75 thoughts on “On The Force Days Of Christmas

  1. bisted

    …talking about storm troopers…I see an army has gathered to launch a personal attack on Preposterous over on Twitter…upping the 140 char limit was a big mistake…did you not buy your round in the Gravediggers John?

      1. bisted

        …about Broadsheet being controlled by ‘vile trolls’ and John Ryan encouraging them…can’t think who they have in mind…

          1. Brother Barnabas

            Jaysus. Don’t see it like that, to be honest.

            I like Tony Groves and I like his columns – and especially respected that he engaged and defended himself etc in the comment section. But don’t agree with his criticisms – and, not wanting to sound like my da, I’m a bit disappointed in him.

          2. Harry Molloy

            Myself and Tony wouldn’t agree on much, but if someone emailed his employer then that person was a scumbag. I’d be having a strong reaction too if someone did that to me, and it’s the main reason I don’t share my identity online; there’s malicious dirtbags out there who’d be willing to wreck your life because you have an opinion which differs to theirs.

            That said, I don’t agree with Tony’s criticism of Broadsheet here. Their editorial policy is transparent and unless they disseminate defamatory material then there’s little to have a problem with if you made an informed decision to publish there. There’s strong arguments for and against such a model but broadsheet have made their choice and have been shown to have the courage of their conviction here.

          3. Brother Barnabas

            Oh okay… I didn’t see the bit about someone emailing his employer.
            That’s nasty. But what does it have to do with Broadsheet?

          4. Bertie Blenkinsop

            Yeah I like Tony and I admire the fact that he usually gives as good as he gets so this has all taken a strange turn, from the outside looking in.

          5. Yep

            So Tony believes the “Trolls” work in accordance with BS? Rather than being just random goons who are not moderated?

            How would one know the former to be true?

          6. Nigel

            Why the hell are Tony Groves and Izzy Kamikaze – was she a contributor here? – attacking Sibling Of Daedelus, of all people? FFS.

          7. Brother Barnabas

            I think this is delayed fallout from the big unfortunate (for everyone) fallout several months ago.

            I do recall Sibling and Frilly being pretty hard on those contributors who decided to leave the site at that time, which included Izzy.

            Not sure what sparked it off now.

            Izzy made a comment on Twitter earlier that was IMO very unfair and I would imagine hurtful to BS.

          8. Brother Barnabas

            If you read back a bit – earlier comments etc – I don’t think Tony was actually referring to Sibling. She assumed that herself. It looks to me like it’s de’udder one.

          9. Nigel

            I’m not sure what you’re talking about, which at least means I haven’t been spending as much time on Broadsheet as I sometimes worry I do.

          10. Brother Barnabas


            I was being intentionally vague… it’s one of those things that I think nobody wants to go over again.

          11. Harry Molloy

            you always see that crap on twitter, people confusing someone they don’t know posting one liners as something important and worth getting worked up over

          12. Nigel

            Salmon’s gone to try and draw a baguette from a giant potato so he can declare himself King Of The Brexit and lead the Knights Of the Round Firing Squad.

  2. Brother Barnabas

    The fella who sent in the Star Wars/Christmas tree photo will log on and see 28 comments and think, “oh, not bad… I’ll get a cup of tea for this… oh you sillies”.

  3. Candy Crush Guru

    This Twitter carousel is ridiculous.
    Do these people not have jobs or lives away from social Media? It is like they are talking to themselves. Answering each other, liking each other, retweeting each other. From my observation they do not appear to have any engagement outside each other.

    One of those accounts has over 160,000 tweets. Unless you are Donald Trump that cannot be considered normal for a single user entity based in Ireland.
    Can it?

      1. Candy Crush Guru

        Well that is a pity, because Martin McMahon, despite a rather indulgent Twitter profile “Whistleblower Extraordinaire”, I hope I have that right incidentally, was really interesting and relevant on the Broadsheet Telly Show he did.

        1. bisted

          …a pity indeed…I listened to a few of the early podcasts and they were really thought provoking and entertaining.

  4. Woof Woof Frilly Keane

    Ah here
    Ye mangled this thread

    I wanted ta’ have a moan about Princess Leia not getting the top spot on the tree

    FFS, still talking about stuff from 6 months ago
    you’d swear nathin’ else was going on
    or there was no other news here

    ara’ take it off to twitter where these people live and lay’ve this gaff
    and me btw
    out’ve it

    c’mon tis De’ Toy Show tomorrow lads
    and not a doggie in his Christmas Clothes
    or a gaff that looks like the Woodies Naas Road ta’ be seen around the place

    Cop on t’yerselves

    1. Nigel

      On the first day of Christmas my padawan sent to me
      Anakin in a lava pit.
      On the second say of Christmas my padawan sent to me
      Not the droids you’re looking for
      And Anakin in a lava pit
      On the third day of Christmas my padawan sent to me
      Three Star Wars trilogies
      Not the droids you’re looking for
      And Anakin in a lava pit.
      On the fourth day of Christmas my padawan sent to me
      Four cartoon spin-offs

  5. Kieran Nice Young Chap

    Hey everybody. A friend pointed me back in the direction of Broadsheet today.

    I think that Broadsheet’s comments section has become dominated by hateful, bitter, toxic posters such as Moyest, Memes, dav, jusayin, etc and whatever other handles they’re allowed to jump around to in order to abuse people or bolster their troll persona. It’s definitely escalated beyond disagreements to pure vitriol and fights. StephPinker, I think it was, pointed this out ages ago.

    All of this is facilitated by John/Bodger, who now posts consistently negative, conspiracy-laden articles designed to whip commenters into a perpetual frenzy and rage, either for clicks or to mirror his own dark and resentful political worldview. Wasn’t always like that. Now it’s like the Two Minutes of Hate from 1984, but “every 15 minutes”.

