What Can Your Country Do For WHO?

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Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly

Gulp.

Yesterday.

Independent TD Carol Nolan asks Minister for Health Stephen Donelly to confirm Ireland’s commitment to the World Health Organisation’s Pandemic Treaty

Once signed, the treaty will enable WHO’s constitution to bypass Bunreacht na hÉireann during a pandemic or other health emergency.

Previously: WHO’s Your Daddy

Meanwhile…

Ah now.

Meanwhile…

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54 thoughts on “What Can Your Country Do For WHO?

  1. Jonsmoke

    And how exactly would the WHO ‘impose lockdowns, testing regimes, enforce medical interventions’, etc.?

    To paraphrase Stalin….The WHO. How many divisions have they?

    1. Nigel

      I think it just means that in the event of another global pandemic countries are obliging themselves to follow the WHO’s instructions. I suppose the alternative is to not formulate as much of a unified global pandemic response as possible, which some people think is preferable?

      1. Mr. T

        Do you think the world would be in a better state if we all followed the WHO’s directives for covid?

        The WHO advised against masks, lockdowns, travel bans for the first few months remember
        They had a litany of bad decisions throughout.

        1. Nigel

          I think for the first few months they were still trying to work out what would be effective, and what would be necessary. Maybe they could have worked it out faster if there were better protocols in place for dealing with outbreaks. Whch this is presumably supposed to address.

      2. Gavin

        Yeah can see that, I think a collective approach makes sense, I certainly wouldn’t want to leave the approach to a serious pandemic in the hands of the Irish government alone

      3. Micko

        I see the gov are sharing the daily Covid death notification figures again. On the Covid Data hub

        Today – 13 deaths
        Yesterday – 16 deaths
        Tues – 19 deaths
        Mon – 21 deaths

        Pretty big numbers. Yet no lockdown or restrictions

        Hospitals have been crying out the past few months about being overrun.

        Yet no lockdown or restrictions.

        You’d have to ask why…

        1. Nigel

          Is it because the hysterical claims that the pandemic was a false flag to impose tyrannical emergency powers that would never be lifted was a complete crock of nonsense?

          1. Micko

            No.

            It’s because people don’t give two fupps about it anymore as they finally realised they’re personally not in danger and are distracted by the next flashy thing that come…. “Ooooh. Look Ukraine!!!” There’s a hot foreign fellah in a green T shirt n stuff being all manly (but not toxic manliness)

          2. Nigel

            I think people do still care about it, but it has become something close to ‘normal.’ I think you’re more guilty of getting distracted by shny things, the shiny thing in this case is attributing some deterministic quality to a major news story being current and high profile and treating it as an insight.

          3. Micko

            “ something close to ‘normal”

            No it’s exactly normal. Everything open, no restrictions.

            And almost 70 dead this week alone. Pretty much the exact same as last year when we were in lockdown for months and months.

            We’re all grannies killers and ratlickers now eh? ;p

          4. Chris

            Likely because all the deaths are among the vaccinated, proving the whole episode had nothing to do with public health. The figures (before they started hiding them) were showing 3X more likely to die if vaccinated.

          5. Nigel

            ‘No it’s exactly normal.’

            Lot of bereaved families. Lot of vulnerable people suddenly forgotten and ignored.

            ‘Pretty much the exact same as last year when we were in lockdown for months and months.’

            But had a deadlier variant.

            ‘Likely because all the deaths are among the vaccinated,’

            Only ‘likely’ in the sense that most people in ireland are vaccinated.

            ‘The figures (before they started hiding them) were showing 3X more likely to die if vaccinated.’

            No, they weren’t. Unvaccinated have always been disproportionately affected.

          6. Micko

            “ Lot of bereaved families. Lot of vulnerable people suddenly forgotten and ignored”

            Yeah. Normal

            That’s what I said

            “ But had a deadlier variant.”

            Did we though? Did we? How much “deadlier”

            Pretty sure COVID’s been killin the same people it’s always killed. The vulnerable. Same as now.

            And we don’t give a crap about em now. Coz we never did…

            So yup. Totally back to Normal ;p

          7. Nigel

            Normal for you, not for them.

            If you want to know hw much more deadly, go look it up. That might contradict your personal narrative, though.

            ‘Pretty sure COVID’s been killin the same people it’s always killed. ‘

            Everyone who dies of covid is by definition vulnerable to covid, I guess. You really think everyone thinks exactly the same way you do and are genuinely puzzled by anyone who thinks differently, arenlt you?

            ‘And we don’t give a crap about em now. Coz we never did…’

            Speak entirely for yourself.

      4. K. Cavan

        The WHO has announced several “Global Pandemics” since it fell under the control of malevolent psychopaths like Bill Gates & his fellow Big Pharma mass-murderers but no actual pandemics occurred, so it’s not possible to have another one.
        Rather than granting them this illigitimate power, we should be outlawing the WHO as a terrorist organisation. It’s morally & ethically bankrupt, since vested interests saved it from financial bankruptcy.
        The WHO needs a firing squad, not dictatorial power over citizens.

          1. Nigel

            No, knowledge is power. Authority is a writer scratching themselves, only without the ‘ch’. Author itchy.

