British Home Secretary Amber Rudd at the Conservative Party Conference yesterday
The racist Home Secretary Rudd
Revived Enoch’s river of blood
With a plan for a list
That all should resist
As she drags Britain’s name through the mud.
John Moynes
Pic: Getty
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Pffft. Who cares? Jeremy Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party. That’s what people should be concentrating on. Whatever about a far right party taking over leadership of the country and openly talking about driving foreigners out of the country; the leader of the opposition has a beard, wears chord jackets, opposes austerity and neoliberalism and the media, which has been backing Teresa May’s far right party, says he’s unelectable. We should all be focusing on that. Also, even though I claim to oppose far right ideology, I’m going to speak respectfully and admiringly about Teresa May because she’s so much better than that awful Corbyn whose policies will actually be good for me and the country. Because identity politics is what it’s all about. Fupp facts!
Little Britain.
And pray tell me where dear Corbyn is at the moment? Fixing his front wheel, tending to his allotment , making gooseberry jam?
Obviously he’s at the Socks, Sandals and Berets Shop to buy a new outfit for the autumn meeting of the Trotsky Club. Certainly not doing any work anyway, that bearded lazy socialist.
Yep , too busy fighting his real enemies within the Labour party.
PS: . Some would say the lack of vanity is intself a form of pretension but … hey who cares about his image… it is his inability to do his homework that bothers me. The lack of attention to detail, the inability to question is what surprises me most about Corbyn. The Grand Leftie that just keeps on feeding Tory policy. Bravo.
“Yep , too busy fighting his real enemies within the Labour party.”
Right. “What shall we do about The Tories calling for public lists of foreigners to be published, Mr Watson?” “Never mind that, we can’t have a Trotskyite leading our party. Let’s leave the Tories get on with destroying the country, ousting Corbyn is more important.”
“Some would say the lack of vanity is intself a form of pretension”
Those people would delicate little flowers merely projecting their own insecurities.
You might not remember it Moyest, but there was a time when the leader of the british opposition wore stuff like that and was considered unelectable.
Guess what, he didn’t get elected and a certain prime minister went on to become the most infamous in the UKs history.
Good little lapdog.
Corbyn had appalling ratings in the polls, he comes across as arrogant and dismissive of concerns about anti-semitism in his party and he has no policies. And as always, he blames others when it clear idea what he is doing.
Labours response to an essentially fascist policy was to put out a statement saying the Tories hadn’t cut immigration enough. Wtf are they playing at? Oh that’s right, being politically pure. Well, they are losing middle ground voters, the 9 million who voted for them at the last election. Labour are a joke and the lib Dems are starting to hover up those middle votes. The lib Dems Ffs!!
“Corbyn had appalling ratings in the polls”
Didn’t the polls say Ed Milliband was going to be the next PM?
“and dismissive of concerns about anti-semitism in his party”
That’s because those “concerns” were almost certainly engineered and blown out of proportion. Otherwise, a much bigger deal would be made about ACTUAL RACIST Boris Johnson becoming foreign sec. But no. Because it was never about anti semitism. It was about getting Corbyn with *something*, *anything*.
“Wtf are they playing at? Oh that’s right, being politically pure.”
Aren’t they supposed to be losing members to UKIP? Wasn’t Corbyn kicked for not listening to the immigration concerns of the working class?
People have had it in for him since day 1 and have set up hurdle after hurdle for him to fall at. All the while, Teresa May has been working at shafting the country and setting up the most racist goverment possibly ever, safe in the knowledge that Labour idiots are too concerned with throwing a tantrum over an actual left winger leading the party to notice what she’s at.
Corbyn is rubbish. He is letting TM away with it repeatedly. Labour are fupped. We labour ‘idiots’ can see that thanks.
Concerns like Jackie walker? Ah right, all made up.
I always thought his vilification in the media was due to his stance on trident, the minute he stepped back from that the pressure eased
It was after he said we could just pretend to have warheads and trick everyone into thinking we had trident…. I mean really
“He is letting TM away with it repeatedly.”
