own LGBT, look at how Caitlyn Jenner faced transphobic abuse when she attended CPAC recently. There’s video you can look for yourself.

            Once in a while one of these rosy articles will appear, making it seem like they’ve changed, but the reality is they haven’t. They’re worse than the dems (that’s the other side for you) in their support and treatment of LGBT people by degrees of magnitude.

          7. Nigel

            Micko the question was whether they are different. If you prefer Republican policies, then say so, but can you acknowledge they are profoundly different and if not why not?

          8. Micko

            I don’t prefer either Republican or Democrats policies – I’m fairly indifferent to the whole thing tbh.

            I’m merely suggesting that the people who live in those Republican states, obviously prefer republican policies as that’s what the majority of them voted for.

          9. johnny

            …Bradley Bewkes is a District 1 member of the Stamford Board of Representatives, chair of the city Land Use Committee in Stanford,Connecticut.

            why did you google then cut and paste a piece from a local newspaper in Ct,by a no name recognition,representative to validate this ?

            …I’m merely suggesting that he people who live in those Republican states prefer republican policies as that’s what the majority of them voted for…

            last time a R won a presidential election in Ct was in 1988.

            desperate much.

          10. K.Cavan

            Which Republicans are you talking about, Nigel, from which country? If you’re seriously levelling those accusations at the GOP, you’re just embarrassing yourself by exposing your complete & utter ignorance of American politics.
            Although I suppose, at this stage, your reputation for incisive political commentary is non-existent, around these parts, anyway.
            Absolutely hilarious, you & Biden & Harris all deserve each other.

          11. Nigel

            ‘I’m merely suggesting’

            No, you were suggesting they were exactly the same, then as usual when it’s pointed out that they are wildly divergent, you shift the goalposts to this truism.

          12. Micko

            It’s only the opinion of a gay man who also happens to be a republican Johnny. I don’t think the state he resides in matters much.

            It’s only an opinion.

            On the “Republican states being happy with their choice of representatives”, I am of course referring to the states that currently have republican leaders.

          13. Nigel

            ‘If you’re seriously levelling those accusations at the GOP,’

            They’re not accusations, they’re GOP policy.

            The don’t say gay bill in Florida. Abortion bans in Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia and others. Anti-trans bill in Texas. Attempts to ban books in Kansas, Wichita, Tennessee and others. You want to dispute the rest? Good luck.

          14. Micko

            Nigel, they are all terrible on both sides – in that way they “are the same”. Money power hungry nuts the lot of them

            As for the issues you raised being “catastrophically worse” under republican policy – that is a matter of opinion, not fact and the majority of people living in those republican states obviously prefer those policies.

            That’s all.

          15. Nigel

            Yes, it is MY opinion that they are catastrophically worse – you apparently think neutrality on these issues is the safest course – what is not opinion is that they are vastly different.

            It’s funny how you have strong feelings for the abstraction of them being the same and money hungry but none at all on the actual policies that affect peoples’ lives.

          16. K.Cavan

            SOQ is talking about Sexuality, Nigel, not Homosexuality. You never fail to firmly grasp the wrong end of the stick & refuse to let go.
            I will allow you a pass on your homophobic assumptions about what SOQ “should” believe, that’s just ignorance, rather than malice, I assume.

          17. Micko

            “the actual policies that affect peoples’ lives.”

            But what if the people who live in those republican states are happy with how those policies affect their lives?

          18. Nigel

            Are you that reluctant to agree with me that
            a) the policies are completely different
            b) Republican policies are really bad?

          19. Nigel

            ‘SOQ is talking about Sexuality, Nigel, not Homosexuality.

            I’m talking about Republican bills to ban even mention of homosexuality in schools, and calling anyone who criticises them ‘groomers.’

            As for SOQ’s opinions, Micko linked to an incredibly whiny piece by a Republican gay man, he’s hardly alone in being a gay reactionary covering for homophobic policies in the Republican Party.

