This morning.
Leinster House, Kildare Street, Dublin 2.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressing a joint sitting of the Oireachtas via video link.
He said:
“Please, I would like you to show more leadership in our anti-war coalition. I would like to ask you to convince EU partners to introduce more rigid sanctions against Russia to make sure the Russian war machine will stop.
“We have to put an end to trading with Russia. We have to cut ties of the Russian banks to the global system and cut the sources of their income from oil that they use for their weapons and killing,”
Earlier: Tour Stop
Meanwhile…
Strange times. Bríd Smith, Gino Kenny, Richard Boyd Barrett and Paul Murphy refuse to clap for Volodymyr Zelensky.
Meanwhile a bunch of FG and FF backbenchers applaud Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald’s call for the expulsion of the Russian Ambassador.https://t.co/IKF9wwUpjT
— Kevin Doyle (@KevDoyle_Indo) April 6, 2022
Meanwhile…
This morning.
Leinster House, Kildare Street, Dublin 2.
Those ‘stop’ balloons should do the business.
Theatre..
Zelenskyy should be on the stage- scrubbing it.
You two are just mad because he’s defending his country against a larger and more powerful military force.
As I remember when the UK annexed northern Ireland we did not see fighter jets from Ireland or artillery or even our army blowing the poo out of Northern Ireland and the death toll alone from the suppression of what’s like the unionist terror gangs or provos which are the Russian separatists to the tune of 25 thousand innocent civilians
So you must introduce this into the equation
Neither did the UK invade the republic
We did not see Irish politicians or government poking an unstable bastard and NATO joining in on the act or the USA supplying 600 million dollars of weapons just before a fragile ceasefire was suddenly breached by utilising these weapons
The rhetoric before a mad man who we all know is an utter bastard was hardly ideal
This war could of been avoided but now we all have to live with it now and his people are doing the dying and possibly the victims of war crimes
that’s some top level dribbling there, david.
+1 A whole barrel of wtf!? :)
This war could be stopped within a half hour with one simple statement from the drama queen- that Ukraine will commit to be neutral from both blocks.
That may mean pulling the UN in as peacekeeper’s in the interim, but it is entirely doable.
Anyways here is a singing parrot.
https://www.tiktok.com/@ticoandtheman/video/7082185366005894443
‘This war could of been avoided’
By Putin. But this is what he wanted.
‘This war could be stopped within a half hour with one simple statement from the drama queen’
Ah yes, appeasement of violent dictators always works, especially when they’re in the middle of a bloody invasion.
And what is to stop Zelenskyy declaring independence from the two blocks?
It’s going to happen one way or another because the alternative is a world war- so why not do it now?
Because one block has invaded him and the other block is helping him defend his country, for a start, so the idea of independence with some sort of guarantee of security is rather more complex than making a simple declaration. Also, there is no guarantee, or even likelihood, that such a declaration would lead to Putin ending hostilities, it definitely wouldn’t guarantee a withdrawal, it even runs the risk of emboldening him and prolonging the conflict if Putin believes Zelensky is wavering, also consider the article from Russian state-affiliated media quoted here recently which implies that Putin’s true aim is the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine, and wiping it from the map as an independant soveriegn state.
If it is a signed international treaty like in Northern Ireland, then all sides are bound to it. And if you doubt the power of such, just look at the knots that particular one tied Britain in while the tried to extract themselves from the EU.
Has anyone bothered to ask the Ukrainian people what they think ? Given their history, I am pretty sure a prospect of REAL independence and a peaceful future, would be a very popular move.
There has to be a compromise here- but I doubt it is going to happen while that Zelenskyy coke head is still around.
What, is Zelensy going to just whip out a treaty and Putin sign it?
‘just look at the knots that particular one tied Britain in while the tried to extract themselves from the EU. ‘
Britain isn’t quite the rogue state Russia is. Yet.
‘Has anyone bothered to ask the Ukrainian people what they think ?’
Maybe you should ask the Russian soldiers bearing the brunt of the resitance. They might have an idea.
‘REAL independence and a peaceful future, would be a very popular move.’
There is absolutely no way Putin would agree to that unless absolutely forced to by international pressure and military defeat, and even then, you simply couldn’t trust him.
‘while that Zelenskyy coke head is still around.’
