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  4. Boe_Jiden

    the only alternative is not taxing consumers for their carbon emissions, which would cause world-ending climate change, and no one wants that do they?

    1. paul

      or retain the same carbon tax and push generating renewable energy sources while sourcing new markets for non-renewables to bridge the gap as best we can. Govt. seem pretty happy to let prices soar so the tax take is higher, makes them look like they’re doing a better job while we get trounced.

    2. Zaccone

      The best alternative is to keep the carbon tax (and increase it) to force people to change their usage patterns. But use the revenue raised by this to issue a yearly carbon credit payment to every adult citizen. That way the heaviest users still pay more, but the lightest users would actually make a profit.

      The estimates I’ve seen for this so far would have it at approx €500 yearly each by 2030. Issuing that to everyone in January every year would minimise the damage to poorer households while still helping the country reduce emissions massively.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        I seem to remember that
        – we used to return bottles to breweries, milk depots etc. for disinfection and refilling. In other words, recycling. We used to get money back for returning bottles in many cases.
        – shops used to give brown paper bags not plastic bags. Some of those paper bags were recycled at home into book coverings, or paper for wrapping parcels.

        Feel free to add, but the top one should give an indication why the greenies shouldn’t be standing wagging their finger at people to ‘force’ them change their usage habits.
        The increase in carbon (hence the tax) is due to industry not stepping up to the plate. Have a look around you at home……glass jars, glass wine bottles, glass beer bottles…..all destined for the Rehab banks and the crushers.
        So why aren’t the greenies pushing for real recycling of glass bottles for instance? Eamon Ryan has no problems drinking water from one at his meetings, and then leaving it there to be dumped.

        1. scottser

          It’s a pet peeve of mine that you can’t buy a case of beer, return the case and bottles to be refilled and only pay for the beer, like in Germany or Holland. The same should apply to all beverages where you bring your own bottle, fill up from a dispenser in store and only pay for your drink.

  5. Dinkum

    Maybe everyone should be able to claim a proportion of their bill to be written off their tax bill each year just like the old mortgage relief .
    As it’s an essential cost of living then like the PUP that was introduced to shield people from the consequences of covid 19 ,they can do this as an emergency measure ,while this crises is happening.
    Considering China is locking down much of its industrial base due to covid 19 one would presume the need for fossil fuels from them a major culprit would be reduced and of course there should be a glut of oil and gas forcing prices down ,but no ,and of course no one is asking .
    For a start any more carbon taxes cannot be put on the peoples heads at this time.
    They allowed energy companies to put rises on everyone’s bills way in excess of the contractual prices agreed ,
    So if they allow that they can introduce this.
    After the last Green Party coalition that was booted out by the crash in 2008 onwards under John Gormley ,
    Sadly in days of strife we do not need another this time by Eamon Ryan who has not one grasp of reality of what happens when a massive recession is underway.
    What is needed is a government that looks after our people and one that stops price gouging.to say it’s not going on is just unbelievable.

  6. jonjoe

    “everyone should be able to claim a proportion of their bill to be written off their tax bill”

    That would be manipulated to make sure that it was available at the marginal rate of tax, meaning that the more you earned the more you got back – allowing you to be more wasteful.

    I was always amazed that transport costs are tax-deductible at the marginal rate, so that if you pay no tax, you pay the full cost of transport; if you earn a lowish wage, you get a 20-something percent reduction; but if earn a generous salary, you get a 40-plus percent off your ticket.

    Meaning that the poorer you are, the more public transport costs you. Absolutely mad altogether, isn’t it?

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