          20. Micko

            Are you that reluctant to agree with me that
            a) the policies are completely different

            Well I would expect them to be, how else would they differentiate from their competitors? But their ultimate goals, the accumulation of wealth and power are the exact same. That is fact.

            b) That’s subjective

            If I came from a different persuasion, religion, perhaps I’d think they were awesome.

          21. johnny

            your own words,which you then tried use google to try validate,Stanford,Ct is NOT republian,i should know as i just had breakfast in Litchfield,Ct-like duh.

            …I’m merely suggesting that he people who live in those Republican states prefer republican policies as that’s what the majority of them voted for…

            i would go out tonight but.

            Ah, a jumped-up pantry boy
            Who never knew his place

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg

          22. Nigel

            a) since those are he policies they actually enact they are actually quite significant and not to be dismissed.
            b) yes, you’re allowed to have subjective opinions. You know how you have a strong subjective opinion about both parties being the same? You can also have one on the policies that mark them as different.

            ‘If I came from a different persuasion, religion, perhaps I’d think they were awesome.’

            They’re not an undifferentiated mass. Otherwise Republicans wouldn’t have to work so hard to suppress the vote in Democrat areas.

          23. Nigel

            Gerrymandering, closing down polling stations in Democratic areas so people have to queue for hours and hours to vote (then making it illegal to give water to people queuing), prohibiting mail-in ballots, voter id, that sort of thing. A few years ago the Republicans were found guilty in court of racially-discriminatory voter supression.

          24. Nigel

            An area where people vote primarily for Democrats.

            No, it doesn;t, since voter fraud is miniscule, despite Republican claims to the contrary, and poor rural voters actually find such ids difficult to get hold of.

          25. Micko

            “ An area where people vote primarily for Democrats.”

            Gimme a for instance. Name an area

            Who has a hard time getting ID?

            Do you agree with voter ID here?

          26. Micko

            Thanks for that Nigel.

            Now just to look at the whole thing objectively, all those articles would be from predominantly left / democrats leaning sources yes? Could they be biased?

            Lots of people call out sources here all the time.

            “Oh the Guardian” and “oh GB News” – they’re not credible etc

            Could there not also be an argument to be made, that as the republicans say, that voter fraud IS a big deal and these measures are being brought in to stop that.

            Also, if they are removing polling stations from “democratic areas”. I don’t really see how everyone in an area can be for one side or another. A majority sure, that’s possible but then are they not hurting their own vote by discriminating against the minority number of republican voters they would have picked up? I’d imagine it’s maybe an 60/40 split but not an 80/20 etc

            Also, did that polling station law only come in last year in mid 2021 – how are the republicans get jn power in these states already before then?

            I don’t really expect you to spend your time answering all these questions, they’re kinda rhetorical but I really think that world view that one side is good and the other side is bad is not helpful for anyone.

      2. Verbatim

        Trump gave some very entertaining speeches.
        Obama had a good face and voice and great sense of timing.

        1. K.Cavan

          Obama is a scumbag, a lowlife, a murderous, psychopathic thug at the end of a string in the hands of Wall St. He’s actually running the show, still, in the US, I mean, you don’t think Joe Biden can actually function as a POTUS, do you?

          1. jonjoker

            Could you point out a US president who wasn’t a murderous psychopathic thug? On a good day, I think Carter might have fitted that bill, but even then I’m not sure.

          2. Micko

            “ Could you point out a US president who wasn’t a murderous psychopathic thug”

            My point exactly – can you explain it to Nigel above.

          3. Nigel

            But the people who voted for the murderous psychopaths are happy with them, aren’t they? Maybe if you came from the same persuasion, religion, you’d vote for them.