You labour idiots got her in and allowed her to assemble her racist goverment unchecked because you were too annoyed an actual leftist took over the party and decided to.spend all your time fighting him *from day ONE* instead of acting like grown ups.
Did you read the bit where I said voted for him? So quick to try and get the first insult in eh? Just call me a red Tory and get it done with.
Yes, I did read that. “I voted for him so the baseless media engineered talking points I”m spewing out should be credible to you.” No, sorry. And you cslled yourself a Labour idiot. How embarassing for you.
All the disgruntled Labour mps who challenged him looked and sounded like Tories in disguise
Spoken like a true Corbyn supporter there moyest – insult labour voters and damn the consequences.
Jusayin – yup, some did. Though within that complete sh&%storm were MPs who were, and rightly, concerned about what a shift to the left in a country that is not socialist, means for them and for their constituents.
“Spoken like a true Corbyn supporter there moyest – insult labour voters and damn the consequences.”
You just called me a *true* Corbyn supporter and last week you encouraged someone from here to spend some time laughing at actual Corbyn supporters by reading some poems they wrote and published somewhere. (A rather petty and mean mindset exposed there imo) And here you are getting offended because I referred to Labour idiots. Do you have *any* self awareness?
“MPs who were, and rightly, concerned about what a shift to the left in a country that is not socialist, means for them and for their constituents.”
THERE ya go. All the talk about his leadership is bs.
Yes, I am aware I am laughing at you and at Corbyn supporters who wrote love haikus to JC. Because it’s hilarious and pathetic, well all you can do really is laugh while you wait for an effective political opposition.
It’s nice to know that my opinions are brain washing from the right wing MSM rather than my own opinions based on what I have seen though. Thanks.
“Yes, I am aware I am laughing at you and at Corbyn supporters”
Of course you are. Although I was talking about you actively encouraging someone else to laugh *at* people for their political opinions. That is the mind of a nasty little bully, imho.
“It’s nice to know that my opinions are brain washing from the right wing MSM rather than my own opinions based on what I have seen though. Thanks.”
You’re welcome. Perhaps you’ll remember how you feel when you wrote that next time you make out Corbyn’s supporters are members of a personality cult and didn’t come to their decision to back him critically.
That’s two posts in a row where you demonstrated the exact behaviour you were judging in others. Impressive.
No, you’re right. Haikus of love are normal expressions of political support. Not weird at all. And certaintly not funny.
I take it all back. Encouraging a stranger to go laugh at people for innocuous expressions of support for someone and sneer at and demean them on top is not at all the action of a desperate, manipulative bully.
Thanks moyest, I knew you’d see sense.
I saw it long ago; when you decided that a memorial thread for a recently deceased rugby player was an appropriate place to tell people how much you don’t like rugby. I knew straight away what a non selfish, non self centred and caring soul you are right there.
It’s sweet you wrote about me in your diary.
Moyest <3 Don 4eva
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
Head in sand stuff, Moyest.
I voted for Corbyn first time around and abstained last month. He’s doing a woeful job. And that’s not the Lamestream Media distorting things, his first year was actively incompetent. His unforced errors strengthened the case they base their bias on.
He’s been in the job one year. One. Already he’s had to be re-elected. He’s never been in showbiz politics before. The party *could* have helped him with some media training, for instance. They decided *at the beginning* *before he’d done anything* that he wasn’t up to it, so spent their time oustimg him instead of doing their actial jobs and representing the electorate.
Someone who has been in the job one year and already has to be re-elected and had his party turn his back on him doesn’t scream ‘leadership material’ regardless of their politics.
Corbyn famously doesn’t talk to the media so why would he bother take media training? Always someone else’s fault with him and his supporters (and I say that as a constituency labour member who voted for him first time round. Not again, he’s a joke)
Right, right. Definitely not *your* fault, eh?
Ironically Theresa May wants to bring in an extremist bill to tackle the far right nationalist groups, when they are already in her stable
Personally? No, since I voted for him and I’m not an MP.