No, not as long as he is mounting an unexpectedly effective resitance to Russian agression. No wonder thyey keep trying to kill him.
Everyday Potato lies everyday.
Niggle says:
“Britain isn’t quite the rogue state Russia is.”
Please sir – when was Britain not a rogue state? Or did all that red on the old atlas in my childhood home “just happen” by the will of god?
Russia was an empire too, you know.
The ‘Nigel’ account which comments on broadsheet.ie is what it is.
You do know that Russia was an empire as well, right?
It turns out if you accidenatlly add a letter to your username, your comment goes into moderation for aaaaages. FYI.
You’re Putin your finger on it there, Nigel, that’s exactly what’s going on. Actually, they’re terrified that if Zelensky moves on from just Cocaine abuse & switches to Crack, like Hunter Biden or Crack & Fentanyl, like St George of Floyd, blessed be his name, he’ll go on a rampage & single-handedly defend his people so hard, so very, very hard that the Russians get scared & drive home.
Replace him with Micheal Martin, receiver of donations from builders, or Vradkar, under criminal investigation for what in some countries would be classed as treason.
But yea, Zelensky.
I’m just worried that the lovely single woman with the sign reading “Stop, Put In” will be busted for soliciting.
Well now irelands is at the table of the UN Security Council it’s going to have to remove like any other on the security council Russia from it and also demand russias removal from the UN for with Russia able to veto any measures is a joke
Or it’s time the security council is disbanded for its unfit for purpose
And time to consider if the UN has any relevance today and if it should go the same way as the League of Nations after WW2
Scottser
Just think Ukraine has annexed area we have annexed area
I was simply saying that before this kicked off they had a very complicated situation similar in many ways to Ireland
Before the Soviet Union Ukraine never really existed it was part of the Russian empire
We were part of the British empire
But that could be said about the geo political situation in the world past history and after WW1 the map was redrawn after WW2 it was redrawn again and on the break up of the Soviet Union it was redrawn again and I assume after this conflict it will be redrawn again
Surly you agree on some of these points
I think you’ve got something there, Dinkum. It might be Omicron XE, plug-in hybrid, though. Best not take any chances. Cold showers & a shout of “up yours Putin” after each soaking. Perhaps Éamon Ryan’s plan to defeat the Soviet, eh, USSR, ah, the EU, ahh, Russia, might work, after all.
We won’t be laughing at his disturbing lack of smarts then, will we?
Maybe we should declare War on the UN, Dinkum? It would be a handy for the US, they wouldn’t have to invade or anything, they’re already there!
Boom, boom.
Go the bombs.
As someone said yesterday, you and your other name soq are either mentally unstable, or your just click bait. It’s okay for a foreign country to invade another and kill innocent people because it happened in the past? Grow up. How about I come around and invade your home, because other homes were invaded in the past? Would you find that acceptable?
We are a neutral nation and not part of the Zelensky war machine.
As such I now expect the great and the good in Lenister House to give equal time to the Russian propaganda machine.
Fair is fair.
ah gwan,say that with your English accent,say it LOUD.
Oh, johnny, you know, when you get angry, another side of you pops out. Pop it back in there, if you don’t mind.
He’s right though on this occasion,
What are the chances of that eh?
Whats a neutral nation mean?
Bet you’re the type of koont who would witness a mugging on the street and pretend you didnt see it.
Yeah, Kim, that’s right, probably if he saw a dispute between two bothers about who owned the family farm, since their poor father, now deceased, never got around to writing a will, he’d just do something terrible, too.
Are you the “have-a-go-hero” type, yourself? I’d say you are, I’d say you’ve tackled many a right gouger in your time, slit them up a treat.
Then your alarm clock summons you back to the real world.
Here’s a bit of private information, I have my alarm clock radio set to Radio na Gaeltachta, so I wake up, thinking I’m in some foreign country, before those Irish classes & the work of the dedicated teachers in my school bears fruit & I realise the language I’m hearing is Irish & I’m in Clownworld.
Maith an féar…
Pay more attention. There is no síneadh fada on the ‘e’ in fear, unless of course you’re raving and encouraging/congratulating grass or hay.
… and your username is missing “t-” in the middle.
Wots yer pint?
No it isn’t.
Away and read a history book or two.