    All this has gotten much worse over the last few years, and why I left. I can’t speak for why Cluster, Mani, Pedanto, and many other long-standing posters left, but we know why Hoop did. That’s before we even get to the Dara Quigley debacle, which is why Mick Flavin and others left.

    All my best to Milly, Bertie, rotide, Clamps (#Pray4Clamps), Jake, Brother, Harry, Nigel and all the other rational, kind people who kept me on Broadsheet for so long. Take care of yourselves and a happy Christmas!

    So long, and thanks for Cabra West and Anne Doyle’s back garden. We’ll always have things that look like Ireland.

    1. bertie blenkinsop

      Wow, lovely to hear from you Kieran and just in time for Christmas too.

      I hope you’re keeping well and although I fully understand why you left, it’s still a shame you have.

      Sending best wishes across the Atlantic pal :)

      1. italia'90

        I always love a post when Dav has written “blushirts” in it. I sometimes forget where that shower came from and what they would like to do to the less fortunate in our society. However, they aren’t quite as bad as the other shower of ffork hunts. Those animals are the type of scum that would eat their own!
        No kidding ya. I have witnessed many FFG presidential dinners over the years and the savage behaviour of the FF attendees is something to behold.

    2. mildred st. meadowlark


      Ahem, in other news. You’ve been missed, my dear.

    3. Warden of the Snort

      Kieran you’re a bit of a sanctimonious git aren’t ya?

      I backed you incidentally in the disgraceful treatment you received from badatmemes and campaigned for his departure long before anything was actually done about it, I mean you’re right in that you seem at face value like a decent lad who didn’t deserve the abuse etc,.

      But then to tar a number of those other posters you mention above with the same brush, is desperately unfair, reductive and one-dimensional, indeed it reeks of you trying to settle scores with anyone you’ve had a disagreement with here, and also of trying to police the board into an echo-chamber that only those with whom you agree or who express themselves in a manner expressly subject to your exact specification should be allowed to have their say.

        1. Warden of the Snort

          The people above are right about dav in particular. Little Kieran is only having a go at him because he’s on the other side of the political spectrum.

      1. Frilly Keane

        Jesus t’night
        Snort of the Wards
        Who are you to be cribbing about lads settling scores
        You’ve more hats than Mrs Windsor FFS
        Sur how was KNYC ta’know you backed him v Memes

        1. Warden of the Snort

          The point was, Lady Fillsalot, that Right Honorable Young Chap from County Cork is a waffler who was constantly full of himself, and now he has the actual audacity to come on here lamenting about other people being trolls and whatnot, when he actively lumps in a whole bunch of people who manifestly are not trolls, because of what they represent to him, i.e. someone with an opposing viewpoint. For the record you also displayed a similarly appalling lack of judgement in your treatment of Bertie for a time though I do realise you have had the good sense (finally) to tone down the bullying now.

          The vast majority of us are able to discern who the ‘real’ people are and we don’t need a Kieran or a Foolish but Keen poster either for that matter to regulate or police the content.

          1. bertie blenkinsop

            Warden, I’d rather you leave me out of this and leave the past in the past.
            Happy Christmas to one and all.

          2. gritty git

            Warden giving Frilly a run in her cack -handed yerrah beggorah begorrah approach to the English language. Go back to school , snortsalot and learn how to string a sentence together.

          3. Frilly Keane

            Well Ward
            Tis a sad state of affairs when Bertie needs the likes a’ you ta’ stand up for him

          4. Bertie Blenkinsop

            I’m perfectly capable of standing up for myself but I’ve no intention of dragging up old arguments that ultimately nobody wins.
            Happy Christmas.

          5. Killian G

            in all fairness, Frilly Keane, If I remember right, Bertie stood up very well for himself. It was strange however that you decided to actively involve yourself. You did that again when there was an argument between Brother Barnabyus and badatmemes but again he stood up well for himself. I noticed too that you yourself were on the receiving end of badatmemes’ abuse last thursday in the chat pit. ANd it was pretty nasty.

          6. Frilly Keane

            Well Mr G
            I’ve taken on that much abuse
            Far in access of any of the other Broadsheet Authors
            In the last two years
            That I’ve learned to swim thru it all without crying to Mods,
            Or resorting to calling the Broadsheet Contributors the rhymes with Toll word

            It’s all in a day’s work for any active, and sustainable, Bloggard
            IMO anyway

            BTW if you think what went on in the ChatPit was bad, I’ve a string of emails since that would give some of ye here a stroke

          7. Frilly Keane

            Oh, by the way;
            Since we might as well dump all the recent bollockology inta this thread and have done wi’ it

            I’ve never used twitter to whinge about ye either
            Or use it to lay siege on anyone

  6. Shayna

    If I may, could I add my tuppence? Intellectually, morally, religiously, sexually-oriented/identifiable/fluid, geographically located/ politically inclined – BS cover this. Commenters, myself, included tend to react to a post in different ways.
    Also, I came here to praise BS, not to bury BS (Not in a Shakespearean way, rather literal).
    I’ve known “Preposterous” for 30ish years, I can only commend him for what he’s achieved.
    Commenters occasionally become overly-enthused, sure, it’s within the nature of humans, after all. People fall out, and fall in, just as Kieran NYC, I think he was testing the water for a re-union with BS?
    I know, I do go on a bit about Tyrone GAA, but that’s kinda who I am. Comments, from time time, aren’t always, necessarily kind to me. But, I keep coming back to BS, nonetheless. I think that the core of commenters is kind.
    If this happens to be my last comment before xmas, “Merry xmas previous and present commenters/contributors/authors”.

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