      3. E'Matty

        Well said Micko. Two cheeks of the same ass and both full of poo. It’s the illusion of choice. Same financial interests control both. The same agenda progresses under both. Nigel is the kind of binary thinking donkey who views the world through a Hollywood prism of “goodies” and “baddies” and then falls for the theatre of the punch and Judy show. In positions of high power, there are only baddies. Those in power globally all have far more in common with one another than with any of their own general populations.

        “I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favorable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way against holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it”. – Lord Acton (1834-1902).

        1. johnny

          How’s your famous imaginary seed bank coming along in your head,how you storing them,take your time.

        2. K.Cavan

          Nigel, I know you’ll find what E’Matty just said a tad difficult to comprehend but take it from me, it was incisive & astute.

        3. Nigel

          ‘Nigel is the kind of binary thinking’

          Denouncing binary while preaching mono. I laid out extensive substantive policy differences between the two. You don’t have to like either of them, but you can’t pretend they’re the same without ignoring those.

          1. K.Cavan

            Nigel, you interpreted voter ID as an attempt to block people from voting, simply because of your political biases. If you can’t open a bank account without ID, you shouldn’t be able to vote without it. The only people being blocked from voting by requiring ID are those who are not legally entitled to vote.
            The rest of your “substantive policy differences” are just as facile, more hysterical accusations rather than actual policy issues.
            On all the major geo-political issues, the two US parties are of one mind & always have been.
            You genuinely do see the world in a childish binary of good guys & bad guys, it’s the overarching approach you apply to every issue debated on here. What’s more, you generously assume yourself to be supporting the Good Guys, that’s the reason you’re opinionated, rather than informed.

          2. Nigel

            Ah yes if you ignore the ways in which they are completely different, they’re exactly the same.

            Of course it’s not just voter IDs, not a trivial issue in poor and negelcted areas of the US, it’s gerrymandering, closing voting centres in certain areas, sabotaging the Post Office and attacking the mail-in vote, criminalising giving water to voters standing in line for hours, all the while claiming voter fraud is rampant – but when rare cases of it are actually proven, it usually turns out to be Republicans – and threatening to overturn election results they don’t like.

            I don’t think I support the good guys, that’s your framing. I support the guys with progressive policies and oppose the reactionary anti-democratic guys.

    2. K.Cavan

      Ah, Nigel, you’re emotionally invested in Kamala Harris, how awful, you poor man. Then again, she rode her way to the job of AG of California, then got into the Senate, entered the race for the Democratic nominee for president in her home state & came fifth, was that last or second last? Then her genitals came to the fore again, along with her skin colour, earning her the job of Vice President, from dementia patient Joe Biden, so you shouldn’t have expected too much.
      Even given all this & the fact that the VP gets to deliver speeches & not much more, it must’ve been a shock to see that even this was beyond her. The problem is her arrogance, combined with her stupidity, I mean she could just read out the text of a pre-prepared speech but she keeps trying to ad-lib a few words here & there, she keeps trying & keeps failing.
      You have my sympathies or, in the vernacular, scarlet for ya.

      1. jonjoker

        That’s a bit unfair, K Cav.
        Most US presidential candidates choose a VP who is likely to attract votes from a constituency quite different to their own.
        If the Dumpster had done the same, he might have won a second round in the presidency, but he is too one-dimensional – and maybe his main constituency is too.

  2. Dinkum

    And of course it’s about drumming up support for a war in Europe.
    The other day experts spoke that African countries have not been supportive of a war ,then why should they .
    Especially when the west grabbed all the vaccine and left them at the back of the line and then ask for support in a European war between Ukraine and Russia while they open the borders and give refuge to white Catholic refugees ,while ignoring others ,from other wars the west started .

    1. Ellie Campbell

      You need to up your punctuation game, there are no spaces between commas or full stops in the English language.

          1. Micko

            I think it’s more the fact that she isn’t actually saying anything.

            She’s like Bart Simpson giving a book report.

          2. Nigel

            She’s saying that the US will provide assistance for pandemic recovery in terms of publuc health and the economy. It’s muddled, not incomprehensible.