Its completely morally reprehensible to claim to be neutral when one country has invaded another and is committing genocide in it.
“all sides are bad!!!!” – no, in this case one side is very much worse. The side that invaded their neighbour and is daily bombing, shooting and raping civilians – Russia.
So if Russia or China was meddling in Mexico in the same way as the US is in Ukraine- what do you think would happen?
….oh look who’s camped on the border,do try keep up,dharling.
https://abc7.com/ukraine-ukrainian-refugees-us-mexico-border-russia-invasion/11709983/
Mexico is a global hub for the growing and processing of illegal drugs, a multi-billion dollar trade. China and Russia are absolutely in some way or another already ‘meddling’ in Mexico., as are many other dodgy states. It’s literally ground zero for a decades long war – against drugs – that has cost thousands of lives and astonishing volumes of US taxpayer’s money.
If the US was dropping cluster bombs on civilians in Mexico, had 200,000 troops who marched over the border and were hogtying civilians before executing them, was bombing schools and hospitals, and had soldiers gang raping women they would be economically sanctioned by the rest of the world and justifiably so. And the EU, and Russia, and everyone else who could would be sending weapons to the Mexicans to defend themselves with.
Thats how most people, and countries, with a functioning moral compass operate – they try to help prevent warcrimes against civilians in any way they can.
Whiter it be by sanctions or open warfare, large countries bully smaller countries all the time.
Make no mistake, if what has happened in Ukraine happened in Mexico (in reverse), they wouldn’t even bother putting boots on the ground- the US would just level the place. They done it thousands of miles away without even the excuse of national security, so there are no good guys in this situation.
I just hope some real leadership steps up and reaches a compromise that both sides can live with- because the alternative is absolutely horrific.
Dominican Republic, Korea, Guatemala, Iran, Cuba, Vietnam, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Operation Gladio, Iraq I, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Iraq II, Afghanistan … The list is pretty endless.
John Stockwell, former CIA Station Chief in Angola in 1976, spent 13 years in the agency. He estimated in 1987 that over 6 million people had died in CIA covert actions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110618004036/http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm
Your grasp of logic is impeccable, Zaccone, assuming you wish to strangle it, which you obviously do. So, basically, what you’re saying is that whenever one country goes to war with another, everyone should pick sides, join in & have another World War? Bonzer!
Boys oh boys, the UN missed a trick when they didn’t pick you out, especially with that good Leaving Cert you got.
I don’t think you’d be great at the war stuff yourself, though, I think you got the shooting/raping thing in the wrong order, not to mention the bombing but let’s not split hairs, eh? Oh, of course, unless you’re into Necrophilia? If you are part of the LGBTQN community, I respect that, the blinkered thinking of the Anti-Necros is not for me, I’m very, very progressive. Shag all the dead people you like. Maybe even some you don’t like.
Can’t argue with that, all seems fair…No? Though what Ireland can do I don’t know seems like theatre on our behalf.
I don’t know about that, Gavin. We could send over Varadker, the droning noise he makes when he opens his mouth might convince the Russkies that an army (well, technically an air force) of drones was on its way to drop some cannisters of Omikron XR, plug-in hybrid down on their horned heads.
That would see them driving home, post haste & if they’d just take a moment to aim one of those Kinzhal missiles at Varadker before they go, we can let an attractive Ukrainian prostitute use his return ticket, which would bring Hunter Biden to our shores, like a rat up a drainpipe.
I haven’t worked out how to use that to our advantage, yet but I feel sure sure sure that that sh!teha#k Meehawl Meeeertin could rustle something up?
Ireland has 1,800 anti tank missiles and 100 Javelin Missiles, also some Gustav missiles.
These need to be sent to Ukraine immediately. Also stop unloading Russian oil at our Ports.
Also, expel the Russian ambassador and his staff of spies. Allow them to bring nothing out of the Embassy.
Ireland shall and always will be a neutral country. We should and are accepting war refugees and sending humanitarian aid but the Irish people would definitely not agree to give up our neutrality.
We are not neutral. We allow US troops to use Shannon as a defacto base.
I’m sure Zelensky likes that!
Give him more of it; more war is surely good?
Agreed. We need to take stronger diplomatic action. Burn down the Russian embassy. With hindsight, you can see a chronological logic between the Brit embassy being burned down in Dublin and the peace process. Seems a path worth exploring.