You’re happy to spread and validate right wing talking points about him though. But it’s those silly supporters of his that are so irrational and emotional.
Your comments are irrational and emotional yes.
Awful.
Yes, it is awful that no one can every talk to you about anything without being called an idiot or a lapdog or whatever the insult of the day for you. But hey, I get a vote in the UK and Corbyn better work harder to earn it, Great Leader or not.
Jesus. What were you just saying about me being emotional? Plenty of people can and do talk to me without getting insulted. Get over yourself. I wasn’t even insulting you in this exchange but you took something personally so I ran with it. I’ve said it to you before; if you don’t like talking to me, don’t talk to me. It’s quite easy to do. But FYI, sneery comments like Great Leader make you a legitimate target. You are one of the more mean spirited types here.
Poor moyest, everyone always being mean after you insult them. Why can’t they just take your epic #bants?
Anyone?
Keep chirping like a canary and drawing straight lines, Moyest. The voting public will have the last word on Corbyn, not the armchair Che sitting in Daddy’s loft in Islington.
Tbf, Islington is one of the more deprived boroughs in London and Corbyn is a great MP. But clearly he is no leader except among his supporters.
He’s been in the job one year.
And this is his second Conservative Party Conference.
Wherein plans were laid out to deport foreign doctors, for firms to declare foreign workers, grammar schools were put forward as the solution to something, etc. etc.
And the Leader of the Opposition tweeted once a day, the same tweet, for the three days;
.@LabourFilmFest is coming to the North West for the 1st time. Find out about the great films they’re showing here →
So tell me again why he’s great at his job when no one is opposing this rightward lurch.
On every single metric he’s failing. He’s a non-entity in daily life, he’s only mentioned in conversation when Labour’s civil war is mentioned. This feels like a one party state already.
He’s a nice man, and believes in good things. But either he’s unable to be a leader, or he’s unwilling. And Britain doesn’t have time to figure it out.
Facebook and Twitter won’t win a UK FPTP election – ever.
Preaching to the converted is great, but fupp all of them live in Tory seats Labour needs to take in a UK FPTP system.
You could add millions of votes in already-safe Labour seats, and come out with less MPs.
Look how animated and active he was over summer – contrasted with how invisible he is this week and all last year. He ONLY gets anywhere when talking to already left-wing people he mostly agrees with.
PLEASE Moyest, tell me where he’s succeeding as Leader of the Opposition – where is the silver lining?
“And the Leader of the Opposition tweeted once a day, the same tweet, for the three days……..Facebook and Twitter won’t win a UK FPTP election – ever.
Preaching to the converted is great, ”
??
“PLEASE Moyest, tell me where he’s succeeding as Leader of the Opposition”
In the referendum that was supposed to be his death knell, he got the same percentage of votes from his party’s constituency as well respected leader Nicola Sturgeon got in hers. I’d say that’s a better yardstick than how animated he looks. I mean, John Major wouldn’t have lasted 7 years if that was the case.
He’s a proponent of digital campaigning as a means to power, he made a big policy speech on it a few weeks ago. He intends to use it to bypass mainstream media, which is folly as research shows twitter and Facebook are more or less echo chambers for the converted. My point being he was absent from the News at Ten, and absent on social media. So just absent. Not so Nicolas Sturgeon or Tim Farron.
And is that it? He was basically AWOL in that campaign. The Leader of the Opposition didn’t take part in one debate. His only contribution was to say he was 7/10 pro EU. Alan Johnson deserves the lions share of the credit for that.
He’s not lead the tories in the polls once outside the margin of error. Thats the only metric that matters if we want to avoid going back to the 80s. There’s no evidence he’s even made a dent in the colossal task of getting Labour back into government. The PLP are complicit, but I’ve seen nothing in his shambolic leadership to give me hope.
“He’s not lead the tories in the polls once outside the margin of error.”