    2. f_lawless

      The WHO is just one cog in the so called ‘Global Public-Private Partnership’ system of governance. There’s a handy diagram in this article setting out its structure.
      https://in-this-together.com/what-is-the-global-public-private-partnership/

      It’s euphemism really – it’s a mechanism for a small set of uber-wealthy elites to exert influence over sovereign nations and get the elected governments to enforce the global policies set out by those elites while bypassing democratic accountability. It’s been decades in the making – but if the current monetary system is phased out and replaced by central bank digital currencies, then that level of influence will go into overdrive, I imagine. Ordinary citizens would essentially have no agency – as in, little ability to organise and resist as they can be targetted on an individual level; their access to finance severely restricted or shut off if labelled a dissenter to the “greater good”. The Canadian government’s response to the trucker protest was a glimpse of this kind of targeted coercion in action.

        1. f_lawless

          Good man Nigel, the standard throwaway strawman comment we’ve come to expect. Another useless contribution

          1. Nigel

            I mean, you seriously think the pandemic is a part of a decades-long plot to get rid of money, I honsestly don’t know what to say to that other than we need global responses to global problems which is obviously not without its dangers, but spare me the lazy paranoia.

          2. jonjoker

            The problem with the WHO is that it is no longer publicly owned, but is beholden to a small number of billionaires.
            It is in essence a public-private partnership where the shots are called by the private side.
            They don’t have our welfare at heart – they have an agenda.

          3. f_lawless

            “I mean, you seriously think the pandemic is a part of a decades-long plot to get rid of money,”

            Why do you keep writing the same type of comment over and over? I”m starting to wonder is it some sort of compulsive disorder. You’ve said before that you comment here to try to “exert control” and seem to be driven to always get the last word in. A person who repeatedly looks to misrepresent the point of view that he/she doesn’t agree with, is not out for genuine engagement, that’s for sure.

          4. Mad

            @f_lawless
            It’s definitely some kind of inherent trait.
            He has been doing the same with pre-marital Clampers for years – the Eternal Waspfight of the Notquitethere Mind

          1. Nigel

            We don’t, if we put resources into pandemic preparedness, also climate change mitigations, but these require global responses, which make them globalist which makes them EVIL.

    3. f_lawless

      (2nd attempt posting with updated link)
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      The WHO is just one cog in the so called ‘Global Public-Private Partnership’ system of governance. There’s a handy diagram in this “In This Together” article setting out it’s structure:
      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=in+this+together+what+is+the+global+public+private+partnership&t=h_&ia=web

      It’s euphemism really – it’s a mechanism for a small set of uber-wealthy elites to exert influence over sovereign nations and get the elected governments to enforce the global policies set out by those elites while bypassing democratic accountability. Its been decades in the making – but if the current monetary system is phased out and replaced by central bank digital currencies, then that level of influence will go into overdrive, I imagine. Ordinary citizens would essentially have no agency – as in, little ability to organise and resist as they can be targetted on an individual level; their access to finance severely restricted or shut off if labelled a dissenter to the “greater good”. The Canadian government’s response to the trucker protest was a glimpse of this kind of targeted coercion in action.

    4. Dinkum

      I suppose it’s to replace the HSE
      As we get WHO to run our health department we can lay off the whole rotten HSE
      And frankly seen as the EU are making the decisions for us we have no need for government all we need is a telephone exchange where they ring up and tell paddy what to do
      It will save us billions

  2. John

    The government cant sign a treaty that bypasses the Irish constitution.
    Need a referendum for that.

    This has been pointed out to Bodger before but yet he still insists on putting this scaremongering nonsense in his post.

    1. Bodger

      John, they bypassed the constitution for the past two years. With an ’emergency’ it seems they can do what they like.

      1. Nigel

        Yes, you’ve been trying to push the idea that the emergency was fake, millions of dead and even more sick people to the contrary.

      2. Ian - oG

        Whoops, you ‘accidentally’ linked to a tweet to a …………………

        (Go on everyone else, take literally 30 seconds out of your day to look up Keean Bexte.)

        He fits the profile around here these days.

        LOL

      3. Dinkum

        Cast your mind back to 1999 when we signed up to peacekeeping with NATO
        Minister andrews in charge of defence stated Ireland will not ever join NATO as presume a full member today tomorrow or ever

      4. John

        What particular articles of the constitution were infringed?
        the government cant bypass the constitution. They can however exercise legislative powers they have under the constitution to create laws and such. The fact you don’t like them doesn’t make them unconstitutional.

        1. jonjoker

          Emergency legislation allows them to do pretty much whatever they want.
          Emergency legislation doesn’t bypass the the constitution, it supercedes or annuls the constitution while in place.
          So theoretically it doesn’t infringe the constitution, because the constitution allows for it; but the constitution isn’t in force under that legislation.

    2. K. Cavan

      Any law that clashes with the Globalist Agenda is simply ignored, John. There’s not even a pretence of observing Irish & EU laws on immigration, for example. The government just blithely ignores them.
      Welcome to The New Normal.

    1. jonjoker

      Like her or not, she’s a TD, just as elected as for instance Stephen Donnelly.
      His answer above doesn’t really address her question does it now?

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