Alternatively, send Conor Lenihan to Moscow. Russia immediately capitulates.
Also, no more Imelda May for Putin if we reach DEFCON 1.
+1
bell, you’re another who the UN tragically overlooked, what a talent in the fields of geo-politics & starting wars you are. ‘Course, the UN do prefer not to start wars, which probably explains why the didn’t hire you.
Where do you reckon we should dump the bodies of all the elderly people who die of hypothermia, because of the oil shortage?
I’m also wondering what you reckon the Russian spies were up to here? Maybe looking for tips on how to destroy a country, from our government & civil service?
You’ve got bats in yer belfry, bell.
Could the war be also about the control of Ukraine’s natural resources? Also I read that last week that Ukraine had to make payments so that they did not default on their national debt. You think that those payments would be suspended?
There is big resources in the east of the country apparently- although I am not sure what- gas maybe? There is always ulterior motives in these sorts of situations, and it usually involves money.
The Eastern, Russian part of Ukraine has coal & steelworks & was a big supplier of aerospace parts back in the USSR (see what I did there?) to the degree that some cities there were Closed Cities, where foreigners were not allowed.
The rest of it is good farmland with a lot of good, mucky muck for growing wheat in. It’s a Big Country, with Fields of Fire, (whoops, word association football, again), so there’s some energy resources but not enough to justify a Ukrainian energy company paying the son of the US President to ride prostitutes & smoke crack or anything like that.
The poor Ukrainians are going to be paying off the loans they’re getting to run the war, for ever, basically. Still, at least most of that money is safe, resting in the accounts of various shyster Oligarch mates of Zelensky’s, in the UK, US & Germany. Little Z has quite a bit stashed away, himself.
I agree with some of the above comments – pure theatre designed to reinforce the groupthink and make it near impossible for dissenting voices to challenge this self-destructive course of action we’re on. The gall of it really – not content with the large numbers of refugees being taken in by Ireland, the financial aid and the sanctions already imposed – which have set the ball rolling for financial chaos at a time when the Irish economy is teetering on the brink – he’s now making demands for even greater sanctions. The reality of course is that he asking for even greater suffering and hardship to be imposed on ordinary Irish people and it’s the most vulnerable people in Irish society who get to take the brunt of it – not the kind of thing Zelensky seems too in touch with with his massive amounts of wealth stored in off-shore accounts.
Amazing how many anti-imperialiasts are horrified at this guy for defending his country against an imperialist invasion.
Why do you think so many brainwashed sheeple and politicos alike across the world are so easily taken in by an obvious carnival barker f_lawless?
To hazard a guess, I’d imagine on a political level there must varying degrees of awareness that the war in Ukraine is serving as a catalyst to bring about the new era of global capitalism as envisaged by the technocratic elite globalists. So in my view, what we’re witnessing is not merely a cocky politician who is punching above his weight and has somehow managed to coax an exclusive audience – complete with standing ovations – from a string of western governments which have hitherto shown relative indifference to the suffering of people caught up in war-torn regions It’s no secret that the Zelensky regime is closely aligned with, and has the full backing of the World Economic Forum.
https://truthtalk.uk/2022/wef-puppet-zelensky-pushes-europe-to-transition-to-green-energy/
I think in these highly volatile economic times, there’s a herd mentality phenomenon at play. The political establishment align themselves with those at the top of the economic hierarchy and aren’t going to stick their head out above the parapet even if it means abandoning the best interests of ordinary citizens.
At the same time, no doubt there’s also those politicians who aren’t much more than mindless conformists, caught up in the current groupthink and with little to no awareness of the wider agendas at play.
A seamless transition from fighting Covid to fighting the Russians.
You’d almost imagine that they planned it.
Particularly when you read articles from two, three, four years ago saying that Biden would be gungho for a war with Russia.
But they needed to get the mass formation out of the way first, and thanks to Covid escaping from a US-funded programme in Wuhan, here we are.
Dear God, another qanon idiot has piled onto this forum. Surely by your logic, the not really toxic virus was created under the Trump regime? So you’re hero Trump created Covid
You’re just so anoyed at this guy for defending his country.
Look at the lovely naive innocent people trusting the actor president.
I could poo a better President!
https://youtu.be/U9MX37aA6lM