          3. K.Cavan

            It’s not making fun of the way someone speaks, Nigel, it’s making a serious point about the inability of the Vice President of the most warlike, most powerful Empire in human history to place a few words in the right order.

      1. scottser

        ah now, at least david is trying to use them. a good start is half the job – keep it up kid.

      2. K.Cavan

        Ellie, we don’t engage in that sort of pettifogging, ’round these parts, unless there’s a point to be made, what’s your?

    2. K.Cavan

      Never mind the war, Dinkum, 17 African countries voted in the UN Assembly against sanctioning Russia. They have to keep on the right side of America, otherwise they might have Freedom & Democracy, US-style, inflicted on them but they know who their friends are.

    1. K.Cavan

      Wall Street, raging at the insanity of the sanctions, are actually making noises about having Biden impeached, possibly using evidence from the Hunter Biden laptop, which the US media is currently backtracking on, so it’s possible we’ve been watching a bumbling, incoherent incompetent, soon to become President of the US.
      Just think about it, President Harris!!!
      Finally, the first (& last) WOC to be POTUS, because the process of Balkanisation currently under way in the US would accelerate, bigly, if she got in.
      I suppose she’ll sound no worse than the current incumbent & Obama is still the de facto POTUS, anyway.

      1. Broadbag

        There have long been rumblings that she would ascend to power after the mid-terms, all politics aside I honestly believe Biden is several sandwiches short of a picnic, due to senility, which is sad and unfortunate but he shouldn’t be POTUS. Again let’s put all comparisons with Trump aside and say he’s just not up to it, mentally. Harris doesn’t seem to be doing much better, which leaves the US in an awful position.

        1. johnny

          by what metric ?
          NY is on fire,you cant get into most bars and restuarants,long lines outside.
          Try finding or buying a home,its crazier here than Dublin.
          Full employment everywhere,you can quit by lunchtime have another job by evening.
          By any metric its the best of times,everone is making bank in states at mo,if you not its a personal choice,but its celtic tiger boom times over here.

  3. NM

    We give you money, you not only owe us that money but you also owe us your allegiance.US policy all over the world.

  4. johnny

    ..well done Madison,just look at him doing a confession live,while appearing strung out himself or coming down from an eight ball,his coke and sex addicted colleagues in the aptly named Freedom Caucus,are now trying cancel him.

    why are the right wing junk and garbage news sites not covering his cry for help?

    FREEDOM.

    “The first-term conservative told the podcast “Warrior Poet Society” that he received invitations along the lines of “‘hey, we’re going to have kind of a sexual get-together at one of our homes, you should come’.” The 26-year-old described his response as: “‘What did you just ask me to come to?’ And then you realize they are asking you to come to an orgy.”

    Cawthorn suggested that such behavior was seen from lawmakers in their 60s and 70s. He also claimed to have seen other people who are “leading” efforts to eradicate drug addiction using cocaine in front of him.”

    why does the far right white trash media not cover these orgies ?

    are key bumps normal in the yeah baby,Freedom Caucus,is it like tied into the orgy after with the 60 and 70 years olds ?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/cawthorn-orgies-freedom-caucus-00021548

        1. johnny

          FREEDOM
          ..which part are you struggling now with Cavan,the reading bit ?

          “The sexual perversion that goes on in Washington … being kind of a young guy in Washington, where the average age is probably 60 or 70 – [you] look at all these people, a lot of them that I’ve looked up to through my life, I’ve always paid attention to politics. … Then all of a sudden you get invited – ‘We’re going to have a sexual get-together at one of our homes, you should come.’ … What did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they’re asking you to come to an orgy. … Some of the people leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country, and then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. And it’s like, this is wild.”

          i want some that FREEDOM

  5. Tumbelina

    His arm looks like that of a man in his 30s and his face looks like he’s wearing one of those masks you pull over your head. Everything about this lad is weirdness.com.

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