Ed Milliband did, didn’t he? Is he a worse leader than that prefect? Or Gordon Brown? My posts were never about selling him to you. I’ve no interest in changing your mind. My point, as Don admitted earlier on this thread, was that he is too left wing for New Labour and they have spent his entire tenure, from the first week, trying to undermine him. They WANTED him to fail and focused their time and energy on making that happen. In the meantime the most racist goverment arguably since slavery has veen established. That has happened because they knew New Labour were too busy focused on their personal careers than the good of the country.
Corbyn’s problem, imo, was that he was too conciliatory. He knew he wasn’t wanted and tried to solve that problem by being inclusive. He wss stabbed in the back for it. Let’s see what happens with his new and stronger mandate. The shadow cabinet reshuffle suggests he has copped on and will stop giving a crap about placating the party’s right wing.
lapdog?
I’m not british, I don’t live in the UK. I’m never ever going to vote in any of their elections. His policies have no effect on me outside of the butterfly effect.
You’re the one that seems to care so much about politics that you have no input into.
You *blindly* back authority and establishment every single time and regurgitate their talking points. It’s obviously an emotional/identity thing for you. Lapdog.
No it’s not moyest, you just think it is. Like you think everyone who has a different opinion to you is bs. And I tend to believe political commentators with years of over someone who throws out idiot and lapdog rather than engaging in a form of valid discourse. Ta-ta.
“Like you think everyone who has a different opinion to you is bs.”
Nope. That line is just a defence mechanism. You can tell yourself criticism of your stance isn’t valid because it’s not really aimed at your stance and is instead an expression of something inherent in the person offering criticism. That way, you don’t have to defend your stance coherently. It’s old and dumb.
“Ta-ta”
See ya.
You didn’t criticise my stance. You said I was brain washed by the media lol.
I was dumb for expecting a logical greetings from you that isn’t accusations of bullying (ironic) and insults. Kinder, gentler, going to lose in 2020.
“You said I was brain washed by the media lol.”
No I didn’t.
“I was dumb for expecting a logical greetings from you that isn’t accusations of bullying”
Well you act like a mean spirited bully so…….
@ Rotided Am guessing Moyest drew straight lines as a kid.
Chord jackets eh? He ought to be strung up
UKIP’s final victory was to remake the Tories in their image.
Ugly, ugly future ahead for UK politics.
Like it or not, it is the issue that quite a lot of leave voted on. Cameron’s failed gamble opened this can of worms and is now it is impossible to close.
It’s what they do in the US surely?
I mean it depends if you want a opinion-takers or opinion makers as leaders.
A right-wing media in the pocket of a right-wing government has used immigration – which provides a massive net benefit to the UK economy – as a scapegoat, blaming rising living costs, exploding housing, poorer educational attainment on them. When fupping CLEARLY it’s the policies of a Chancellor who has spent the last six years with the stated goal of shrinking the state to the smallest size since the 1930’s.
“Like it or not” people are promulgating opinions that have been fed to them for years, and not a stitch of fact or statistics back it up. Any politician that acts on this prejudice is making the country poorer and meaner for personal gain and populist reasons.
*exploding housing COSTS. The building regs are actually still quite good, you get very few exploding houses.
I dunno, you do hear stories of houses exploding in the UK surprisingly regularly…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36988316
I feel like you have the right of it. The UK has had this bubbling under the surface of society for the past few years. It was only a matter of time before it bagan manifesting itself in politics. What’s scary is how quick it’s been.
good god. let’s see how her precious british universities fair with less than 100,000 foreign students paying high fees.
I can’t believe they are getting rid of foreign students. In Australia, education aka foreign students are one of the biggest exports.
Also, public polls show the public didn’t mind students, they see them as beneficial. So it’s not even evidence based policy, it’s knee jerk racism.
Germany 1930’s
Uganda 1970’s
Rwanda 1990’s
Britain 2010’s
Nasty nasty nasty. What is happening to our neighbors? I think I’d prefer to have the Shinners rather than ukip.
I made the mistake of reading the comments under the Express’ article. That was a stupid thing to do. What horrible people! How can they even think like that? God, I’m depressed now.
Thanks for this specific advice I was basically researching all Msn in order to uncover it!